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1995 fut l'année des Smashing Pumpkins - entre autres, bien sûr, mais bon, là, y a pas à dire, ce fut aussi leur année. Rarement un groupe aura été aussi prolifique en si peu de temps. Comme s'ils avaient été propulsés trente ans en arrière, quand les sorties d'albums avaient lieu tous les six mois, les Citrouilles furent pris d'une logorrhée créatrice que rien ne semblait endiguer : un double album de 28 titres et cinq maxis comportant au total 28 titres inédits. Soit 56 morceaux. Et je dois en oublier. Et je dois ignorer les nombreuses digressions qu'ils ont du effectuer en concert ou en répète. Ils avaient tellement de titres que le concert aux Eurockéennes de Belfort qui suivit ne comportait, à l'exception de Bullet With Butterfly Wings, que des faces B. Et la plupart issues de ce coffret.

Parce qu'on le sent bien dans leur Pastichio Medley, le titre de 23 minutes qui compile une cinquantaine de riffs enregistrés de-ci de-là, en sessions d'enregistrements et en répétitions, que les Smashing forment un groupe qui s'amuse. Même si Billy Corgan mène son monde à la baguette, ça n'hésite pas à balancer ou à s'auto-hypnotiser, et encore, il manque les pauses-reprises de Van Halen, les changements d'instruments et de rôles, les choeurs rigolards.

Un double album, donc, en sortit, fatalement bouffi de partout : rien que l'idée de faire un double est gonflée, casse-gueule, prétentieuse. Et pourtant, Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness restera le plus abouti, le plus fou, le plus varié, le plus intense, le plus expérimental et le plus brillant de leurs albums.
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Réédition du mythique coffret de maxi de l'ère MCIS, le contenu de cette Box est pour le moins conséquent: plus de 7 heures de musiques réunies sur 6cd et un dvd (concert en France s'il vous plait!!) voilà un programme réjouissant qui permet de se replonger dans l'époque dorée du rock dominée entre autre par les Pumpkins alors à leur apogée.
Alors, certes, je suis loin d'être objectif car je fais partie des Fans qui crient au génie dès que Billy ouvre la bouche (mais au moins j'en suis conscient) mais il faut avouer que ce coffret est un pur bonheur pour moi qui suis passé à côté de la Boxset originale avec laquelle certains amphibiens me narguent toujours.
Les Pumpkins sont parmi les seuls à proposer des faces B qui auraient largement pu être sur un album en terme de qualité, ce ne sont en aucun cas des titres au rabais, ajoutez à cela une montagne de démos et des lives quasi introuvables auparavant pour parfaire ce bel objet .
2 regrets cependant:
-pourquoi ne pas avoir mis le live au Dooble Door en entier (bon, je sais il y a 3 concerts en tout)?
-le prix qui fera grincer des dents et videra le porte monnaie (mais qui reste quand même raisonnable aux vues du contenu et comparé à la réédition de MCIS)

A acheter d'urgence que l'on soit fan ou pour trouver l'occasion de découvrir ou redécouvrir cet univers spécialement riche.
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Pour tout les fans des pumpkins, n'hésitez pas.Et même pour le novice. Permet de (re)découvrir la richesse exceptionnelle de ce groupe sous estimé.
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HASH(0x90e515d0) étoiles sur 5 Wonderful companion to one of the decade's best albums... 1 janvier 2000
Par Joseph Askins - Publié sur Amazon.com
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The Smashing Pumpkins have always been known for their amazing catalogue of non-album songs. Some of their best tracks are hidden amongst various singles and compilations. Still, only the most devoted of fans run out to buy every European import and obscure tribute album, and SP realizes this. Released during what was undoubtably the peak of their success, "TAFH" was the band's second "odds and sods" compilation (check out "Pisces Iscariot" for some wonderful "Gish"- and "Siamese Dream"-era b-sides and outtakes). It compiles the five "Mellon Collie" singles, containing a total of 28 b-sides (mirroring the 28 tracks on "MCIS") and five exclusive new-wave covers.
As to be expected with any b-sides collection, there are ups and downs throughout the box set. The hidden treasures are there, though--I've always believed that the "1979" single is ohe band's best releases, proving that SP has power-pop down to an art. The single also contains one of the greatest Pumpkins songs around, "Set the Ray to Jerry," a track that was at one time slated to appear on "Siamese Dream."
So...excessive? You bet. That's always been the name of the Pumpkins' game, and they pull it off masterfully. "TAFH" is a must-have for any music fan, and sits beside "Mellon Collie" as one of the great rock releases of the latter 1990s.
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HASH(0x910c0470) étoiles sur 5 Amongst all the wreckage, there's a first rate Smashing Pumpkins sequel to Mellon Collie 31 octobre 2007
Par Mike London - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Unlike Nirvana and Pearl Jam, The Smashing Pumpkins never had all the angst about success that the aforementioned bands had. Sure, they had angst. It was the mid 1990s and it was grunge. Most bands had angst. But Billy was smart enough to market it. For Billy, he wanted to be a rock star, and that's what he got to be.

And not only that, he was the most prolific songwriter of the whole grunge movement. I have assembled my own Pumpkins' B-Side/Rarities CD-R collection, which is a full five 80 minute cds, comprised entirely of material that was released officially but never released on their six studio albums. This box set is a testament to his prolific writing. What's also a testament to Corgan is just how GOOD all these B-sides are. He's kinda like Dylan in that Corgan's outtakes, at least in this period, is just phenomenal.

For their third album, MELLON COLLIE AND THE INFINITE SADNESS, the band turned in one of the most ambitious (and some say indulgent) albums rock ever saw. It was a double album with a two hour running time (long even for a double album), and Corgan and Company did everything from folk, dreamy pop, jazz, heavy medal, hard rock, and new wave. Listening to Corgan was somewhat akin to listening to an amalgamation of David Bowie, Husker Du, and a good number of 1970s rock bands. For my money, MELLON COLLIE is a flat-out masterpiece, easily the best album the band ever did, and on par with Soundgarden's BADMOTERFINGER, Alice in Chains' DIRT, Pearl Jam's TEN, Mudhoney's, and even the critical darling Nirvana's NEVERMIND. In my view, MELLON COLLIE really is my generation's version of Pink Floyd's THE WALL. It's that good.

But here's the amazing thing. After the band released the double album in 1995, they released this box set just a little over a year from MELLON COLLIE. As good as MELLON COLLIE is, and even given its rather abnormal length, listening to this sounds like the band actually cut quite a bit of incredibly entertaining material here. In fact, they could have followed MELLON COLLIE up with a new album in 1996 or 1997, and it would have been just as big a hit as their magnum opus.

But the band didn't do that. You see, Corgan, kinda like Ryan Adams (though that comparison may be a bit unfair to Corgan), is very much about the rock star image, and AEROPLANE FLIES HIGH is designed just as much for the retro throwback to 1960s and 1970s record releases and that era's rock culture as it is to release new material.

Rather than assembling a second album (or, as I like to think of this box set, a third disc to MELLON COLLIE), Billy supplemented each of the five singles drawn from MC with 4 to 6 new songs, gave each disc its own kind of mini-album continuity, and released it in a rather cumbersome box set. All told, there's about one hundred and forty minutes of music here, longer than the original album, which is already something of a monstrosity when it comes to length.

Each disc follows its own flow.

Disc 1, the "Bullet with Butterfly" single, has the lead track, a great mellow acoustic number sung by James Iha and D'arcy and then several covers.

Disc 2, the 1979 single, is the rock/pop EP, and has some of the best songs on the entire set.

Disc 3, the "Zero" single, is the more hard rock and metal EP. The single has the only really bad song here, the twenty three minute "Pasticho Medley". Esentially, the song (if you can call it that) is a bunch of roughly edited snippits of all these unfinished songs and recordings the band made during the album sessions. In fact, the medley is rather jarring to listen too, as it feels like Corgan was going to make an epic instrumental of all his unreleased songs, but rather than write interconnecting instrumental parts and transitions, all this music just butts up against each other. I've listened to AEROPLANE for a long time, and I only made it thru "Medley" once. Trust me, life's to short to listen to it any more than that, and even once is questionable.

Disc 4, the "Tonight, Tonight" single, focuses more on the ballad, dreamy pop sound, and has one of their all-time definitive songs ("Rotten Apples").

Disc 5, the "Thirty Three" single, is the most wide ranging in sound, featuring winding guitar epics to rather experimental cover choices.

Now, lets look at THE AEROPLANE FLIES HIGH had the band chose to release this as a regular album. First off, dispense with the already released songs. That knocks out about twenty minutes. Then knock off the utterly disposable "Pasticho Medley". That's roughly forty five minutes gone. Then delete all the covers. After this musical exorcism, you're left with roughly seventy five to eighty minutes of original music. And it's some of the best music of the Pumpkin's career.

You don't get better music in the grunge genre than "Set the Rays to Jerry", "Ugly", "Pennies", "Believe", "God", "Medallia of the Grey Skies", and the rest. I fully believe had they released the music in a more user-friendly format, the resulting album would be as highly regarded as SIAMESE DREAM and MELLON COLLIE, and as it is, of all their B-sides AEROPLANE sounds most like MELLON COLLIE, enough to be a third disc of that album. While I've never been a fan of the title cut (gets a little monotous for my taste, and strangely enough they cut almost a minute off it on ROTTEN APPLES), "The Aeroplane Flies High" certainly does have an epic guitar feel to it, and would have fit in well with MELLON COLLIE.

And of course, we have one of the Pumpkin's best songs, the aforementioned "Rotten Apples". The song's so good they even named their greatest hits package. It's one of my top five favorite songs of not only the Smashing Pumpkins catalogue but the whole grunge scene indeed. What the hell Corgan was thinking (for you know he is the band, as evidenced by ZIETGIST) when he cut the song from MELLON COLLIE I'll never know.

As evidenced by how popular the band was in 1996, when Virgin Records released the set it sold tremendously well. A limited edition release, the box reached #42 on the Billboard charts, and sold 300,000 units (1.5 million discs in all), generating a platinum disc for the band. Originally intended to be limited to 200,000 copies, Virgin Records produced more after the original run sold out due to overwhelming and unexpected demand

Overall, the set has some of the Pumpkin's best songs here, and this is the closest thing we have to the great lost Pumpkins album. Well, this, and the Reel Time demos they cut before GISH.

EDITION NOTIES: This set is now unfortunately out of print, and has been since 1996. You'll have to buy it used or ebay it.

*For the smart consumer, you should know this box set curiously omits one officially released recording from the MELLON COLLIE era. This is the instrumental "Infinite Sadness", available now on their Rarities/B-Sides digital downloads. The song was originally released on the vastly reconfigured MELLON COLLIE vinyl album, which also included the "Tonight, Tonight" reprise found here.
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HASH(0x91b1e954) étoiles sur 5 Amazing 19 octobre 1999
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Buy this if you liked every single song on Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, and you're very into the soft smashing pumpkins songs. Don't buy it if you just want something that rocks. The Zero single is the only one of the five that really rocks. Not that that's a bad thing. There are a lot of amazing songs on here, but unless you're a really big fan, don't buy this. If you liked James Iha's "Take Me Down" then you'll like this set, there are 5 more James Iha songs on here, and they're just as good, especially "The Boy" and "Said Sadly". There are also some cool covers. "My Blue Heaven" ends the collection in a very strange, surreal way. Don't expect this to be as good as the album. After all, these are all the songs that the Smashing Pumpkins didn't want to put on Melon Collie because they liked the other ones better. If you're a big fan of their soft stuff, you'll love this. My favorites are "Marques in Spades", "Meladori Magpie", "The Last Song", "The Boy" and "Pennies". Most of the songs on here are love songs that show you how shallow and phony most love songs you hear now really are.
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HASH(0x91067318) étoiles sur 5 Mellon Collie Phase II 21 juin 2003
Par Inti Cristobal Santamaría Bolaños - Publié sur Amazon.com
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If you loved Mellon Collie, then you must listen to its necessary companion. It includes 33 tracks (5 of them are the Mellon Collie A-sides), out of which you can find all the B-sides. There are 6 covers, 2 James Iha compositions, 1 Corgan/Iha instrumental, and one huge, mostly instrumental, 23-minute collage of bits and snippets of outtakes and rehearsals of 1993-1995 sessions. The rest is pure Corgan. It all makes an almost 2-hour set.
Seems excessive? Maybe so. But it shows a breathtaking span of styles, moods and qualities. There's screaming heavymetal ("God"), distorted guitars a la 70s ("Tribute to Johnny"), naive charming pop ("The Boy"), simple but intense ballads ("Cherry"), country-ish attempts ("Meladori Magpie"), anthem-like serious songs ("The Last Song", a ballad, or "The Aeroplane Flies High, Turns Left, Looks Right", a rocker), acoustic straightforward confessions ("Blank"), devastatingly tender chants ("Medellia of the Great Skies", "Rotten Apples"), and even a 1920s song, "My Blue Heaven", with only voice, piano and cello. In "...Said Sadly" James Iha sings with the then-Veruca Salt vocalist Nina Gordon.
I think more or less one half of the songs could have made it into yet another album; the other half is for the curious or the die-hard fans. But the best part is really worth it. Some of the songs could have been great singles, such as "Transformer". It's a pity many of those tracks aren't listened to in the radio.
The covers show some influences on the group: The Cure, Blondie, Alice Cooper, The Cars, Missing Persons and George Whiting & Walter Donaldson (the 1920s guys).
There's an assorted mixture of approaches, but it is truly amazing those 28 tracks were recorded at the same time as those 28 found in Mellon Collie. More than 40 written by Corgan only!
The packaging is lush, and the 44-page booklet includes all the lyrics, plus many b/w photos of the Mellon Collie tour (taken by Corgan's girlfriend, Yelena Yemchuk), plus all the complete discography of the group until 1996, plus a literary Corgan introduction (a short text).
(By the way, the booklet's page 1 opens with a beautuiful b/w photograph of a black swan, no doubt one of the earliest hints to the name of Corgan's current band, Zwan.)
All in all, I love this box set.
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HASH(0x90f004c8) étoiles sur 5 If you can find a copy, get it NOW 25 août 2001
Par Michael Topper - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Now that it is out of print, "The Aeroplane Flies High" is likely to join the list of essential Smashing Pumpkins releases that have become increasingly hard to find at conventional record store outlets (a list that includes various b-sides, promos, soundtrack work and the internet-only "Machina II"). A specially-priced boxed set of all the "Mellon Collie" singles, the twenty-eight new b-sides found here were recorded during and shortly after the sessions for that gargantuan epic and all of them (barring the five New Wave covers and "Pastichio Medley") could've fit easily onto that work. Indeed, "The Aeroplane Flies High" might as well be termed "Mellon Collie Pt.2", for everything here is five-star quality. In spite of being b-sides, there is not a trace of filler, and indeed some of their best-ever songs can be found in its contents: "Set The Ray To Jerry", "Tribute To Johnny", "Medellia Of The Gray Skies", "Meladori Magpie", "Last Song", "Ugly", "God"...the list goes on. The musical styles cover every ground from hard rock to acoustic balladry to lengthy epics (the title track) to compact pop to everything in-between. The five cover versions are probably the weakest here, although "You're All I've Got Tonight" and "Clones" are worthwhile. "Pastichio Medley", a fascinating edit of over forty instrumental jams, is impressive just on the basis of showing how much music was flowing out of the group at this time. The accompanying booklet features photos, lyrics and a complete official discography of all releases up to 1996. It all comes in a bizarre op-art carrying case which makes it a truly distinctive collector's item, albeit one that went double platinum. If you can find a copy, get it, as it is likely that these gems--as essential as any of their regular album releases-- will become harder to find as the years pass.
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