PrésenceTOP 50 COMMENTATEURS on 28 juillet 2009
Impossible de résister au pouvoir attractif des 2 noms en tête d'affiche : Jim Lee et Frank Miller. En 2002 et 2003, Jim Lee avait mis tout le monde à genoux et laissé la compétition loin derrière en illustrant Batman Hush et Batman: Hush - Volume Two. Il revient en 2005 sur la série de prestige All Star dont les 9 premiers épisodes sont regroupés dans ce recueil.
Comme tout artiste qui se respecte, son style a un peu évolué : son objectif n'est plus de remplir chaque case avec un maximum de détails. Cette série fait la place belle aux pleines pages et doubles pages qui permettent à Jim Lee de camper ses personnages en entier dans de somptueux décors. Il s'offre même une sextuple page (à déplier dans ce recueil) pour réaliser un panoramique magistral de la batcave. La deuxième différence significative par rapport à Hush réside dans le fait qu'il n'a pas modernisé les costumes de Batman ou Robin, ou apposé sa griffe dessus.
Frank Miller s'est déjà frotté plusieurs fois au personnage de Batman. Dans The Dark Knight Returns, il l'a réinventé en homme mûr (une petite cinquantaine bien portée) revenant sur le devant de la scène après une préretraite.Lire la suite ›
Ce récit à l'époque a été lancé en parallèle de All Star Superman, cet arc n'est pas allé au bout à cause des retards de Jim Lee au dessin (celui-ci a plusieurs casquettes), quand on va au bout de ce récit je n'ai pas l'impression que l'on ait perdu grand chose.
Tout ce que je trouve de bien dans ce récit ce sont les dessins de Jim Lee, je dirais en gros que ce livre (les 9 premiers tomes /10 de la série All Star Batman) c'est un très mauvais livre dans un très joli emballage appelé Jim Lee et Scott Williams.
Comme toujours Jim Lee est une super star du dessin, très bien aidé par Scott Williams qui encre bien.
Pour le scénario, on a déjà l'impression que l'on se moque de nous avec des langueurs inutiles faites juste pour vendre plus de numéros de ces deux poids lourds du comics.
L'histoire parle donc de la rencontre entre Batman et Robin/Dick Grayson juste après le meurtre de ses parents. Cette histoire se passe donc peu de temps après l'excellent Batman Year One. Dans ce récit Batman est dépeint comme quelqu'un de très violent, qui veut faire peur à la pègre locale. Batman veut souvent impressionner son monde et en particulier Robin, y compris les autres super héros qu'il méprise (SuperMan, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern et Plastic Man). Mais c'est là que le bat blesse c'est fait maladroitement, on dirait que Miller et moi ne parlons plus le même langage. J'ai l'impression tout du long que Frank Miller se force à avoir l'air cool aurpès de gens (plus jeune que moi ?) qui ne sont pas comme moi.Lire la suite ›
Je n'ai pas été convaincu par le scénario de Miller. Par contre les dessins de Lee sauvent les meubles de cette aventure peu inspirée et insipide. Il est loin le temps ou Miller nous pondait chef d'œuvre sur chef d'oeuvre.
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A poor retelling and characterization. Miller at his worst27 juillet 2011
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I completely and utterly disapprove of the way Millar portrays Batman. He comes off as a raving lunatic and has spouts cheesy Spiderman-like lines as he beats up bad guys. I sometimes got confused and thought that it was Wolverine in a Batman suit, with all the "bub," "kiddo," and "snot-nosed punk" dialogue. I'm pretty sure that he or somebody else says "Shut up!" like 900 times in the 200 or so pages that the story takes to unfold. And nothing really does unfold at that. This is mainly the reinventing of the story of the Boy Wonder's recruitment into the Bat family and it starts with Batman kidnapping and psychologically torturing Grayson after the hit on his parents. Miller's Batman is a disgusting, unlikable brute with none of the detective skills or sense of morality that separates the Dark Knight from a street thug. Maybe that's what he was going for, but I found it dispiriting and utterly unheroic. By the end, I found myself in complete agreement with Clark that Batman had to be stopped and that he was more dangerous than some of the criminals on the street. He laughs like a lunatic as he springs into action, takes joy in how many bones he's broken over the course of the evening and says things like, "I love being the goddamn Batman." Maybe that works for the Punisher, but I like my Bruce Wayne to stick a little closer to the light side of the gray line.
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LOVE/HATE3 mars 2010
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Basically if you want great art and an overly angry Batman with little story then this is for you. If not you should wait and see if Vol. 2 ever gets completed and see if the story picks up.
This collects the first 9 issues of this series. I bought the first 9 single issues, even though they were often delayed. My problem wasn't the over the top take on Batman and the rest of the Justice League (which at times is annoying and a bit much), my problem is that nothing seems to happen in these 9 issues. Sure Jim Lee's art is great and Batman being a d&%$ is kind of fun but outside of Robin's tragedy and some random thugs and cops getting beaten up it's all set up. Set up for a second run that will take God knows how long for them to complete, if it ever happens.
If you want Frank Miller and Batman buy: Batman Year One or Dark Knight Returns.
If you want Jim Lee and Batman buy: Hush.
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Another dip in the Frank Miller collection17 avril 2011
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There's no question that Frank Miller is a creative genius. Unfortunately, Miller's gift is never a sure thing. For every "Dark Knight Returns," there is a "Dark Knight Strikes Again." And for every "Batman: Year One," there is an "All-Star Batman & Robin, The Boy Wonder."
This could, I suppose, be titled "Robin: Year One," except that Chuck Dixon beat Miller to the punch several years prior, and he did a great job with it, too. This effort, which takes us from just before the murder of Dick Grayson's parents through his early days of training in the Batcave and first few outings as Robin, is a story only a sadist could love. "All-Star" gives us a Batman who is brutal, maniacal and without conscience. He doesn't rescue Grayson: he abducts him, then subjects him to mental, emotional and physical torture. He doesn't work with Gotham City's police department in any capacity; figuring the cops are all corrupt anyway, he beats them or kills them if they get in his way. And Jim Gordon, Batman's only ally on the force, doesn't seem to mind too much if a few cops get wasted on his watch. Meanwhile, Miller continues to show his disdain for the other DC heroes: Superman is a pompous oaf, Green Lantern is a talentless idiot, Wonder Woman is a raging man-hater. Other characters are rewritten to suit Miller's whims: Black Canary is now an Irish bartender who goes on a rampage after one too many customers called her "sweet chunks," Jimmy Olsen now works in Gotham, Vicki Vale is a hard-hitting columnist who goes damp at the mere mention of Bruce Wayne's name and Batgirl is just an eager girl with a gimmick.
The text -- both the dialogue and Batman's, Robin's and everyone else's inner monologues -- is endlessly repetitive and needlessly profane. The plot is simple and shallow, lacking any real direction beyond Miller's attempt to shock his readers. But, after so many stories that have actually shocked us with some purpose, this bland and witless parody falls flat. It's not edgy, Frank, it's just violent. On the plus side, Jim Lee's art is simply fantastic.
by Tom Knapp, Rambles.(net) editor
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An insult to the character and its legacy23 mars 2012
Jack M. Haringa
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If All-Star Batman & Robin had been my introduction to the characters, I never would have read another Batman comic. This is, without a doubt, the worst characterization of Batman I've ever read, and I'm speaking as someone who has read Andrew Vacchs' Batman: The Ultimate Evil. Miller's portrayal of the character as psychotic, self-indulgent, crass, and amoral flies in the face of 70+ years of development.
Frank Miller was once an excellent comics writer. His runs on Daredevil in the '80s, his Wolverine mini-series, and his seminal The Dark Knight Returns combined extraordinary line work with innovative storytelling, ushering in the new, grim, and "adult" era of superhero comics. But his recent work, reaching what seems like a nadir with All-Star Batman & Robin has been increasingly a portrayal of adolescent revenge fantasy peppered with misogyny and crudity, lacking any of the sophistication and intelligence of his earlier work. The final four pages of alleged redemption rang so false and contrived after the previous 200+ pages of self-absorption and cruelty that I literally scoffed out loud. Batman's treatment of Dick Grayson as a "soldier" makes R. Lee Ermey's drill sergeant in Full Metal Jacket look like a Cub Scout den mother. The last time I checked the long boxes, Batman wasn't a sadist. Nor did he speak like an unhinged offensive coach for an NFL all-felon expansion team. This comic can be offered as a reply to anyone looking for the antonym of "subtle."
Jim Lee shouldn't be left off the hook here. While he can sketch a dynamic page and deliver quality action scenes, he also has never met a crotch shot he didn't like. The Black Canary, Catwoman, and even Batgirl are drawn in poses that can only be described as lascivious. He also has a fondness for spouting blood and flying teeth. The dentists of Gotham must be in high demand. Now, whether Lee laid all this out on his own or worked under the direction of Miller, I can't say. But there's a heavy creep factor to much of the art that only exacerbates Miller's narrative excesses.
It's time for Frank Miller to take some time away from comics. And it's past time for comics publishers to stop giving him a venue for his misogynistic explorations of his own daddy issues.
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Awful. Stay Away10 janvier 2010
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When I first heard that Jim Lee and Frank Miller were collaborating to do a Batman origins tale, I was really excited. Despite the negative reviews surrounding it, I decided to give it a shot. Big mistake. The dialogue is cheesy, and the story is nonsense. I was absolutely shocked by the rampant child abuse and violent behaviors of Batman in this work. (From a desentisized young 20 something year old who usually doesnt care about that kinda stuff, that says something.) Batman smacks Robin in the face and calls him stupid and feeds him rats. It is pretty disgusting and completely out of character. More stupid than anything. I thought Superman would give this psychopathic Batman a smackdown as it was insinuated in the beginning of the novel, but he doesnt. Cameos of other Justice Leaguers prove to be useless as well. Skip this work and read Batman/ Superman the Search for Kryptonite. This work tries to be edgy and cool but it turns out to be stupid. It gets a star for the awesome art work of Jim Lee. Too bad its wasted on this trash.