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Atlantis: Ancient Legacy, Hidden Prophecy [Format Kindle]

John Michael Greer

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"Plato's account contains precise references to the catastrophic global flooding that followed the end of the last ice age and peaked at the exact date he gives for the drowning of Atlantis. The occult traditions of Atlantis tell a radically different story, a story of technology run wild amid a desperate struggle for the soul of a dying civilization . . . "

The Ultimate Question

The legend of Atlantis—a lost civilization drowned beneath the waters of the Atlantic Ocean—has inspired controversy for more than two thousand years, and remains a hot topic even today.

Join occult historian John Michael Greer on a journey through time in search of one of the great mysteries of the past.  Starting with the original versions of the Atlantis story in the dialogues of Plato, Greer tracks the Atlantis myth from the hidden lodges of occult secret societies, through the freewheeling debates of the alternative history scene, to the latest scientific discoveries about the prehistoric past.  

In light of newspaper headlines about global warming and the future of industrial society, Greer poses the ultimate question—is the legend of Atlantis a legacy of the distant past, or a prophecy of our own future?

Atlantis includes practical lessons in scrying (remote viewing) as well as a call to action for "seedbearers" — individuals who will help preserve the cultural, scientific, and practical legacies of the past and present through the coming planetary changes.

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  • Editeur : Llewellyn Publications (8 octobre 2007)
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Mysteries Magazine review 28 octobre 2007
Par Kim Guarnaccia - Publié sur
The story is familiar: at the height of its glory, a mighty civilization sinks beneath the waves and vanishes, leaving only tantalizing legends in its wake. But what do we really know about Atlantis? In Atlantis: Ancient Legend, Hidden Prophecy, John Michael Greer provides a fair, fascinating and clearly referenced overview of Atlantis as envisioned by thinkers from ancient Greece to the present day. Covering a wide range of material from the sensible to the silly, Greer maps out this popular legend and provides tantalizing hints of the reality which may lie behind these stories.

Greer notes that Plato took pains to state that his account of Atlantis (the earliest we have) was literal truth, not allegory or metaphor. He also points out that Plato's account describes a civilization which was no more advanced than its neighbors. Plato's Atlanteans drove war chariots rather than flying saucers and used spears and arrows rather than mind control rays and levitation devices.

So where did the Atlantean crystal healers and channeled guides come from? From no less than that (in)famous Russian emigré and polymath Helena Petrova Blavatsky. Her Atlanteans (not to mention the denizens of Lemuria, Mu and other ancient civilizations allegedly destroyed by catastrophe) bore little resemblance to Plato's Mediterranean warriors. From there, a shy photographer named Edgar Cayce gave detailed dream-descriptions of the sunken city and the people who had lived there in past lives--as well as an erroneous prediction that Atlantis would rise again in 1968/69.

While Greer refrains from prophesying about when Atlantis will rise, he does offer us some thought-provoking (if a bit gloomy) reflections about our present culture. Modern geologists have shown a long history of radical climate change. And as oil supplies run dry and our consumerist lifestyles become increasingly untenable, we may find that our tales of forgotten civilizations contain hidden truths--and our myths of eternal progress and the triumph of science may hide horrible falsehoods.

If you have any interest in Atlantis or advanced prehistoric civilizations, Greer has compiled information from Plato to the present day, providing an encyclopedic listing of sources for your own studies of the lands beneath the wave. Atlantis: Ancient Legacy, Hidden Prophecy is sure to become the definitive text on the subject, and is highly recommended.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 AT LAST... ATLANTIS IS FOUND!!!! 14 février 2008
Par Richard Masloski - Publié sur
Well, maybe the fabled lost continent has not been definitively found or bobbed back to the surface from the ocean's depths.....but the BEST book of the topic has, alas, surfaced! After book upon book riddled with wild speculation and sometimes thoroughly absurd notions regarding the real riddle of Atlantis, Mr. Greer has given us a no-nonsense, crystal-clear, effectively written history of this Mystery from its first mention by Plato on through the centuries and its myriad incarnations unto the present day...and to the startling conclusion that we, ourselves, NOW...may be inhabitants of Atlantis. We....may be the Atlanteans! The circle may be about to close as past becomes present. Anyway - forget all of the other books and buy this one which surpasses all previous efforts in elucidating this more-important-than-we-may-know Enigma. Thank you, Mr. Greer for making all Atlantean matters Clear!
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Legominism in practice 1 février 2009
Par W. Paul Blakey - Publié sur
The Occult Atlantis is a curious work. Is it indeed a legominism?

To quote from the book itself: "The term ... legominism means a structure of ideas by which ancient wisdom is passed on in a form apparently intended for some entirely different purpose."

The reason I ask the question is that Greer does a very good job investigating the roots of the Atlantis mythology, but does not lead the reader to a satisfactory conclusion, as to its reality or otherwise. He leaves us treading water, as it were, in the aftermath of a flood of ideas.

A pertinent factoid about Tolkien that is not in the book, is that the good professor had dreams throughout his life about a huge wave that crashed over the land, destroying everything. The dreams stopped when he began to write the Lord of the Rings, which is of course a vast mythology based on the concept of an ancient civilization that had somehow been destroyed.

Perhaps Greer's intention was to lead the reader to the appendix where he outlines some time traveling meditation techniques of the Western Mystery Tradition to encourage readers who have been called by the story of Atlantis, to explore it for themselves.

In any case, this is a book worth reading. It's like looking at a very famous painting (say the Mona Lisa) through the eyes of someone who has their head tilted to one side and is standing at an unusual angle to the picture. Is she really smiling, and if so, why?
5.0 étoiles sur 5 John Michael Greer's legominism 20 septembre 2013
Par Ashtar Command - Publié sur
John Michael Greer is a somewhat Janus-faced author, who has both books about peak oil and occultism to his credit. He has even published a book on monsters.

"Atlantis" straddles the two former subjects: the present crisis of civilization and various esoteric-spiritual subjects. Greer has a more moderate and realistic view of Atlantis than most alternative writers on the mysterious lost continent. Despite that, his books come across as far scarier in the end! However, it also carries a hidden message of hope and renewal. "More on that as we proceed".

As almost everyone knows, the story of Atlantis originally appears in the Greek philosopher Plato's famous dialogue "Timaeus". It's also mentioned in "Critias". Plato claims that Atlantis was an ancient great power, fighting a war against Athens. Atlantis eventually sunk in the sea, due to an enormous earthquake. The island of Atlantis was situated "outside the Pillars of Hercules" (i.e. Gibraltar), which would place it somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. Plato claims that the Greek statesman and reformer Solon heard the story from an Egyptian priest. Speculations about Atlantis, its inhabitants and their eventual fate have been rife ever since, with sceptics either regarding Plato's story as a myth or a garbled account of how the Minoan civilization of Crete was destroyed by a volcanic eruption at Thera. True believers, by contrast, have filled in the original account of "Timaeus" with their own, pretty wild, speculations. Many don't even place Atlantis in the Atlantic! Greer has little problems dispensing with the fringe "theories", although he does it in a relatively charitable manner.

Apart from Atlantis, occultists and people in the rejected-knowledge movement have "discovered" or invented other sunken continents. Of these, Lemuria is the most well-known. Originally a scientific speculation about a land bridge between Madagascar and India, Lemuria has "migrated" eastwards, eventually ending up in California! Some people apparently believe that Mount Shasta is the last remnant of this sunken landmass. There is also the Hyperborean continent and the weirdly named Mu. (Greer doesn't mention the British pop band "Justified Ancients of Mu Mu"!) The most interesting idea from Greer's part is that Madame Blavatsky's "The Secret Doctrine" isn't meant to be taken literally. Rather, it's a exoteric doctrine in the form of a "legominism", an adaptation of the esoteric message in a form appropriate for its time, with the actual contents being hidden beneath a surface seemingly about something else. If Greer is right, Theosophists and others who diligently study Blavatsky's two-volume opus and take it as literal truth, have misunderstood the deeper purpose of the work.

While more "moderate" than most people in the rejected-knowledge movement, the author nevertheless presents some speculations of his own. The Earth was rocked by catastrophic floods, climate change and other disasters at about the same time as Plato's Atlantis is supposed to have been destroyed. Greer further believes that Plato's geography makes sense, and that Atlantis could have been an island off the American Atlantic coast. Both Cuba and the Bahama islands were much larger 10,000 years ago. Greer tentatively suggests that Grand Bahama Bank might have been the location of Atlantis. This is not a new theory, and strange structures have actually been found off the coast of Bimini Island (the famous Bimini Road). In Greer's opinion, they could be man-made.

Of course, if Greer and others are correct, we would have to *radically* revise our view of the Stone Age. Greer believes it's possible to create a real civilization with Stone Age technology, a civilization with towns, ships, empires, advanced art, writing and a relatively advanced agriculture and animal husbandry. Some of his arguments are compelling, others less so. Surely a Stone Age empire is a stretch? Greer is positive towards Charles Hapgood's classic "Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings", generally regarded as a pseudo-scientific work. Yet, I admit that his case against knuckle-walking cavemen (or traditional hunters and gatherers) is somewhat stronger than I expected.

Of course, John Michael Greer has an agenda with "Atlantis", as those familiar with his other books might have guessed already. Greer is a strong opponent of the Myth of Progress, and a supporter of the cyclical view of history. Modern civilization is inevitably heading for disaster because of cataclysmic climate change. Even apart from man-made disasters, Earth is an unstable planet. Naturally occurring changes in climate have occurred before, and even worse disasters are possible. Thus, a volcanic eruption at La Palma in the Canary Islands could create a megatsunami that would literally wipe out the U.S. East Coast, including New York City and Washington DC, flooding everything in its way until stopped by the Appalachians. It will happen, sooner or later - if tomorrow or in ten thousand years, nobody knows. Frankly, I was scared reading ppg. 126-129 of this book! Greer's hard line comment: "Get used to it". Ooops.

Thus, the story of Atlantis carries an unexpected warning to our own time: the Myth of Progress is phoney, the Stone Age was really quite advanced, but its sophisticated civilization eventually went under, so what makes us think we are any different? However, "Atlantis" also contains a germ of hope. The other coin of Greer's reasoning is that humans can create a viable civilization even without modern, Western technology. Thus, the human race doesn't have to go extinct just because *we* do (this apocalyptic idea is really the flip side of the Myth of Progress). Even after massive future disasters, enough of humanity will survive to start the cycle anew, on a very different planet - just as we did the last time around, after the destruction of Atlantis.

"Atlantis" thus turns out to be Greer's very own legominism. It's not really a book about Atlantis at all, but carries a hidden message adapted to the conspiracist-sensationalist sensibilities of the Internet age. People seemed to have missed the real point of Blavatsky's oeuvre. I can only hope that they won't miss the point of John Michael Greer...
5.0 étoiles sur 5 Renew your faith in the reality of Atlantis, read this story and begin to believe again 21 décembre 2012
Par Robin T. Wernick - Publié sur
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I have been skeptical for decades on the idea of Atlantis having been in Antarctica. "Atlantis: AncientLegacy, Hidden Prophecy" gave me a more believable viewpoint. In a masterful introduction to the story of Atlantis, the author introduces the most in depth historical review of the story that I have ever encountered. He shows where and even who, in many cases, was involved in defining the current beliefs about Atlantis. He introduces secret societies, movie makers, ancient maps, and even archaeological evidence to support his concept that the city of Atlantis was located across the mountains from the Ross Ice Shelf in Antartica.

I still think that the maps of the ancient sea kings place Atlantis on an island that was part of the eastern continental shelf that slid into the ocean 12600 years ago during the breakup of the North American ice sheet following that minor incident that caused the North Pole to migrage from Hudson's Bay to its present position and raise lake Titicata from sea level to over 10,000 feet where it sits now. Don't forget the lake contains sea creatures that can live in fresh water.

But, Mr. Greer has managed to make me believe that it is possible for an outpost of Atlantis did exist on Antartica 13000 years ago inland from the Weddell Sea. At that time that location would have been at about the same latitude as Patigonia is today, and we don't think that it is uninhabitable. So, the story is expanding and getting even more hairy with the discovery of the Bimini Road and the sunken city off the west coast of Cuba. The current story of ancient civilizations before 10.000 BC is developing fatal cracks and this book is helping to widen those cracks to expose a more believable truth.

So, if you want to put the pieces together that tell of a world spannig civilization that created trade among world powers with seagoing ships, written languages and a well known history that preceeded it by 20,000 years, this book is one of the better places to start. Find out something about the people who actually created the Spinx and moved the 3,000 ton stone into the temple at Baalbek Lebanon over five thousand years ago, then add this to your collection. You won't be disappointed, he tells a very intriguing tale.
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