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BEETHOVEN : Symphonie n° 5 en ut mineur op. 67 & n° 7 en la majeur op. 92

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  • Interprète: Karl Böhm
  • Orchestre: Berliner Philharmoniker
  • Chef d'orchestre: Karl Böhm
  • Compositeur: Ludwig Beethoven
  • CD (30 août 2004)
  • Nombre de disques: 1
  • Label: Deutsche Grammophon
  • ASIN : B0002HACO0
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A Vienne, Karl Böhm enregistra dans les années 1970 une intégrale des symphonies de Beethoven qui demeure une référence pour son classicisme et son équilibre formel.
Voilà que Deutsche Grammophon réédite ici les gravures microsillons réalisées avec la Philharmonie de Berlin, deux décennies auparavant.

Captée en avril 1958, la "Septième" se montre d'une lisibilité exemplaire, nonobstant la consistance et la densité sonores de l'orchestre allemand.
L'équilibre tonal reste assez clair, grâce à des basses qui asseyent le discours sans l'alourdir, ce qui sert particulièrement la transparence du discours (magnifique épisode central du Scherzo, éclairé par de lumineuses trompettes).

La "Cinquième" de mars 1953 s'avère moins convaincante, notamment dans les deux Allegro attaca. Le premier manque de souplesse, d'agilité, et ne permet guère la propulsion du second, privé de la liesse jubilatoire qui l'euphorise sous des baguettes plus spontanément expressives.

Rien de rédhibitoire bien sûr : la direction pleine d'aplomb du maestro garantit une irréprochable assurance stylistique.

Mais à l'aune d'une discographie abondée par tant d'interprétations géniales, l'exigence poussera la sévérité à priver l'évaluation de ce CD d'une 5° et suprême étoile.
En tout cas, les audiophiles sauront apprécier l'extraordinaire qualité de cette monophonie de la grande époque DG.
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HASH(0x9ae0bc9c) étoiles sur 5 Bohm's Brilliant Beethoven 29 décembre 2004
Par Michael Brad Richman - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
I am beginning to fall in love with DG's new "Musik...Sprache der Welt" series. Sure a few of the titles feature selections that have already been or continue to be available on other CDs (see my reviews of the Schubert Markevitch and Schumann Furtwangler titles), but the vast majority of these performances have been languishing in the vaults for far too long. Of course, the fact that these discs sell at mid-price when comparable classic historical performances from the EMI and Decca archives sell on labels like Testament for full-price, makes this series all the more worthwhile.

Conductor Karl Bohm recorded one of the great Beethoven Symphony Cycles of all-time in the early 1970s with the Vienna Philharmonic (available as three different two-fer titles in DG's "Double 2CD" series), but this disc features a 1953 mono account of the 5th Symphony and a 1958 stereo version of the 7th, both with the Berlin Philharmonic. In fact, this performance of the 5th is the very first recording the conductor made for the label -- an association that would last nearly thirty years. This earlier performance of the 5th easily matches the latter account despite its mono sound, and this version of the 7th is in many ways better than the Vienna follow-up in my opinion. Regardless, when listening to this CD you will know you are in the presence of one of history's greatest Beethoven interpreters.

In conclusion, I would like to commend DG/Universal on producing another fine classical music series in "Musik...Sprache der Welt." Thanks for reminding us that there are still some great recordings that need to be reissued, and that we shouldn't have to pay a small fortune to hear them.
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HASH(0x9ad6f960) étoiles sur 5 Hearty 13 janvier 2008
Par David Saemann - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
According to members of the Metropolitan Opera Ochestra, Karl Bohm had the foulest tongue of any maestro there. He was so insulting to the New York Philharmonic during his one guest appearance there that the orchestra nearly went on strike for what was a Pension Fund benefit concert. I bring this up because rage was an important factor in Bohm's music making, and what one hears on this Beethoven Fifth more than anything else is rage and tension. It is thrilling, with a healthy sense of the architecture of the piece. There are many great recordings of the Fifth, including Furtwangler on EMI, Ashkenazy on Universal, and the last Klemperer on EMI. This performance is in that category. The Seventh is somewhat less inspired. It is very similar to Bohm's later, more recommendable version with the Vienna Philharmonic, but with somewhat cloudier sound engineering and a little less grace in the orchestra's phrasing. But for the Fifth, this is a disc that commands to be heard. The mono sound in the Fifth is also quite good, with just a little too much distance from the mikes.
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HASH(0x9ad83858) étoiles sur 5 Great 5th and ultra superb 7th 27 avril 2009
Par M. A. Scott - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
Disregard what Sante Fe Listener says and pay attention to Mr.Richman because both of these symphonies are excellent. The fifth is played and interpreted well but the sound quality isn't to good. But for 1953 mono sound it's very acceptable and after a few minutes your ears will adjust. I would say that the 5th is maybe in the top 10% of all the versions out there.

I think that this 7th is the best I've ever heard and is even better than his 1970's version with the VPO. I think this one was recorded in about 1959, and to me, this has superb sound quality that sometimes you don't even get in the 21st century. Mr.Richman should be listened to more than Sante Fe Listener because Sante Fe just knocks the best recordings of classical music all the time. I'm out!!!
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HASH(0x9c513468) étoiles sur 5 Good #7, lesser #5 9 décembre 2012
Par Jon Miller - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
This Beethoven 7th is contemporaneous with Bohm's great BPO Brahms Symphonies 1 and 2-also from the late fifties. It is more dramatic and propulsive than its discmate but not as flawless as the perfect BPO Brahms which is definitely preferable to his VPO remakes in the 1970s. I would still like quicker speeds in movements 1,3, and 4 of the seventh- ca two minutes total (and I do not advocate runaway speeds in #7).The second movement is not
rushed but does not drag c.f the quickly paced version of Carlos Kleiber/VPO and others (excessively, I think). The first movement builds to an exciting climax with great horns// Munch/BSO (still my favorite). The third movement is also suitably quick and the finale is exciting but coherent, with a finely calibrated conclusion. This reading is superior to Bohm's later VPO version which itself is analagous to
Bohm's 1953 Beethoven fifth on this cd. It is more static than the exciting fifths by Erich Kleiber/Decca, Fritz Reiner/RCA and Eugen Jochum/Tahra-it is more akin to Klemperer's
EMI #5 compared to his livelier version on Testament. On the whole, Bohm's BPO Beethoven ignited him (and us), but other VPO performances could do likewise, e.g. the 1955 Magic Flut and the early sixties Mozart wind concerti and sinfoinia concertante for winds. This Beethoven seven, however, improves upon the 1953 fifth.

Peers: #7- Munch/BSO/RCA; Reiner/CSO/RCA; Jochum/BPO/DG; Klemperer/Testament/PO (not his EMI version); Steinberg/EMI; Szell/Sony; Haitink/RCOA/Philips
#5- E.Kleiber/RCOA/Decca; Szell/Sony; Reiner/CSO/RCA; Jochum/BPO/Tahra, BRSO/DG, and RCOA/Philips; Carlos Kleiber
VPO/DG; Steinberg/EMI and Command; Klemperer/Testament/PO (not EMI)
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HASH(0x9c57d42c) étoiles sur 5 Bohm's Beethoven from the Fifties, recommendable mostly to his fans 14 juillet 2006
Par Santa Fe Listener - Publié sur Amazon.com
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In the ranks of great Beethoven conductors, I wouldn't say Karl Bohm has much chance for inclusion. Bohm has his fans, however, and one gives him a bad review on Amazon at one's peril. But there might be inexperiened listeners who haven't made up their minds yet, so here goes. This 1958 Sym. #7 is in good analog stereo. The first movement moves along like a traditional middle-European reading of no special distinction except that Bohm gets a rich, full sound from the Berlin Phil. Otherwise, you can't tell the difference between this and any decent provincial reading from an uncelebrated condcutor.

The Allegretto starts off with a light touch, and considering the date, Bohm chooses a tempo that's not too slow. But we quickly hear that he has no ideas to offer about phrasing or emotional depth--this is just one bar following another. The Scherzo goes at a modreate pace without much vitality. The finale can be described in the same words.

The 1953 Fifth Sym. has some historical significance as Bohm's first LP for DGG. The mono sound is quite good for its day, certainly miles ahead of Toscanini, yet how one longs for the great Italian maestro! Bohm's first movement is vigorous, with expert balances and a heroic sonority from the Berliners. But as with the Seventh, we are in the land of conventional musicmaking without much hope of originality or inner fire. The Andante con moto is rahter heavy the Scherzo is devoid of mystery, the finale lacks fire.

As he aged Bohm's Beethoven became staid, so one can say that these two performances are among his best efforts. The Fifth shows more life than the Seventh and therefore is the reason for buying this CD if that's what suits your fancy.
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