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Must Read classic 17 août 2011
Par Crystal - Publié sur
Format: Broché
I didn't read this edition; a little paperback version came to me. I read it long ago and read it again recently. This book had an incredible impact on me. Over the years people have come to criticize the author, John Neidhardt. The book ends somewhat abruptly not long after Wounded Knee and then there is an account of Black Elk's prayer on Harney Peak when he was an old man and he asked to make his people live again kind of tacked on the end. Many seem to feel Neidhardt was exploiting Black Elk to get a book out of him. I don't claim to be an expert on Black Elk and this subject, but from what I know I do not agree with the totally cynical assessment. Black Elk had been off the reservation in the Buffalo Bill Show and given his experiences he was hardly naive or ignorant. Black Elk's son Ben had been in the Carlyle school so he would have known if the book did not reflect his father's vision and words and life. The book was also not an instant bestseller. Neidhardt promoted this book and Black Elk's vision tirelessly until the end of his life and I truly believe it was because he saw the incredible spiritual nature of Black Elk, his life, and visions. And his "great vision" as a youngster can only be described as cataclysmic and psychedelic. When the spirits want you to see something you will see it and no drugs are necessary.

Neidhardt left out the ensuing years on Pine Ridge Reservation and Black Elk's acceptance of Catholicism to frame a lost way of life, the sadness and injustice of it, and the greatness and seeming inevitability of Black Elk's vision. I believe any poetic license taken was in service of bringing forth a greater truth. The book was not meant to be a biography or history of the Lakota, but to preserve Black Elk's vision and so the purpose of the book was accomplished. Those who want to pick at the book miss the greater impact of Black Elk's life and vision. As this was not Neidhardt's culture he probably also didn't totally understand nor was he able to explain some things, but again, are we missing the greater truth of the book by focusing on imperfections? Read this book with an open heart and you won't be disappointed.

Some feel Black Elk became a Catholic as a way of continuing to teach the Lakota way along with the Christian faith to preserve the Lakota culture. I believe he was intelligent and had such a great spirit he saw he could blend both faiths and build a bridge for the future. Nor was he intimidated into the Christian faith. His daughter said his acceptance of the Catholic faith was true and not a sham to keep teaching the Lakota ways surreptitiously. After reading this book, if Black Elk interests you there are books available on the later half of his life. Black Elk lived until 1950. You may also be interested in The Sacred Pipe: Black Elk's Account of the Seven Rites of the Oglala Sioux (The Civilization of the American Indian Series).

If you would like a somewhat different perspective or style of writing you might take a look at Lame Deer, Seeker of Visions (Enriched Classics). Lame Deer felt Black Elk Speaks missed the mark in some ways so he enlisted the help of Richard Erdoes to write his own book as Lame Deer did not speak much English. I enjoyed reading Lame Deer, Seeker of Visions as there is humor and compassion toward all in his account of his life and that of his people.
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Black Elk Still Speaks 19 février 2000
Par Franz Metcalf - Publié sur
Format: Broché
To potential readers, worried about the authenticity of this work and its right to speak for Native Americans:
The question of how closely the words of this book follow the words of Black Elk has long been debated. It will not be decided here. Turn to the scholarly literature if you truly wish to pursue an answer. I have done that and in my mind (and I do have some education in these realms) am at peace with the book as a genuine expression of turn of the century Lakota spirituality. Neihardt may have written the words, and Ben Black Elk (Black Elk's son) may have done the translating, but Black Elk lived the life, as is corroborated by other sources.
I use the work in my introduction to religion classes, to bring another world to life for my students. Is Black Elk's vision theirs? Of course not. Is the book even Black Elk's vision? Perhaps not exactly. But it is a vision of power and every now and then it awakens a vision in students living 100 years after Black Elk. I belive Black Elks speaks and there is some power in his words still.
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One of the Best Books I've Read 6 novembre 2000
Par Zekeriyah - Publié sur
Format: Broché
This is the biography of Black Elk, a wichasha wakon (priest) of the Oglala Sioux, as recorded by John Neihardt. This is not some cheesy new age fiction nor is it a dry documentary told from a western view point. This is the actual life story of a holy man and goes into great detail about his visions. From his words we are able to catch a glimpse of Native American religion and spirituality on the Great Plains as it was in the late 1800s/early 1900s. This stands out as one of the greatest works on Native American religion to date. I highly rocemmend that ANYONE read this book.
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Wonderful, patient wisdom. 10 août 2009
Par M. OSULLIVAN - Publié sur
Format: Broché
I saw this was rated one star and couldn't believe it. Now I see it was not the book that was being rated but erroneously it was the "seller" who failed to deliver. The seller should have given negative feedback to the seller and left the book alone.

This is a wonderful book on so many levels. I went back to college at 40+ and read it then. Later on I bought it for my grown son. It's full of patient wisdom and compassion that we all need to remember how to use and seldom see anymore. Some things never go out of style. They touch on basic human qualities and needs.
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This is a biography instead of a book on Sioux Spirituality 7 décembre 2000
Par Amazon Customer - Publié sur
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
This book is a biography of the famous Sioux holy man Nick Black Elk.
It tells of young Black Elk's powerful vision. This is one of the few books to place the colors in the proper directions.
This is not a blanket statement that everything in this book is correct. I noticed two errors.
1. The word Oglala is misspelled throughout the book
2. The photo on page 282. I have seen this photo in other sources, and the indian standing to the left of Nick Black Elk was called by another name.
If you want a biography of the famous holy man this is an excelent book.
If you want a book on American Indian Spirituality go elsewhere.
"The Sacred Pipe" Joseph Epes Brown
"Foolscrow: Wisdom and Power" Thomas E. Mails
"Native Wisdom" Ed McGaa
"Mother Earth Spirituality" Ed McGaa
Please contact me if you have questions or comments. Two Bears
Wah doh Ogedoda "We give thanks Great Spirit"
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