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Charli Persip - How Not to Play Drums: Not for Drummers Only (Anglais) Broché – 1 mars 2003


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Solid advice for the drumming musician 3 septembre 2009
Par Maniez Philippe - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
Throughout this highly unusual yet useful book, Mr Persip displays the knowledge gained by being one of the most in-demand players of the New York jazz scene.

In a variety of chapters, each dedicated to tackling one particular musical issue, Mr Persip distributes sound, accessible advice for the working drummer, or anyone wishing to make music with his drumset for that matter. As the title indicates, concentration is not on drumming, but on what surrounds drumming in a musical context and in everyday life, with very little space alotted to the rudimental practice of the instrument.

Chapters include sections on the history of the instrument, its placement within the rhythm section, practice, sight-reading, keeping in shape, drumset maintenance, accompanying and listening and time (among others). Advice is handed over to the reader in a down-to-earth fashion, and tips become instantly applicable to playing in groups, rehearsing and the like.

A solid read for anyone wishing to enhance one's vision of the drumset though sound and logic advice, aiming only to enhance one's musical presence on the most ancient of jazz instruments.
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Not much to it; one drummer's take 27 décembre 2012
Par Mr. Chris - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
The short:
I've been playing drums for about 5 years now with a musical background much longer than that. I have over 30 educational materials (books, dvds) on the subject. I would never call myself an expert, but I'm definitely a drumming dork. My final message concerning this product is that there are better resources out there. I would not recommend anyone spend money on this. There's really just not much to it.

The long:
A friend and fellow drummer had lent me this book. The introduction is somewhat entertaining, but the meat of the book seems to be lacking anything that I would call useful. This book may be just what the doctor ordered for a struggling novice drummer, but even then, I would recommend a handful of other resources before this book. A lot of the information (in particular, the KIND/TYPE of information, e.g. advice on practicing, tuning, etc.) in this book is included in other, larger works as foot-notes or asides. For instance, one could find maybe 5-times the amount of advice given in this book in Jojo Mayer's dvd, "Secret Weapons for the Modern Drummer" in the miscellaneous section at the end of the dvd. Gavin Harrison's works include much of the same kind of information. (Even those works should be looked at as very-experienced drummers' individual takes on specific areas.)

One should realize that this is one drummer's take on the craft. Yes, it is from the perspective of a very successful drummer, but I've witnessed a lot of "opposite" ways of thinking from equally-successful drummers. Drumming is probably the most "to-each-his-own" instrument out there. For instance, there's not too many ways to play a trumpet, and anything that's debated in trumpet-playing is probably on the level of nit-picking. With drumming, however, not only are there different ways to hold the stick and different ways to tune and arrange the sub-instruments, there are different takes on just about anything regarding approach, implementing rudiments, listening, etc.

The titular idea itself: "how not to play drums" isn't really addressed much beyond the first few pages. After that, Mr. Persip gives advice on how to approach the drums. The ideas he presents are macro to the point of not being helpful (in my opinion). Beyond that, there are a lot of things he ~sorta~ advises against (rudimental playing, playing on a practice pad to name a couple) that I've found 1) endorsed by great drummers and 2) have improved my drumming quite a bit over the years. This goes back to the "to-each-his-own" idea. His advice is very personalized, and that's fine if the reader realizes that. I have to caution that some of these scenarios might be [Charli never tried this, and he was successful without it, therefore it's not necessary] rather than [Charli tried these 4 things, and found this one to be better for him, and here's why]. For instance, he downplays work on a practice pad, but I can't say for certain whether his take on it is based off of experience or armchair drum philosophy. The stuff that I would consider GOOD in this book is so short, macro, and covered elsewhere in the educational material realm that I don't think of this book as value-added or necessitating a spot on any musician's bookshelf. Sorry, I just don't.

What I do recommend (topics where I feel this book wanted to cover but fell short):
Fundamentals:
Anything by Tommy Igoe. Period. Especially Great Hands For A Lifetime. Getting Started on Drums is also very good.
General playing advice:
Youtube... Gavin Harrison...
Rhythm stuff:
Gary Chester's "New Breed"; Gary Chaffee's "Time Functioning Patterns".
Other:
Jojo Mayer's DVD is expensive, and I don't hold it as gospel, but it more than makes up for it in the quantity and quality of information. Ask for it for Christmas.
Jazz:
The Art of Bop Drumming (book) and The Master Drummer (dvd), both by John Riley. Also the "Complete Drummer's Vocabulary" by Alan Dawson, and (via association) "Syncopation."

Here's some nit-picking stuff:
The comment about this being "not for drummer only." I'm going to say that's outright incorrect. There's maybe 3% of this book that could be applied usefully to another instrument, so why bother?
There's a section in it where he talks about being physically and mentally healthy. In that section he throws in a bit about how studying astrology (yes, like horoscopes) is a good way to become more aware of other people's emotions. I found that... weird...
If he had this edited or proof-read, then that person did a crap job. This book is full of run-on sentences and comma splices. I know I'm not the picture-perfect writer, and grammar doesn't have much to do with drumming; however, I would hope that the package is well-thought-out enough to where details are managed a little better.
excellent inspiring drumteachings by one of the modern jazz drum experts 28 janvier 2014
Par Michàel Brandt - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
Charlie Persip, who played a lot of good drums with Dizzy Gillespie, sonny Rollins, Eric Dolphy and in his own Big band
wrote an excellent book on drumming with a lot of good advice and marverlousexcercises.
Highly recommended for anyone who wants to deepen his understanding of playing drums and study with effective condensed rudimental drumming that involves four limbs.
Warm greetings.
Michael
Although Charlie IS a master drummer in my book, ... 18 février 2015
Par FDBrushes - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
Although Charlie IS a master drummer in my book, this book left a lot to be desired. I think had he added a dvd of his concepts to the project it would have been much more beneficial.
Good drummer but boring book 24 avril 2013
Par S. Tworowski - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
I love the drummer Charli Persip, he's really cool and a very talented musician but this book was not interesting TO ME !
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