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Choque: The Untold Story of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil 1856-1949 (Anglais) Broché – 10 avril 2014

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History of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil Volume 1: 1856-1949 Volume 2: 1950-1960 Volume3: 1961-1999

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Choque Reviewed 16 juin 2014
Par tobaksa - Publié sur
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This book is a tough one to rate. If you are looking for the ultimate reference for fighting in Brazil during the years covered (a second volume will take up were this leaves off) look no further. But if you are a casual reader, this probably isn't for you. Roberto has scoured the source material, newspapers and magazines, and tracked down more or less every fight, professional, amateur, and street, that made the papers. For the latter half of the 19th century those fights would have been capoeira, luta romana, or luta livre. Don't worry, he provides translations from the Portuguese. Actual Jiu-Jitsu makes its first appearance in 1904, but over the next forty-five years there is plenty of cross traffic.

For those who want or need a book like this, it is a five star; it will never be supplanted. For everyone else, despite the author's best efforts to liven up the material it is a long, dry slog. I have compromised by giving it four stars, partly because (disclaimer) the author is a friend, but mostly because it is the product of impressive research, which deserves recognition.
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A superb example of what martial arts scholarship must be 18 juin 2014
Par Philos - Publié sur
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Readers of martial arts literature or viewers of martial arts instructional videos are (or should be) dissapointed of the level of exaggeration, hyperbole, misrepresentation, propaganda, story-telling and self-promotion which is rampant in the martial arts literary and "videographic" community.

Just think about the number of books and, above all, instructional videos which suddenly "rediscoveried" grappling and ground fighting in their classical martial styles after the BJJ and NHB revolutions were begun by the Gracies at the 90s!

Fortunately, there are members of the martial arts community which are serious scholars and researchers. Without a question, Roberto Pedreira is one of them.

Choque is not an easy read. And probably, most grappling and BJJ "enthusiasts" would find it very boring.

But for the scholar, academic or researcher of the history of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, this book is a must read.

The book is organized chronologically and Pedreira documents each single important event (related to BJJ in Brazil) which happened in each year.

A lot of notes and independent references are used to document the facts mentioned by Pedreira. Also, it seems to be that Pedreira tried to hard to present and organize the facts, while keeping his own opinions or interpretarions of the facts at the minimum level.

This aspect tends to make Pedreira's style of writing a little bit "dry", emotionless and uninteresting from a formal, purely literary point of view. But in turn, such approach tends to preserve the objectivity of the narrative.

An important aspect which is missing from Pedreira's book is an in-depth discussion of the origin of the "techniques" of BJJ. Pedreira correctly notes and implies that the Gracies were taught a version of the Kodokan Judo which existed in that moment. This is well-known for any informed person interested in the history of BJJ.

But we want and need more specifics. For example, in some internet forums and blogs, people have begun to ask exactly what is the historical source of the so-called "stand up self-defense" program of 36 lessons taught by Helio Gracie and his sons. Or what are exactly the "modifications", if any, that Helio (or Carlos or George) produced in the jiu-jitsu (judo) that they learnt.

It is paradoxical to note that Helio's jiu jitsu is presented by himself and his sons as a "street self-defense" martial art (not just a sport) and the main techniques taught by him are "stand up self-defense techniques" (see Helio's book Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and the video "episode one" which presents the original 36 lessons taught in the Gracie Academy. Most of such techniques are standing up!), when his family is known worldview for dismissing as highly ineffective most traditional standing up martial arts and promoting the combat philosophy of "close the distance, take the opponent to the ground and finishing him there" (ground fighting) as the best combat strategy.

So, although BJJ includes stading up techniques, without a question it is known as primarily a ground fighting art. In fact, for all practical purposes "BJJ" has become equivalent to ground fighting in many circles.

Pedreira could be excused from such omission on the grounds that he's not presenting an in-depth account or biography of Helio or Carlos Gracie. Or perhaps, given that his book only address documented facts and there is not documented facts which answer the questions posed above, he couldn't address them specifically.

I guess it is what Pedreira would say. So, even though I wished to find an in-depth discussion of such things, I don't think such omission undermine at all the value of Choque.

In any case, I think adding a chapter in Choque (perhaps in volume 2?) about these "technical" questions would be a helpful and original contribution to a missing, interesting and much neglected aspect of the history of BJJ.
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This book will change the way you think about the ... 26 août 2014
Par Victor - Publié sur
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This book will change the way you think about the gracies!! I'm sure some of their family wouldn't want people to read this...
Nothing but pure fact in this book.
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Deeply disappointing pseudo-scholarship 4 novembre 2014
Par Jeff M. Shaw - Publié sur
Format: Format Kindle Achat vérifié
I was really excited about this book, since I love jiujitsu history. But I was very disappointed in the book's biased and bewildering attacks on some of the most important figures in jiujitsu. What's worse: this was advertised as a serious study based on newspaper stories of the era. If this were the case, I would've been happy. Instead, there are many claims without evidence as the author grinds what appears to be his personal ax.
Must read for Bjj lifers 20 décembre 2014
Par Josh Vogel - Publié sur
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Great book. A really fascinating look beyond the history of Gracie jiujitsu that we hear about in class, hear in interviews and read about on the web.
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