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Church and State II [Anglais] [Broché]

Dave Sim
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  • Broché
  • Editeur : Aardvark-Vanheim (juillet 1988)
  • Langue : Anglais
  • ISBN-10: 0919359116
  • ISBN-13: 978-0919359116
  • Dimensions du produit: 19,4 x 25,6 cm
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Cosmogonie 15 mai 2009
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Évidemment ce tome est la suite de Church & State et je vous déconseille de lire celui-ci sans avoir lu celui-là. Cerebus revient à Iest et utilise des canons pour reprendre le dessus sur Thrunk et se réaccaparer la papauté. Les pièces d'or offertes à Cerebus commencent à avoir un comportement étrange. Cerebus divorce de Red Sophia, se marie avec Astoria, consomme le mariage et divorce aussitôt après. Il juge Astoria pour le meurtre du pape de l'Ouest (le Lion de Serrea) ce qui provoque d'étranges résonances temporelles. Il effectue l'Ascension et rencontre un personnage (étrange croisement de Uatu le Watcher de Marvel et Jules Feiffer) qui lui raconte l'origine de l'univers (première version de la création selon Dave Sim), et qui lui révèle le futur de l'humanité, ainsi que son propre avenir. Voilà pour la trame narrative, excusez du peu.

Encore une fois, il est impossible de réduire l'extraordinaire foisonnement d'idées et l'ampleur de l'univers de Cerebus en quelques lignes. Une liste d'exemples choisis de manière très partiale et orientée peut donner un aperçu de la richesse des thèmes et des situations. On croisera ainsi SecretWarRoach (une parodie de Secret Wars: Omnibus), une parodie très drôle du Batman de Frank Miller dans
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Aardvark in the Dark Ages aspires to epic 17 août 2000
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This ambitious series must have started as a drunken dare. Dave Sim, sometime in writing his black and white comic book about a mercenary aardvark, decided to make it a 300 issue epic, complete with his aardvark becoming pope and meeting God. This book (the second of the Church and State arc) is generally considered Sim's best work, before he suffered the Woody Allen syndrome of abandoning the plot and satire-driven formula that drove his success for plodding, self-involved storylines. This book pokes fun at everyone, including the Rolling Stones, Groucho Marx, Elric, the entire Catholic church, and yet somehow manages to have an interesting interaction with God.
The only caveat I would warn readers with is this: reading this book is going to make you want to buy the rest of this series, and that's going to get expensive.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Exciting times for the earthpig 8 novembre 2009
Par wiredweird - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This massive book, over 600 pages, collects issues 81-111 of the original comic series. If you're new to the Cerebus saga, I suggest that you begin at the beginning. The twenty-five year, three thousand page total builds as it goes, and these later chapters make more sense if you know the history and context of each character. Or, you could just jump in and let the complex machinations of plot and personality wash over you.

This black and white comic works at many levels. Visual realism comes and goes, lettering conveys more feeling than whole pages of artwork in some other comics, and page layouts challenge the reader who's only seen the row-of-blocks kind before. Copious nods to popular culture include Lord Julius (a Groucho Marx lookalike), a parody of Mick Jagger, references to mainstream comics, and a startling, surreal cameo by the Flaming Carrot. Many of the original monthly magazines included backup features by other artists, and FC was one of those. Unfortunately, the backup features and brief rants that introduced each issue never made it into this compendium, so the new reader must simply accept that episode as another mystery. Of course, the real attraction comes from Cerebus himself, the scrappy aardvark who somehow finds himself supreme leader of a theocratic nation-state. Intrigue in the pope's court alternates with dream-like sequences, fast action takes turns with dream-like philosophical interludes, and broad humor lightens many moments that could otherwise have dragged.

Cerebus also holds a distinctive place in the indy comics movement. Dave Sim was certainly not the first to step outside the oligopoly of the comics world in the late 1970s or early 1980s. He was (and remains) one of the most successful small publishers, however, and an inspiration to many that followed. That bit of history just adds to the enjoyment, though. If you want something different from the spandexed superheroes, give this a shot. You might find yourself a fan, too.

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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Aardvark Evolution 10 février 2006
Par J. C. Foster - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
***This review contains spoilers***

I've only recently gotten into Cerebus, and I can't get them fast enough. I thoroughly enjoyed volume 1. High Society was interesting in the development of the story and character, though I didn't really connect with it the way a lot of people did. Then I got to Church and State and was blown away. I finished part 2 in one marathon session, reading years worth of material in just hours.

It's not often I've read a comic that made me sit back and say "Wow." It's also not often to read a comic where the main character rapes someone and you STILL like him, even though he isn't supposed to be likable. Many people seemed to be turned off by the decidedly darker tone the story takes, but I found it fascinating. Cerebus was truly evolving.

The biggest change was that Cerebus was no longer some asexual celibate. The storylines were even more mature than before, with Cerebus emerging as a lustful, sexual being, capable of emotions more complex than just annoyance and anger. His relationships with all the various women in the story were all well designed and almost tragic in that everything Cerebus gets involved with always ends in the worst possible way. He blows his relationship with Michelle by listening to the wrong person. He's married to Sophia and doesn't love her, yet he is afraid to leave her. When he finally realizes his true love is Jaka, he can't have her. It's quite sad, actually.

The artwork is better than ever. Cerebus is no longer just a gray blob, but now has some muscular definition, making him seem even more real. And the backgrounds are just stunning, many of which are shown with no dialogue at all.

And then there's the ending. What a punch to the gut. The Judge's last words to Cerebus cut like a chainsaw, and the final scene of Cerebus returning to the destroyed city, walking the empty streets is just haunting. I haven't been able to get it out of my head. And while the overall story of Church and State may not be as overtly funny as what came before it, it's still funny in it's own way. Some people are turned off by Cerebus's harsh behavior, but I thought it was great. After being manipulated for so long with disastrous results in High Society and Church & State 1, he unleashes his rage like a hurricane once he becomes the pope. I thought it was just perfect.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Cerebus goes experimental 22 mars 2011
Par Ventura Angelo - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
Whilst the first part offered great art and a coherent , poignant narrative, this second part, whilst it has the great art of gerhard, it's convoluted, heavyly symbolic and cerebral. Really, the first volume would have sufficed.I give this "phone Book" three stars only for Gerhard's art.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 The peak of Cerebus art 3 novembre 2010
Par Niugui Cilantron - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
Yeah, sure, the Roach is annoying in this one, but the rest of the book makes up for it. Astoria is developed as such a sympathetic character that we almost might think Dave himself was a "Kevillist," although, unless his political ideas mutated along with his religious ideas during the writing of Cerebus, this is probably not the case. Trippy dream sequences! First appearance of Cirin! She looks a bit...odd, doesn't she? And concluding with the Judge's relatively innocuous tale of the male void and the female light (as opposed to the later "female void/male light" scenario). I'm going to have to buy some Flaming Carrot comics. Spin!
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