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Jesus Potter Harry Christ: The Surprising Parallels that Expose the Truth about the Historical Jesus, the Christ Myth, and the Secret Origins of Christianity (English Edition) [Format Kindle]

Derek Murphy
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Jesus Potter Harry Christ identifies the similarities between Jesus and Harry, to demonstrate that both J.K. Rowling's magical series and the biblical gospels are literary fiction
based ancient mythology and astrological symbolism.

"For those whose minds can ask questions freely without
the enforcement of dogma, Derek Murphy raises a genuine argument which
Christian apologists have no answers to besides merely repeating their dogmatic
convictions in the hope that re-asserting the dogma will confirm it as truth."
--John Thomas Didymus, Goddiscussion.com


"Whether or not one agrees with Murphy's ultimate position,
and whether or not one agrees with his arguments that Jesus was entirely
(rather than mostly) mythic, Jesus Potter Harry Christ is well worth wading
through, and wade through it one must, simply because of the sheer mass and
volume of evidence the author provides. Make this a book whose pages you
dog-ear for further reference and second readings." --Tim Callahan, Skeptic
magazine's religion editor and author of the books "Bible Prophecy" and "The
Secret Origins of the Bible"



"Murphy sifts through various mystery religions and myths
of a dying and resurrecting god, and their possible influence upon the Gospel
story. For once, it's done tastefully and without sensationalism. Maybe you've
read works by Freke, Doherty, and Harpur. Without trying to
foist a Gnostic version of Christianity on me, and without succumbing to
overzealous scholarship, Murphy gently yet forcefully introduces the strong
similarities between Christianity and other first-century religious
philosophies and mystery cults, concluding in the strong likelihood that Jesus
was a mythical savior." --Lee Harmon, author of "Revelation: The Way it
Happened"



"In the newly-released (and blasphemously-titled) Jesus
Potter Harry Christ, Derek Murphy makes the case that J. K. Rowling -- the
author of the Harry Potter series -- achieved her success by tapping into some
of the deepest and most ancient longings of the human heart. These same
longings, Murphy argues, compelled first-century pagans to construct what he
calls "the Jesus myth." Murphy points to similarities between the Gospel
accounts of Jesus' virgin birth, His passion and His return from the grave with
the myths of pagan idols like Isis, Sarapis, Horus and Apollo, Murphy hopes to
convince his readers that Jesus -- just like the gods of mythology -- is fiction.
In fact, he believes that Jesus is just an amalgam of history's best myths." --Chuck
Colson, Christian leader and cultural commentator

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  • Editeur : Holy Blasphemy (13 février 2011)
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Brilliant. 23 avril 2014
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This book is not a pamphlet. The author does not set out to attack and destroy Christianity. On the contrary; he analyses with a great depth of thought the origins and development of the Christian religion, without simply repeating the same old story from the Gospels, the Acts, and Eusebius' History, but by a rational, patient, step-by-step historical analysis. The research is well-documented and comprehensive; and even if the title may sound as a joke, even though the parallel drawn between HP and JC may seem far-fetched, the reasons for it become quickly apparent and HP soon gives way to the main topic.

I found in this book some answers I had been grasping after for years of research, reading and meditation. I can only recommend it to everyone, Christian or not, fan or not of HP, who is interested in the origins of our world, but also in its future. For as someone else said, "those who do not know the past are condemned to repeat it."
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Give the Idea a Chance 15 mai 2011
Par Cheryl A. Chatfield - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
After reading Murphy's book but before writing this review, I wanted to check out Holy Blasphemy Press. I accept atheism as a valid philosophy for anyone making an intelligent decision and I wrote about this in my own work, rejecting the old, dictator god that many of us grew up with and replacing that image with a kindler, gentler, forgiving energy that accepts and loves all. Writing about spirituality, though, makes me curious about those who claim to be atheists.

I read the description of Holy Blasphemy Press, and find that I agree with much of what they said. I, too, want a better God than the "tyrannical and violent" one often portrayed. I agree with their statement, "...we also respect each individual's right to seek their own spiritual meaning - as long as they don't impose it on everyone else or demand special privileges or policies." I checked out the author, Derek Murphy, too. He seems to be an open, philosophical individual with whom one might have a rational, intelligent spiritual conversation. With that understanding, I could continue my review.

The research in this book is very impressive. Murphy covers so much material. He spends more time promoting the facts of Jesus as a literary figure than discussing Harry Potter, but he clearly makes his point of the similarities of the two figures. Both Jesus Christ and Harry Potter had miraculous births, childhood miracles, and miraculous powers; battled with evil; were sacrificed in death with a rebirth or resurrection; and dealt with the symbolism of seven, Jesus in the Seven Seals of the Book of Revelation and Harry with his seven magical tasks in Books 6 and 7.

Why the comparison to Harry Potter? Many other literary figures, such as Moby Dick, Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings and McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, also endured suffering ending in a sacrificial death with a perceived rebirth and resurrection. I like Murphy's choice, however, since Harry Potter, has become popular with a major influence on our youth. Murphy's premise presents a new twist on an old story. J.K. Rowling used the same myths that preceded Jesus in creating her characters. A fresh look at the story of Jesus Christ is timely. A comparison to Mr. Potter is a unique way to do that. Murphy's implied sense of humor and perspective add to a much-needed discussion that often becomes too austere and heavy.

He establishes that there is no historical proof that Jesus Christ existed. He acknowledges that there is no proof that Jesus Christ didn't exist. Individuals are left to believe or not. Murphy states that he just wants to establish some historical record. The main stories of the Old and New Testament are restated pagan myths, referring to such figures as Osiris, Gilgamesh, Orpheus, Mithras and many others, some of which existed over a thousand years before Christ. The birth date, the death time, the suffering and the resurrection are not unique to Jesus.

I read much of this research years ago and came to the conclusion that Jesus may have lived, although that evidence is sketchy, but that he was not a divine being born on December 25 and resurrected on the date we celebrate as Easter. I am amazed at the amount of historical facts gathered by Murphy and reminded that so little of this information is widely known today. How could people ignore all of this evidence? And the myth continues with such a blind side to the facts. I like Murphy's response that all he is doing is presenting the information; it is up to the readers to make a decision. I agree.

I especially enjoyed his section on the history of Christianity with the political overtones of its rise to prominence. This is reminiscent of choices in our world today that are political rather than the right thing to do or an intelligent decision, although sometimes they are all three. In 325 CE, Emperor Constantine took power in the Roman Empire. He protected Christianity and wanted unity in the religions. He tailored Christianity to the pre-existing pagan customs. By 380 CE, Christianity was made the official religion and by 435 pagan temples were destroyed. The rise of Christianity was a political, not a religious or spiritual, decision. That part of history needs to be remembered, along with many other facts.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Who did Jesus copy? 12 septembre 2011
Par Chris Albert Wells - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché|Achat vérifié
Displaying Potter's biography as reminiscent of Jesus' is the bait that catches the reader. Murphy then asks a most serious question: "Is the Jesus story just as fictional as Potter's and based on previous myths? After having argued against the dictated historical Jesus and that Jesus is not beyond the scope of rational inquiry, Derek Murphy shows how non-specific Jesus really was by sharing a wonderful collection of much earlier heroes everyone accepts as imaginary, (occasionally based on a real person) and whose biography belonged to the enchanted circle of similar extraordinary deeds. The author also introduces his readers to ancient astrological symbols that explained the world and how they became a universal language used in mythical essays and found their way into ethical and spiritual teaching.

The author makes it clear that most of the Jesus Messiah claims have parallels in earlier belief systems. His arguments that struggling and established christianity incorporated pagan symbols into practice, iconography and texts is enlightening.

I feel however that Derek Murphy over-emphasises pagan influences on the original synoptic compositions.

Before being exported and presented to the world, the Jesus party was elaborated within a pious dissident Jewish sect. They did not need to refer to outside mythologies because they already had at their disposal abundant prophetic material offered by the OT (that also contains middle-eastern legends). They used it extensively, each evangelist manipulating the original gospel according to maturing religious-political needs.

Within this pious and divided community, Jesus, a messiah symbol personifying the avant-garde, was to take over from Elijah, the Temple's messianic candidate for the end of days. The debate was not trivial and had to shake off centuries of enduring thought and propaganda. In doing so, Jesus borrowed extensively from his competitor Elijah, his Galilean ballade even making him walk in his footsteps.

Jesus borrowed from Elijah just as much as Potter borrowed from Jesus. The references to Elijah are innumerable and point to a literary fiction. In all these references, Jesus is competing against Elijah, copying him, eliminating him or surpassing him. On the other hand, the innumerable borrowings from Isaiah, a great sectarian favourite, are used differently and help offer Jesus a scriptural legitimacy. At stake within this Jesus-community were also legal issues formulated by "The son of man is master of the Sabbath". They wanted obsolete rules to change. A new Jewish political party, Essene-minded, united under the Jesus banner and rivalling against stubborn traditionalists, was quarrelling, taking over, but gaining little credit outside the original walls.

Without Paul, it would probably have remained a dissident and marginal Jewish sect divided between two currents revering an ancient founder and lawgiver some perceived as a new Moses and a new messiah outcasting the Temple and their clique. Basic politics!

With these reserves, Derek Murphy's book will surprise, amuse, gain the reader's interest and ignite controversy by showing the myths and symbols religious literature used. His book is full of worthwhile information that will cast serious doubt on the unity and uniqueness of the Jesus cult.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 A Dubious Disciple Book Review 6 août 2011
Par Dubious Disciple - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
Was Harry Potter molded in the form of Jesus Christ? This book touches on the similarities between Jesus and Harry, but only as a surface introduction and running theme floating above a much deeper topic. The meat of the book is in its serious research into Jesus as a nonhistoric figure, a developed myth. Like our favorite little wizard.

This idea of a nonhistorical Jesus greatly disturbs most Christians. Murphy takes a stab at explaining our unease: "If Jesus was not historical, he would have been no different from other myths and fables ... he would be meaningless, and it is impossible for him to be meaningless, because he is meaningful to me. Therefore he is historical." He's right, the idea of Christ as a myth is more than a bit disconcerting; it hits at the very heart of many of us.

Yet Murphy's intent is not to demote Jesus to the role of an ordinary fictional being, or even an ordinary god. Jesus was never meant to be the same as other contemporary figures of mythology; to his storytellers, he was the epitome of such. "Jesus would be something entirely new simply by virtue of his being an assimilation of the best features of each. Jesus is the culmination and combination of all other religious traditions of his time."

Murphy sifts through various mystery religions and myths of a dying and resurrecting god, and their possible influence upon the Gospel story. For once, it's done tastefully and without sensationalism. Maybe you've read works by Freke, Dougherty, and Harpur. While I don't want to take anything away from those researchers--their books are interesting in their own right--I found Murphy's tempered treatment much more to my taste. Without trying to foist a Gnostic version of Christianity on me, and without succumbing to overzealous scholarship, Murphy gently yet forcefully introduces the strong similarities between Christianity and other first-century religious philosophies and mystery cults, concluding in the strong likelihood that Jesus was a mythical savior.

I cannot help but add my two cents. Part of Murphy's argument seems to be that it's unreasonable to expect first-century writers to knowingly attribute mythical qualities and stories to a historical person. Ergo, Jesus must have been understood mythically. I must confess that my area of research biases me in favor of a historical Jesus. I'm a hard sell, because for years I immersed myself in the topic of divine attributions awarded to real, historical persons in the Imperial Cult (the cult of the Caesars) and I recognize much of the New Testament as a response on the same playing field; Christians lifting up their guy in the same manner. I find nothing strange about honoring a man such as Jesus in supernatural story and find it a quite plausible explanation for the plethora of Jesus' similarities to pagan gods and heroes.

Additionally, in order for Murphy to prove Jesus was never a real person, so much hinges on Paul, our earliest Christian writer, and Paul is an enigma. Murphy points out many interesting similarities between the teachings of Paul and the mystery religions, where the central rite, it appears, was a symbolic death of the initiate, followed by rebirth into a new life. Sounds a lot like Paul, doesn't it? Murphy argues that Paul recognized Jesus' crucifixion metaphorically, and expected his converts to experience the same death. Unquestionably, Gnostic strands of Christianity did worship Jesus in the form of a mystery religion, and such groups did embrace the writings of Paul. But would such an understanding of Jesus drive Paul to such great suffering and imprisonment? Would it leave him absolutely convinced that the world was ending--quite literally and quite rapidly--and that believers in Christ would be swept up to heaven? Remember, Paul was so convinced the end of the world drew near that he even encouraged abstinence, telling his readers that the time grew so short that they needn't bother marrying.

So, even though it's hard for me to fully embrace Murphy's conclusion, I loved the book, and found it to be a fascinating and scholarly contribution to a very hot debate. It should be welcomed as such.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 More than just a Jesus Christ/Harry Potter analysis 28 avril 2011
Par Brian Hines - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
I'm impressed. A lot. I figured that "Jesus Potter, Harry Christ" would focus on the commonalities between Jesus Christ and Harry Potter, but Murphy's aims are a lot more ambitious. And interesting. In a highly readable yet semi-scholarly style, he sets out to examine the origins and evolution of Christianity, seeking evidence for a historical Jesus who is akin to the mythical figure revered by believers today. While unreal in an objective sense, Murphy demonstrates that the myths told in the New Testament and the Harry Potter series can point to personal truths that offer comfort, solace, and courage to anyone (which, really, is everyone) seeking to live life more fully, happily, and boldly.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Quite fascinating! 1 mars 2011
Par Clarice O'Callaghan - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Broché
The initial discussion of Jesus Potter Harry Christ - focusing on J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter books, the commonalities between Jesus and Harry Potter as literary figures, ancient and current controversies, and pagan gods and goddesses in mythological traditions - sets the stage for Murphy's comprehensive, fluid and riveting history of how and why Christianity rose and continued to develop through to the second Council of Nicea (787 AD). From Heraclitus to Plato, pagan and Jewish mythologies, readers are finally directed straight to the Apostle Paul and the instruction of his mysteries to congregations that laid the foundations of the early Christian world. Murphy's book is too broad to capture in a single review, but suffice it to say that a changed worldview can be effected for laypeople and biblical commentators who are interested in deepening their awareness of the connections between pagan, Jewish, and Christian history. Clarice O'Callaghan - The Jesus Mysteries Yahoo forum.
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