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  • CD (28 septembre 2004)
  • Nombre de disques: 1
  • Format : Import
  • Label: Mis
  • ASIN : B0002ZMJ70
  • Autres éditions : CD
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Liste des titres

Disque : 1

  1. The Love Song
  2. Peronsal Jesus
  3. Mobscene
  4. The Fight Song
  5. Tainted Love
  6. The Dope Show
  7. This Is The New Shit
  8. Disposable Teens
  9. Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
  10. Lunchbox
  11. Tourniquet
  12. Rock Is Dead
  13. Get Your Gunn
  14. The Nobodies
  15. Long Hard Road Out Of Hell
  16. The Beautiful People
  17. The Reflecting God

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113 internautes sur 125 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Rock is NOT dead - why Manson Matters 2 octobre 2004
Par Tim Brough - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Reasons the 90's needed Marilyn Manson:

Boybands. American Idol. Brittany Spears. Cher makes a comeback. So does Bon Jovi. Not to mention the Religious Right really needed an act to pin rock and roll as the devil's music on. So along comes a skinny disaffected young man with enough greasepaint to make Kiss blush and a stage show that would make Alice Cooper proud. Trent Reznor heard the news and jumped on board, and after a couple of interesting but inconsequential CD's, Manson hit paydirt with "Anti-Christ Superstar." Using the media to bend and distort the image of both the band (with the schizophrenic first/last psuedo-names) and the staged anger of "Beautiful People," Manson became an instant celebrity and a lightning rod.

And like the best shock-rockers and gender benders, Manson fed right off it. This is the kind of masterful heavyrock that scared the crap out of parents and gave adolescent rebellion a howling chariot of thud to ride off to school with. The darkness is for real here, but so is the musicianship. Manson's "Mechanical Animals" was his "Billion Dollar Babies," his "Diamond Dogs." The slinky "Dope Show" is as much a warning against overindulgence at the same time "Rock Is Dead" sardonically proved Manson's brand of bone crushing was definitely not!

Even better is that Manson is nowhere near as foolish or demonic as his biggest critics would make him out to be. The cheerleader hooks in "Fight Song" and "mOBSCENE" will bring a smile or two to the most jaded hard rocker, and covering new-wave dance staples like "Tainted Love" or "Sweet Dreams" takes more than a little chutzpah. (The cover of "Personal Jesus" doesn't stray far from Depeche Mode, nor is it near the revelation Johnny Cash's version is.) For those who ever caught him on "Politically Incorrect" or the occasional talk show (as well as Michael Moore's "Bowling For Columbine") would be able to tell you, the former Brain Warner is thoughtful, articulate and politically astute. The man who rakes society over the coals for creating a culture of "Disposable Teens" is also his own best defender.

"Lest We Forget" takes 17 statements and proves that Marilyn Manson (both the band and the singer) helped keep rock vital in the last decade and a half. That there are still factions out there that consider him "dangerous" matters plenty to me...not every maker of music needs to host a slick variety show to get a message out. If you don't have all the CDs, this is a great starter collection. In fact, it holds together with the muscle of a regular album. There aren't too many folks you can say that about.
39 internautes sur 43 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Blows against the empire by Manson 15 novembre 2005
Par Daniel J. Hamlow - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
I used to listen to Marilyn Manson, getting two of his albums before I readjusted my tastes in an effort to get closer to well...never mind that. However, upon seeing a clip of Manson do "Fight Song" on Bowling For Columbine, as well as some pointedly intelligent things he said to Michael Moore, I decided to get Lest We Forget, which had most of his popular songs. What I remembered were fierce metal sounds, roaring screams of outrage, packed with energy that makes Metallica sound like Savage Garden, and his scathing attacks on hypocrisy and decadence of the rich and supposed Christian righteousness.

"Love Song" is closely related to Columbine, allegorically about how if we care enough about each other, we won't need to rely on three bulwarks of hypocrisy. "Do you love your guns? God? The government?" asks the father to a bullet who has a crush on a little pistol.

In "The Fight Song," he implies how things are staged in the celebrity biz, that showbiz cuts stars' wrists and claim death was on sale. Notable lyric: "The death of one is a tragedy, but death of a million is just a statistic." Other cuts against establishment celeb world is "This Is The New Sh-t," on how new entertainment is packaged. The mimicry of those marketing the new sh-t is funny: "Babble, Babble, B-tch, B-tch/Rebel, Rebel, Party, Party/S-x, S-x, S-x, And don't forget the violence." It comes down to giving the enslaved people this new sh-t even if they don't need it, but they'll want it anyway: "Are you m--------ers ready for the new sh-t?/Stand up and admit tomorrow's never coming/This is the new sh-t/Stand up and admit/Do we need it? NO!/Do we want it? YEAH!"

His penchant for covering 80's songs is demonstrated by a new track, "Personal Jesus" by Depeche Mode, whose fuzz and industrial drumming sounds place it more in the Mechanical Animals era. "Tainted Love" from Not Another Teen Movie, with its bleeping synths and fuzzy glam wall of metal guitars, gives another version, that of My Ruin, a run for its money. His best known cover is that of a slowed down Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams," which he did on the Smells Like Children EP, and which made a brief appearance in Life As A House.

The brisk attack of "Beautiful People" from Antichrist Superstar showed him baring his teeth against the hatred and contempt shown by those with more money and prestige on those who don't. He uncovers something horrible when he screams: "Hey you, what do you see?/something beautiful and something free?/hey you, are you trying to be mean?/if you live with apes man, it's hard to be clean." Yeah, there are plenty of people who live with apes, all right.

The more glam stuff from Mechanical Animals, like "Rock Is Dead" also on The Matrix soundtrack, is still great, especially where he belts out the line of "f--- all your protests and put them to bed." The droning dirge of "The Dope Show" with its attack on the Hollywood set, where drugs are available to those famous ones, makes me wonder if there's not class and looks discrimination in drug use, as the rich and handsome are the ones who can afford them more.

Of the material post-Mechanical Animals, "mOBSCENE" from Golden Age of Grotesque is the one of the hardest-driving and best songs he's done, and the female cheerleader chorus singing "be obscene, be be obscene!"

"Disposable Teens" is a condemnatory anthem against lies and the perceived sell-out of the previous generation, with vitriol such as "I'm a teen distortion, survived abortion" and "never really hated a one true god/but the god of the people I hated/you said you wanted evolution, the ape was a great big hit/you say you want a revolution, man

and I say that you're full of s---."

Pretty extreme stuff where Manson's slashes against the establishment are done with a ferocious mixture of metal and bestial roars. Yet I already see some notable omissions. From Antichrist Superstar, the title track and "1996," which Senator Joe Lieberman condemned-one of my reasons for getting AS in the first place. And what of his cover of Bowie's "Golden Years" from the Dead Man On Campus soundtrack, as well as his version of AC-DC's "Highway To Hell" from Detroit Rock City?

I close with these lines from "Fight Song", an anthem for many to follow, lest we forget: "But I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist. But I'm not a slave to world that doesn't give a sh-t."
24 internautes sur 25 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
New Fans Only Please 29 septembre 2004
Par Nick Watkins - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Being a moderate fan of Manson (I have all his CDs, but he's not my favorite or anything, though I do consider him extremely talented), I bought this CD upon its release day but I bought the version with the DVD because I basically have all the songs already except for "Personal Jesus" and "Tainted Love". The DVD version costs a few extra bucks, but considering it features all of Manson's videos, what's a few bucks?

As I said before, I have all of Manson's CDs, therefore I have basically all the songs on here, so if you already have all of Manson's CDs then you're waisting your money and basically buying all the same songs again. However, this is a perfect place for new fans to start as it covers his entire career and fans can pick their favorite songs, find out what album they're from, and check that particular album out. Or, if you're lookig for just one Manson CD to buy, this'll do (though I highly suggest picking up his other CDs because some of his best songs were not 'hits').



-Again, a good starting place for new fans

-"Tainted Love", which I did not have before

-"Long Hard Road Out of Hell" is on this CD, so you don't have to go out and buy the pretty much crappy "Spawn" soundtrack to get it (like I did)

-An FBI "Anti-piracy" sticker to scare off thieves! (*sarcasm*)


-ALL OF MANSON'S (already released) HITS ON ONE CD!...

-...except for his cover of Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus", which is pretty dull and defintly not worth buying the CD for just that one song. However, if you want a good, hard-rockin' cover of "PJ", check out Lollipop Lust Kill's one (and only) album "My So-Called Knife". They too cover the song. It's #10 on that CD and I like it way more than Manson's version.

-The booklet is unsatifying. When Rob Zombie released "Past, Present & Future" he released it with a huge CD booklet full of old and new pictures, artwork, etc., whereas this basically has six or seven pages of Manson photos, no song information, no lyrics, basically no nothing.

-One of the few pictures in the booklet (it might only be on the DVD/CD version because that comes in a digipak and it's on the digipak sleve) shows two girls with "Marilyn" and "Manson" carved on their chests. SERIOUSLY, how much more like ketchup could that "blood" look?

So would I buy this CD if it were DVD-less? Definetly not. I recommend buying the DVD version to hardcore fans definetly and even new fans, as it has everything this version does PLUS all his vidoes (except "Astonishing Paranoia of the End Time" (sorry if I didn't get that song title right), "Tainted Love", "Personal Jesus", and the quote excluse unquote, highly talked about video for "(s)AINT". You can't only get "(s)AINT" if you order the CD/DVD package directly off his website from what I've heard, a pisser for me because I thought it came on all CD/DVD versions. Oh well...)
21 internautes sur 22 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Par Gunther Haagendazs - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Alright, here we have Marilyn Manson's Best Of Album. Now I think it's safe to say Marilyn Manson is one of my favorite bands, what with me having all their CDs, rare songs, DVD, Seen them in concert, know the meaning to every song, read Manson's book, etc. So you can consider this information which I present to you, to be accurate and reliable. When this was first released, I went online read things about it, wanting info on the DVD. There is a lot of content on it; however, there are about 4 or 5 music videos missing from the US version. The DVD is the main reason for looking at this product. I will try to show you the best version to get of Lest We Forget.


The CD has good songs on it, but if you really want a "Best of", then you'll have to get all his primary CDs. Most Best Of's, are simply filled with the top radio hits of the band. I'm not surprised that many of my favorite songs are missing like Dope Hat or Angel with the Scabbed Wings. I only listen to this disc every once in a while because it's fun to press the shuffle button, not expecting what is to come next. All the songs from Antichrist Superstar have also been remastered, sounding slightly different, most noticeably with the Beautiful People which sounds louder and has the volume of Gacy's keyboard cranked up noticeably. The one new song, Personal Jesus (originally by Depeche Mode) is a love it or hate it song by many. It's an alright cover, not Manson's best by any means but certainly not his worst. The CD also contains their cover of Tainted Love and A Long Hard Road Out of Hell, both of which have only been on Soundtracks and it's nice to finally have them on a real CD.


There are a variety of Imports out there, each with a slightly different track listing. There are two Imports you should be looking at, depending on your budget. The European/UK Import, has two bonus tracks, (S) AINT and Irresponsible Hate Anthem (also remastered). This Edition's DVD has the banned (S)AINT video and the Personal Jesus Video. These two videos can not be found on the US version and I think that's probably because both have nudity (mostly in (S)AINT). If this were sold in the stores, it would be like selling Pornography to kids. Even on this version there's a Dime sized 18 stamped on the front of the packaging. This is also the version I got and found it at amazon.co.uk for about $25, including shipping.

The only other Import that you should be looking at is the Japanese Import. Why do the Japanese always get the most content? The answer to that eludes me, but the Japanese get the two bonus UK tracks plus Coma White as a third. That is one of the songs that most people have complained as missing on the U.S. Version. It also has the DVD, nothing different It's exactly the same. Here is the real Kicker: The Japanese get a bonus disc of "Rarities!" It consists of seven remixes and a cover that can all be found on the internet or Singles. Here's the track list.

1. Next Mother****** (Remix)

2. The Not so Beautiful People (Remix)

3. The Horrible People (Remix)

4. Tourniquet (Prosthetic Dance mix)

5. I don't like the Drugs (but the Drugs like Me) (Danny Saber Remix)

6. Working Class Hero (John Lennon Cover)

7. The Fight Song (Slipknot Remix)

8. mOBSCENE (Sauerkraut Remix)

So it's eight songs, but none of them are terribly hard to find. Only get this if you have the money, get it used for a lower price, etc.


Plenty of content however there isn't a version that contains the videos for Tainted Love or Astonishing Panorama of the End Times. "Astonishing" has two versions, both of which are made by the guys from Celebrity Death Match, one is the band playing the song, the other is the band playing the song and are then interrupted by Ricky Martin and a hilarious fight begins. Not quite sure if the second counts as a video but it's definitely something Manson fans would want to see. Oh, and yes the DVD is REGION CODED!!! I still don't understand the need for Region Codes, but make sure your DVD player is not REGION CODED. Luckily both of mine are not. I once brought it to a friend's house and it did not work there. Look up information on Region Codes and then check your DVD player.


Easter Eggs are always a fun thing for DVD fanatics. They are little hidden treats, or bonus material. There are four; I have a 1000 word limit, so simply search the internet and you'll find them quickly. They can be found on all Versions with the DVD.

If you are new to Marilyn Manson, then I actually wouldn't suggest you start with this album like so many have said. Just pick any full length album and you'll get hooked. However some commercial genius thought it would be a good idea to make this CD/DVD version to be limited, so hunt this down quickly if you want it. Sure the US DVD is much easier to find, but if you are a big Manson fan then the Import is great to have in your collection. I'm sure a Box Set will eventually be released with the missing content but that won't be for a long time. Marilyn Manson makes the best music videos, most of them make very interesting points and tell good stories if you look at them closely. Well I hoped this Review helped a lot of you in figuring out which version to get. Good luck hunting it down, it's worth the effort.
23 internautes sur 25 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Highly recommended! 20 novembre 2004
Par CreepyT - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
I have been familiar with Marilyn Manson for many, many years, having heard his songs both on the radio and from various friends who owned his CD's. However, I had never bothered to pick up any of his albums myself. When he finally came out with this "best of" compilation, I thought it was the perfect opportunity to finally get my hands on some of his music, and this CD has experienced heavy rotation in my CD player since. Furthermore, I have proceeded to buy many of his previous albums as well. I'm kicking myself in the bum for not buying more of his material sooner.

This particular compilation shows just how far Manson has come, and how much his music has evolved, with included songs spanning the breadth of his career. Songs such as "Disposable Teens," "Beautiful People," and "Dope Show" have enjoyed a tremendous amount of radio play over the years, and should be recognizable to most people immersed in the hard rock genre. The covers, "Personal Jesus," "Tainted Love," and "Sweet Dreams," are great, as Manson has an incredible way of slightly twisting and, some may say, tainting the well-known material, making it uniquely his own. Thus making this one of Manson's more accessible albums, serving to "rope in" those who haven't yet jumped on the bandwagon. With the sales of this album still soaring, it's easy to see that Lest We Forget has done just that.

As for Manson and his music itself, there is much more to his songs than loud, thumping, head-banging beats and good guitar riffs. The intricate layering of harsh, though never grating, sounds is near brilliance. His witty and, at times, bitterly caustic, in-your-face social commentary noticeable in his lyrics is incredible and brutally honest. Though many have come to see him as a mere poster boy for disenchanted youth, nonconformity and vehemence towards "the establishment" and many of it's practices, there is much more to Manson than that. If nothing else, you've got to admire his individualism and willingness to show his true colors despite constant criticism by the more prudish members of society. This courageous and cavalier attitude shines through in everything Manson produces.

The bonus DVD is a great addition. It's too bad that the "Personal Jesus" video, as well as the banned (s)aint video (available only through his website) didn't make this cut, but the videos that are included are great. Mason's videos reek of lush creativity and vividly artistic individualism that, for the most part, really serve to accentuate the messages put forth through his lyrics. This near-complete video collection is definitely a must-have.

Overall, this album serves as a great addition to anyone's hard rock/industrial repertoire, as well as a great introduction to Marilyn Manson himself. However, know that these selections are mere highlights and just gently graze the surface of Manson's capabilities. This album will probably leave you craving more of what he has to offer.
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