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Nicholas Sekunda , Peter Dennis
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Macedonian Armies After Alexander 323-168 BC The death of Alexander the Great in 323 BC threw the Macedonians into confusion; there was no capable heir, and no clear successor among the senior figures in Alexander's circle. Initial attempts to preserve the unity of Alexander's conquests gave way to a period of bloody and prolonged warfare. For well over a century the largely mercenary armies of Alexander's successors imposed their influence ... Full description

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  • Broché: 48 pages
  • Editeur : Osprey Publishing (8 novembre 2012)
  • Collection : Men-at-Arms
  • Langue : Anglais
  • ISBN-10: 1849087148
  • ISBN-13: 978-1849087148
  • Dimensions du produit: 24,9 x 18,3 x 0,5 cm
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Les soldats des armées hellenistiques 15 janvier 2013
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Le « Men at Arms » Osprey intitulé « Macedonian Armies after Alexander, 323-168 BC », signé Nicholas Sekunda (texte) et Peter Dennis (illustrations), vient à point nommé pour appréhender les évolutions de l’armée macédonienne d’après Philippe II et Alexandre le Grand.

Si le texte de ce livre est court, les 8 planches de dessins qu’il contient sont absolument superbes. Les armées sont présentées selon un canevas classique : recrutement, organisation, armement, commandement et tactiques. Les spécificités propres aux armées Antigonides, Séleucides ou Lagides sont également évoquées.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 A conseiller 5 janvier 2013
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Produit conforme à la description qui en a été faite sur le site. Livraison toujours rapide et sans problème. Prix attractif. A recommander aux amateurs d'histoire du monde.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 An interesting introduction to an obscure (in archaeological terms) subject 20 mai 2013
Par No More Mr. Mice Guy - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This is an interesting introduction to an obscure (in archaeological terms) subject. The author has written extensively on this period, and appears to keep up with current archaeological developments. The colour plates are not very lively so only four stars. Bearing in mind the sources as given in the Plate Commentaries, that is hardly surprising, though some of the other Osprey series do manage to put a lot of life into their reconstruction.

The Contents are -
P03: The Historical Background
.The struggle for power following Alexander's death: the Diadochi - the Argeads - the Antipatrids - the Antigonids - Rome's decisive victory - the final revolts
P06: Historical Sources
P07: Army Staff
.Bodyguards - hyspaspistai - royal pages
P08: Cavalry
.clothing and equipment - recruitment- regiments
.Organization and strength
P13 Infantry
.The Macedonian pike - Macedonian shields - helmets - cuirasses
.Recruitment - organization - officers -chiliarchia - pay
.The phalanx regiments: peltastai - agema - chalkaspides - leukaspides
.Artillery
P38: Select Bibliography
P41: Plate Commentaries
P48: Index

The Colour Plates, pages 25-32:
A: Cavalry Inspection, c.325-300 BC: This shows three figures and a horse in front of some buildings, with another small figure of a man and a horse in the background - "figures A1 and A3 are based (sic) two similar Pompeian frescos from the 'House of Jason' and the 'House of the Golden Cupids', reproducing a painting of the 4th century BC."
B: Guard Cavalry, c.325-300 BC: This shows three figures lounging against a very colourfully-decorated wall - "Nearly all the figures in our Plates B- are based on the Agios Athanasios Tomb, dating to the last quarter of the 4th century BC. This tomb, discovered in 1994, lies close to Thessaloniki at the site of the ancient Herakleia on Axos."
C: Royal Page & Heavy Cavalrymen, c.325-300 BC: This shows three figures standing in font of a plain wall, but with three decorated shields on it.
D: Light Cavalry, c.325-300 BC: This shows two mounted figures in a landscape - "This plate reconstructs the two figures flanking the entrance to the Agios Athanasios Tomb."
E: Infantrymen of the Guard, c.325-300 BC: This shows three figures in front of some steps and big columns - "All three figures shown in this plate probably belong to the Macedonian regiment of foot-guards, given the prevalence of purple..."
F: The Macedonian Army, c.280 BC: This shows three figures in a highly-decorated room - "F1 is based on the Lefkadia Tomb... F2 and F3 are based on a Pompeian fresco from the 'House of the Meander', which copies a painting originally produced for Macedonian court in around 280 BC."
G: Lyson and Kallikles, c.222 BC: This shows two figures shaking hands in front of a architecturally interesting wall - "The tomb of Lyson and Kallikles was discovered in 1942... The tomb paintings include very detailed depictions of two sets of war-gear, which we reconstruct here on the two figures."
H: King Philip V and Amyntas, so of Alexander, 197 BC: This shows two mounted figures in a misty landscape, but with nicely painted grass - "H1 is based on two images of Philip V. The first is his equestrian portrait... Philip V's likeness is also preserved on a series of busts, derived from an original prototype. H2 is based on the funerary stele of Amyntas."

There are numerous monochrome illustrations, including coins, artefacts and photographs of wall-paintings, including many of those referred to in the Plate Commentaries.

Further Reading:
Andrea Palladio and the Architecture of Battle with the Unpublished Edition of Polybius' Histories
Alexander the Great Failure: The Collapse of the Macedonian Empire (Hambledon Continuum)
Hellenistic Infantry Reform in the 160s BC (Studies in the Ancient and Medieval Art of Warfare)
Philip V of Macedon
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 It's an Osprey on Macedonian armor and weapons 28 décembre 2012
Par Jeffrey A. Jonas - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Well, at first I was disappointed in this offering, but I have come to like it a bit more, even if I disagree with some of the author's conclusions, and how he projects them. Part of this is the format- which is an Osprey guide to arms and uniforms, and as such cannot be judged as 'history' book by any means. Sadly the few lines dedicated to explaining historical background negates room to thoroughly discuss the artifacts that are the basis of the reconstructions- that are the selling point of this and most all Osprey guides.

First off I would have given this volume a three star for the number of historical arguments presented by the author that are not precisely explained-- again given the limits of format. For example the author completely divests himself of the notion that there is a white shielded phalanx in the Macedonian army from Sellasia onward... and this goes against other source evidence, so I feel he needs to explain his position as to why he disregards direct statements in source such as in Plutarch's Cleomenes where the Spartans outfitted 2000 of their troops to match the white shielded Macedonian phalanx. Instead the author prefer to make the white shields into Thracians and other thureophoroi type troops based on an application of descriptions of Roman trophies. But again, such a thorough discussion would probably need to fill the whole book, which is a uniform guide, not a discourse in a Hellenistic History Journal.

The pluses here are the excellent plates by Peter Dennis who has reconstructed the various monuments with clarity, brilliant color, and precision. Some will argue with the hue of the purple cloaks, but that is yet another layer of pedantry, in the pedantic world of what color murex dye would have been. The reconstructions are linked to many of the actual extant source artwork and reliefs, so that is an excellent side by side presentation-- since if your opinion differs then at least these disparate items are linked together in one useful volume. Again, one can ponder if the author's conclusion that Lyson or Kallikles were infantry or cavalry officers with a grain of salt, whether I agree with that point is no real matter, since the reconstruction art is quite well done.

The author does include some of his good thoughts on the nature of Ash and Cornell wood for various weapons, and I think he slams the nail in the coffin of Cornell wood being used as a pike, especially given that Hammond long ago pointed out how the vast Ash forests of Macedon was her key export, and why Athens wished to control them.

So as a uniform guide this is an excellent book, which is why it is an Osprey format. As an introduction to Macedonian Successor history and military tactics-- sorry not here. (Remember that is what an Osprey is- a uniform guide mostly for hobbiests).. so if you are looking for a complete guide to Antigonid military history- this is not the place. What this will do is give hobbiests and some military historians something new to chew on, in an area where there are few similar volumes in print.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Very interesting, good hypothesis but quite speculative 21 janvier 2013
Par Anibal Madeira - Publié sur Amazon.com
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In this Osprey title, Dr. Sekunda, makes a very fine exposition on the known, distinguishable units of the Macedonian army after the demise of Alexander. This includes bodyguard and staff, infantry and cavalry units. How were they organized, where were recruited, what they wore and their equipment and weapons. Dr. Sekunda gives an as accurate as it possible is at the present time great introduction to this subject. With good analyses of recent finds and intelligent conclusions (like the cornel wood question and the Sarissa). That's what the back cover of the book promises "Drawing upon archeological sources...Dr Sekunda examines the organization and equipment of the core armies of the kings of Macedon..." - and it delivers with competence.

Now one question must be addressed. There is much speculation in this book. From very few sources (some are even copies of Hellenistic originals made in the Roman era!) the author delivers some conclusions that might be correct...or not! In a time that had almost no concept of uniforms (the rules only stated the type of equipment; e.g. a helmet, but not the specific type of helmet), assuming that a certain equipment or color represented on a certain identified unit member would be worn by the entire unit is risky. But I thank the author the excellent archeological material he publishes in this and other books; they are very good (even when thinking that we can't jump into conclusions).

Other question is the historical introduction. Other reviewer already mentioned it assertively and with very good knowledge of the period in question (JPS reviews are always important to read for questions related to military history). It is too difficult to make a summary of this period in three pages. In my opinion it's even impossible. This summarized version will lead the reader to wrong conclusions. Just as an example, here is what it haves about the third Macedonian war against Rome: "Perseus defeated a Roman army in Thessaly in 171, but the campaigns of 170 and 169 were stalemates, and he was finally defeated at Pydna in 168." The end. I believe that the story can be summarized in a rather different way: "After the impressive victory of Perseus in Callinicus (Thessaly) on the year of 171, the Macedonian king was defeated on Phalanna being forced to retreat to Macedonia. The Illyrians (at first neutral but quickly becoming Macedonian allies after Roman disastrous "diplomacy") faced the Romans initially with success at the siege of Uscana, but ultimately losing at Scodra. In a war of maneuver, the Romans managed to lock the Macedonian fortified forces at river Elpeus and circumvent them through Pythium where the Romans heavily defeated the Macedonians. This led to Perseus withdrawal to Pydna where he met his final decisive defeat". Here the impression is different; not a victory and then an unlucky defeat, but a systematic campaign where Perseus was pushed back gradually. Naturally I understand space constraints, but a good chronology would be more useful than the published truncated introduction.

The great military artist Peter Dennis didn't give much effort illustrating this volume. The Macedonians look almost all clones! They are so facially similar and in very similar positions that probably the artist was very hard pressed in time schedules. He usually makes much better pieces, but in his defense I must remark the accurateness of the equipment depicted. You will find the following plates: Cavalry Inspection c. 325 - 300 bc; Guard cavalry regiment c. 325 - 300 bc; Royal Page and Heavy Cavalryman c. 325 - 300 bc; Light Cavalry c. 325 - 300 bc;Infantryman of the Guard c. 325 - 300 bc; The macedonian Army c. 280 bc; Lyson and Kallikles, c. 222 bc (based on their tomb); King Philip V, and Amyntas, son of Alexandros, 197 bc. The interior art and photographs are great, providing excellent images of artifacts and paintings.

Recommended for those interested in knowing the armies of the Macedonians, but not recommended as a military history introduction to the Macedonians after Alexander (If that were the purpose of this book it would have less one or two stars).
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Me gustó 5 janvier 2013
Par Jorge Arturo Valles Teruel - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Es un buen libro, aunque sólo se centra en los ejércitos macedonios, no esperes encontrar algo sobre otros ejércitos del período helenístico.
5.0 étoiles sur 5 I really enjoy this kindle version 6 juillet 2014
Par Joseph L. Behringer - Publié sur Amazon.com
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As a fan of ancient history for this time period, this help to understand things as they transit from Greek to Roman dominance in the Mediterranean area. I really enjoy this kindle version.
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