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Offenbach / Rosenthal: Gaite Parisienne / Offenbachiana

8 juillet 1999 | Format : MP3

EUR 8,79 (TVA incluse le cas échéant)
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très bon enregistrement mais certains morceaux choisis ne correspondent pas au coté entrainant de la Vie Parisienne de cet auteur
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Par Julien le 1 septembre 2012
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Fermez les yeux et vous voilà sur les grands boulevards parisiens ! Très bon CD, à recommander aux amateurs d'Offenbach. Merci !!!
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Par Veilleur TOP 500 COMMENTATEURS le 24 juillet 2009
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D'Offenbach, on peut ne pas tout aimer. On peut même avoir envie d'écouter simplement un pot-pourri. Et c'est cela qu'a réalisé Samuel Rosenthal dans cette adaptation qui a pris nom de "Gaîté parisienne" et enregistré sous la baguette de son créateur par un orchestre de Monte-Carlo en pleine forme, bondissant et en verve.

Là, difficile de ne pas être séduit. Tout y passe à toute allure, faisant passer le temps d'écoute fort agréablement et laissant l'auditeur dans l'émerveillement. Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas Offenbach, ce disque est un best-of indispensable.
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Je considérerais toujours Gaité Parisienne comme une horreur nuisant à l'esprit d'Offenbach, dans quelque version que ce soit... C'est de Rosenthal et n'a d'Offenbach que des thèmes musicaux - massacrés par une orchestration lourde et une ré-harmonisation inutile.

Autant Rosenthal a fait des choses très sympathiques avec La Poule Noire par exemple, autant il a été extrêmement mauvais dans Gaité Parisienne et Offenbachiana.

Un meilleur hommage est disponible ici dans OFFENBACH IN DER UNTERWELT.
Fledermaus Trifft Unterwelt-Arrangements
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HASH(0x8d0437d4) étoiles sur 5 Not the best one Rosenthal recorded 3 juillet 2007
Par Classic Music Lover - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Manuel Rosenthal arranged this frothy ballet score from Offenbach melodies both familiar and obscure, so presumably this recording would be a definitive interpretation. Unfortunately, of the three recordings he made of Gaite, this one's just not competitive. Perhaps because he was in his mid-90s when he made this third recording, the performance is just so s-l-o-w, it no longer seems like a ballet, but rather a "tonal picture." Rosenthal's recording in the mid-1950s with the Berlin RIAS orchestra for Remington, and a later recording (late 1970s) for EMI (with the same orchestra as this Naxos CD, coincidentally) are just so much more effective.

One should give fair dues to Monsieur Rosenthal just for making the effort to wax this recording in his tenth decade ... but you can do better with his earlier renditions, as well as a number of other conductors who have made equally fine recordings of the complete Offenbach/Rosenthal score. Seek out Eugene Ormandy, Arthur Fiedler, Anatole Fistoulari, and even Georg Solti as useful alternatives.

A similar situation exists with the selections from "Offenbachiana" that serve as a filler on the Naxos CD. Rosenthal created this pastiche on a commission from Remington Records back in the mid-1950s ... and he recorded the complete score twice (first in Berlin at the time of its composition ... later on in France in the 1970s). Here, we we are given only about one-quarter of the score, and again it's played too slowly. Rosenthal's French full-score performance is available on an Ades CD.
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HASH(0x8ce52198) étoiles sur 5 Pretty Much The Definitive Account 19 mai 2005
Par Jeffrey Lipscomb - Publié sur Amazon.com
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The wonderful French conductor/composer Manuel Rosenthal (1904-2003) died one day short of his 99th birthday. A pupil and close friend of Ravel, Rosenthal left a wide variety of excellent recordings. This CD gives us "Gaiete Parisienne" from the source, for it was Rosenthal who in 1938 arranged this delightful pastiche based on Offenbach's operas.

Rosenthal recorded Gaiete Parisienne three times: in 1953 on a monophonic Remington LP, and then twice with the Monte-Carlo Orchestra (a 1977 recording for EMI and this one for Naxos, made when he was 92 years old!). I confess to owning all three recordings, each of which is somewhat slower than those by most other conductors.

Which ONE of those to own? They all have their merits, but if I could keep just one, it would be this Naxos CD. It has GREAT sound, it's apparently the only one available on CD at the moment, and it's coupled with Rosenthal's other famous Offenbach-based ballet score "Offenbachiana." Keep your eye out for the more complete version of the latter score, conducted by Rosenthal with the better Paris Opera Orchestra. That was available on a now deleted Ades CD called "Hommage A Manuel Rosenthal," and it contained about 15 minutes more music than this Naxos CD provides (including the nifty Apache Dance). I am also fond of the Urania LP version of Gaiete with celebrated Offenbach conductor Rene Leibowitz leading the London Philharmonic, but that has not yet shown up on CD. If it does, I would suggest buying that one as a supplement to this fine last effort by Rosenthal. Among the faster stereo CD accounts currently available, I would opt for Felix Slatkin's (EMI).

Highly recommended.
HASH(0x8d02160c) étoiles sur 5 ROSENTHAL RIVIERA TESTAMENT 17 novembre 2015
Par Cody Robert at Spokane - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Maestro Arthur Fiedler's definitive GAITE dates from 1954 and has not been surpassed for panache, brio and cheekiness--and the early stereo sound still has extraordinary presence and sparkle, somewhat lacking in this Rosenthal disc (which marginally bests the Fiedler for sheer Gallic finesse and the arranger-conductor's "au fond" authenticity). This release is a major highlight in Naxos' catalogue, for Rosenthal (1904-2003) was an extremely influential executant figure--and sometime composer--in modern French music. He came to America for a postwar stint with the Seattle Symphony, returning in the late 1980s for extremely demanding Ring cycles for Seattle Opera. He fulfilled exotic gigs in Buenos Aires and Tunis, made a belated Met debut and most importantly--beyond these famous operetta potpourris--was a pupil of Maurice Ravel. (Rosenthal's still-competitive Westminster [originally Vega] discs of orchestral Ravel have details of intonation, phrasing and fastidious elegance no other conductor, not even Monteux, can quite claim. The Vega tapes are glowingly remastered on Ades CDs.)

It's not difficult to make a case for Maestro Rosenthal, aged 92, conducting the second-tier Monte Carlo ensemble (its doyens had given the prewar world premiere of GAITE with the Massine corps de ballet) in the Riviera heat of July 1996 in his two biggest hit Offenbach olios. GAITE was assembled in 1938 and is actually the lesser if longer work here. Rosenthal's tempi are forgivably very broad but not somnolent (the sumptuous waltzes and the languid HOFFMANN barcarolle come off best), the digital sound engineering is slightly muffled in palpable Riviera heat-haze, and most listeners will prefer the brighter, sprightlier Fiedler can-can showpiece disc that wears its demonstration-quality years so well. Maestro Rosenthal explained, somewhat disingenuously, that these were his preferred and authoritative tempi for the racy score performed with full symphonic breadth, as against his and others' earlier accounts which were timed and tailored to the Massine company's performance requirements. Fiedler conducts balletically, Rosenthal symphonically, and collectors may have both versions very affordably.

OFFENBACHIANA dates from 1953, the arranger-conductor's peak prime, and here sounds like the greater and better work, more varied and reflective than GAITE, with the nonagerian tempi seeming perfectly apt and better recorded too. Alongside my prized Jane Rhodes (a Rosenthal collaborator) recordings this inexpensive release has a special place on my Offenbach shelf, a fine memento and final legacy from a genuinely endearing conductor.
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HASH(0x8d57b090) étoiles sur 5 Offenbach: Gaîté Parisienne; Offenbachiana 19 avril 2012
Par Bjorn Viberg - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Offenbach: Gaîté Parisienne; Offenbachiana is a 1996 Naxos recording under the direction of Manuel Rosenthal who leads Orchestre Philharmonique de Monte-Carlo. Jean-Luc Tingaud has written the music notes. An easy listening recording that I can definitely recommend. A very good recording for the novice listening to classical music. 4/5.
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HASH(0x8d61b4f0) étoiles sur 5 Sound of Offenbach 16 février 2007
Par Mitsuo Suzuki - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
This CD has an excellent sound, not noisy, fine condacting of Sound, Tempo

etc.
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