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Phottix Odin Déclencheur pour Canon

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24 internautes sur 24 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Same ETTL II control of a 580EX II as if it was on the camera but wirelessly from 360 feet 27 décembre 2011
Par Michel Biedermann - Publié sur Amazon.com
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I have a Canon 7D with a 580EX II flash. Tomorrow I'm returning my two PocketWizard FlexTT5s. I've replaced them with Phottix's Odin TTL system. Here's why:

1. The Flexes offer only very limited access to the camera's External Flash menu system. The only options you can access are the flash exposure compensation (FEC) and the type of TTL II (evaluative versus average). For what it's worth, both of my radios had PW's latest firmware (6.000) and I contacted their support department for advice. It took them less than a business day for them to reply that I would also need to buy an AC3 zone controller for this.
2. I can't put the Flexes on a standard tripod quick release plate. The male hot shoe beneath the Flex gets in the way of the screw in the tripod head or quick release plate. This is important for me because I usually travel with only one standard tripod and a Joby Focus so I need to be able to use either one to hold my flash when it's off camera.
3. In my setup, the range of Flexes was just about 90-92 feet.
4. The flash would only fire 1 in 3-4 shots at 45-50 feet when the remote Flex was hidden behind a small bush. I did not try to use the AC5 RF soft shield metallic sock because, though it might have extended my range it would not have solved problems 1 and 2.

Just so that I give you a point of reference, I expected my remote TTL flash trigger system to at least work as my flash does when it is in the hot shoe on the camera or connected to the camera via a TTL cable like the Promaster. I want to have access to the same menu options so that I can set these controls from my camera's LCD screen.

The Phottix Odin TTL Flash does all of this for the ETTL II mode, but it does it wirelessly. I haven't been able to find a way to set the flash to manual or multi-flash (strobe) mode FROM the camera. The options are available for selection, but the selection doesn't stick and jumps back to ETTL II default. Instead you have to set the manual mode and change the settings from the Odin Transmitter. I have yet to find a way to set the multi-flash mode either from the camera or the transmitter. I hope that Phottix will be able to update the firmware to enable these two modes. This would earn them a 5th star from me.

Here are other points of interest:
1. Range: in excess of 360 feet / 120 meters. I stopped measuring the distance beyond that since it would allow me to shoot at least in a basketball arena or at a track and field event.
2. Set the High-Speed Synch and 2nd Curtain Synch either from the camera or the Odin transmitter.
3. High-Speed Synch allowed me to shoot at 1/8,000 sec. It's awesome the creative options I have when shooting with a flash at that speed.
4. Change the FEC of up to three flash groups on the Odin transmitter.
5. Change the Flash Exposure Bracketing (FEB) on the camera menu system.
6. Change the lighting ratio between groups A and B on the Odin transmitter from the standard 1:8 to 8:1.
7. Use the Zoom button on the Odin transmitter or the camera menu system to manually override the zoom setting reported by the lens. For example, I often use a zoom setting on the flash of 105 mm to narrowly focus my beam of light (like a snoot would), regardless of the zoom setting reported by my lens.
8. Press the Clear button to reset the Odin transmitter to its default settings.
9. Phottix provides the cables and 6.3 mm adapter to connect the receiver to a studio strobe.
10. The Odin Transmitter can be used with Strato II wireless receivers but only in manual mode.
11. The firmware of the Odin system can be updated using the mini-USB cable provided.
12. The transmitter and receiver both use AA batteries. The receiver has a 5V input for external power.

Phottix reports that it has a patent pending on the Odin system, but I wasn't able to find what the patent covered. Does anyone have any details about this?

Something the PocketWizard FlexTT5 does that the Phottix Odin can't is act as a remote shutter trigger, though this option will cost you more than $100 for a special PW cable. Phottix instead offers the Cleon II option (transmitter and receiver) at less than half the price. It also just released the Aion system which combines a wireless shutter release and timer for long exposures. I wonder if the Aion will do time lapse photography too...

The bottom line is that I'm thrilled to be able to control the ETTL II functionality of my flash wirelessly from a distance of at least 360 feet / 120 meters. I hope that Phottix updates the firmware to enable control of both the manual and multi-flash modes from the camera menu system like TTL cables do. That would earn them a 5th star.

Thank you Phottix. This is my third product from you and not my last...
8 internautes sur 8 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Wireless TTL that works! 30 novembre 2011
Par James W. Hays - Publié sur Amazon.com
I'm reluctant to gush about this trigger system as I have only used it a half dozen times. But in all cases, they have worked perfectly. There are about a bazillion wireless trigger systems out there, but this setup is the holy grail I've been waiting for. My needs are fairly specific in that I want to use flash off camera, with high sync, and full manual control. Until now, the Radiopopper system was the only thing that could achieve this for me. Only negative for me was in the RP system you have to have a flash unit mounted on the camera to control the slave manually (and use HSS). RP makes smaller trigger devices but you lose the HSS.
Enter Odin. A compact convenient trigger/controller that is dead easy to use. You can set your slave flash to TTL or manual mode with a couple of button presses, even adjust the flash zoom! My first use was a family session. It was a very windy day so my Elinchrom Quadra + soft lighter combo was out. I decided to give the Odin a try and simply put a flash/receiver on a stand high camera right, set the controller to +1 TTL and started shooting. I could not believe how consistent it was, even with some backlight. The speed and ease in which this was put to use was perfect for my situation.
Next was some use with a modifier. Since it was nearly sunset, I knew a speed light would be powerful enough for the job. This time I shot manual mode with the slave flash inside a softlighter. Fired a test shot, made a couple of tweaks on the controller and I was ready to shoot. Again, quick, easy and reliable.

I will say though that I am on my second unit. My first one kept getting stuck on full power and I was not able to adjust. No problems with this one.

With as versatile as this unit is, I really don't see how Canon or Nikon can ignore making a radio system of their own. This thing is a wedding photographers dream!
8 internautes sur 8 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
A great wireless system- Better than PW 30 janvier 2012
Par Amazon Customer - Publié sur Amazon.com
I'm ready to eBay my pocket wizards. I can exercise much more control with the ODINs than the PW system, plus I don't have to deal with the interference problems using the canon 580EX.

I've used the Odins in both ETTL and manual mode, and love them. Only downside is I can't trigger them using the sekonics light meter (which I could with the PW units).

It is great to be able to put the flash units inside a softbox and not touch them again due to the amount of control you get using the Odin transmitter. With the pocket wizards, if I wanted to experiment with flash settings, I had to open up the softbox and fumble round in poor light, with the Odins you can do whatever you want remotely.

Also, they fire the flash unit every time. With the PW, the flash would frequently fail to fire due to interference.
5 internautes sur 5 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Amazing system best I held!!! 14 septembre 2012
Par Andrey P - Publié sur Amazon.com
About 4 years ago I started to shoot OFF CAMERA Flash. First I invested in Canon in fared Speedlite Transmitter ST-E2d. It was pretty limited because Flash unit had to be in direct sight. About year later I switched to Pocket Wizard TT5 and TT1. It worked great on short distances indoor under 20 feet and outdoor 25-35 feet max range. One's a while I really wanted to back away further and TT1 and TT5 didn't pick up signal what so ever, so that was very frustrating. I read so much about 'noise issue that Speed lights 580 EX and 580 EXII were having. Some wanted to put until away from actual 580 Flash other suggested to put a shield on top of Flash, but I don't have time to do that, I needed a system that works better.

Finally I decided to give Phottix Odin a try and as soon as I opened the box I was so happy with how it looked. 2 minutes later I put 580 EX II on tripod and ran outside to test range. 30 feet distance solid, 50 feet solid, 100 feet solid, than I backed so far away that I was not able to see tripod stand with flash I say 300-400 feet away and every time I pushed shutter on camera I was able to see small blue flash light :))) Range is HUGE!!!!

So finally I went from 30 feet to 300 feet in same surroundings! Never had to read manual took me 5 minutes to play with system and I was changing settings on the fly. NOTE:: if you are Canon 430 EX user range with Pocket Wizard will be 2x better than with 580 because 430 have different frequency. And if you're 580 EX or 580 EX II owner and looking with TTL and much bigger range, this system is it! I knew that Radio Poppers would give me good range however I really didn't want to control other flashes with 580 flash messing with ratios.

So far between Pocket Wizard (for Canon) Radio Poppers and Phottix Odin Phottix Odin is my favorite.
6 internautes sur 7 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
Very good, but with one exception... 29 août 2012
Par Jermaine Stewart - Publié sur Amazon.com
After researching Pocket Wizards, Cyber Commander, Radio Poppers, etc., I decided to get the Phottix Odin. I've been using this trigger for a few months now, indoors and outdoors, with and without light modifiers, on the floor and in trees, and here's what I think are the pros and cons. I didn't include price since that's debatable.

+ Its a radio trigger, so there's no need for line-of-sight and no worries outdoors in sunlight.
+ Range seems good; I used it up to 30 feet. Then again, all of these triggers can easily handle this range with Radio Poppers being the clear winner in terms of long distance.
+ Works with 580exII, 580ex, 480exII, etc.
+ Supports TTL.
+ Supports manual.
+ Supports a mix of TTL and manual. Yes, set some lights to TTL and some to manual and they all get along.
+ Can control the flash power for speedlites when set to manual, and flash compensation for speedlites set to TTL.
+ Supports high speed sync (shoot faster than 1/250 sec) with dedicated button to enable/disable it.
+ Has a test button that fires each speedlite (or studio strobe if connected)
+ Backwards compatible with the Strato II receivers*
+ Supports up to 3 groups.
+ Can disable individual groups so that the lights do not fire.
+ Very simple to use interface. Just connect it to the hotshoe of your camera and go. You can learn how to use everything in less than 5 minutes without a manual.

- Only supports up to 3 groups. You can do a lot with 3 groups, but having more is nice.
- Can only control power in 1-stop increments; and this is a huge negative of mine. I also use studio strobes so this is a joke. (Hoooray! 1/3 stop increments added in firmware 1.20)

Overall, this is a very good trigger. It just works, and works very reliably. There's no need to put your lights in slave mode. In fact, its best if you never have to, especially when working around other photographers. My biggest gripe is the 1-stop power adjustment. For many this will not be a big deal; just compensate with a change of aperture for more control. However, the point of using a flash is that it gives the photographer some control of the light. The speedlites themselves can do 1/3 stop increments, so having the trigger force 1-stop increments makes more precise control difficult. I'd seriously reconsider the purchase if I had realized this before getting it. Of course, there are additional workarounds if you have the time, and time is money. I do like that it works with the strato II receivers. However, do note that you cannot control the power of the flash using the Odin trigger for speedlites connected to a Strato II receiver. The Odin can only send the command to trigger the flash, that's all. There's also no TTL support. For these capabilities you'll want the Odin receiver. I also have a Cyber Commander, and what I've done is connect the Cyber Commander to a Strato II trigger. With this setup, I can trigger and control the power of my speedlites that are connected to Odin receivers, as well as trigger my studio strobes that are connected to the Cyber Commander. The Odin is a great trigger, but know what you are getting before you pick this up.
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