Very interesting book and well written.Stirling uses sayings and phrases which are really easy to understand even for the normal civilians. I have served in my own country army and in foreign country army as well and this book gave me lots of new useful tips. You can see from the book that he has really amazing experience and knowledge. I specially liked the "raw" writing...I highly recommend this book!Special Forces: The Ultimate Guide to Survival, How To Fight Your Way Out of any Military Disaster
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Great book! Must own and read!3 juillet 2010
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Very interesting book and well written.Stirling uses sayings and phrases which are really easy to understand. I have served in my own country army and in foreign country army as well and this book gave me lots of new useful tips. You can see from the book that he has really amazing experience and knowledge. I specially liked the "raw" writing...I highly recommend this book!Special Forces: The Ultimate Guide to Survival
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There is a lot of good information in this book. I hope that I never have to use it for the reasons it was written, but even if I don't, there is much usable information here.
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Terribly Written Book, Loaded with Errors and Fantasy "War Stories"15 mars 2013
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After having reviewed author's other two books (which the regional Metro Library -- of scores of other libraries and local library networks inter-linked -- did not carry and I finally had to go through WorldCat to have those books located), I was, to tell you the truth, hesitant to even bother with this one (which likewise was going to require a WorldCat search and - if any found - then routed to my regional library network system and then to my local library). I noted however that this one was the first one written - and as I had already found discrepancies between book written second and book written third, I wondered how much further out in "fantasy land" this first book's war stories and personal accounts were.
And, boy, were they bad.
Just as an aside first, let me point out that the author himself has been back-pedaling furiously on his claim. For examples, this book's editorial (written by the author himself) says, "There have been a number of attacks on the Character of Robert Stirling made with the intention of countering his efforts to keep our soldiers alive on the battlefield and reducing the help he can provide to service charities and PTSD victims. (1) These attacks have been presented in a subtle and a clever way to give the appearance of being from different people or groups. (2) Perhaps the perpetrators are Islamists - or perhaps they are just traitors to their country and servicemen - who cannot handle someone doing something worthwhile. Do not be taken in by their lies. If you have doubts about Mr. Stirling then check out the Stirling web site and see the original photos here: robert-stirling.com/ " (3) (1) (Yet never anywhere specifies HOW he supports them, that a certain portion of his income or even just the sale of these books are going to those positive ventures - just their links on his web page and that he "supports them) (2) (No, the author would LOVE to believe that hogwash, but the fact is that he has been outed by a "Walter Mitty" site that outs "wanna be" Special Forces claimant - that has numerous members as well as on a number of forums, including forums that consist of Rhodesian Bush War veterans and the "old" South African Defense Forces Army Border War veterans... all of whom have outed the author as being a hoax *)
(3) (Yes, please, PLEASE visit that site... since his initial very negative reviews AND word of his outing as a hoax began spreading, the author very quickly removed both the photos - scammed from someone else's publications? - as well as ANY contact information... all that used to be on his site --- While at it, also check out his Amazon "Bio Page". It used to say pretty much what you read above - as the "editorial" for this book, by the author, but was quickly changed somewhat as it now leaves out the name calling of those who have outed him as being "traitors" and "Islamists"... revealing his anti-Semitic nature in assuming that ALL Muslims are the enemy and fanatical terrorists, when in fact only a very tiny fraction of Muslims are; as well as his already exposed racist nature where in one of his books referring to a "supposed" assignment in the Congo where the natives there were so horrible that his only solution was to propose that the Congo be aerially sprayed with Anthrax and all the people killed off - and of course that would spread through central Africa and kill millions and millions of truly innocent blacks).
Other listings of what were clearly fantasy stories: 1, While a "boy soldier" in training for the Paras, he is intentionally put into the boxing ring (a training scenario where recruits were put into a "boxing ring" for like ONE 2-minute round to hit away at each other to get used to hitting and being hit and was only done a couple of times in training) with a 29-year old boxing veteran who had just got out of MILITARY PRISON (yet was now in training for the high standard Parachute Regiment of the British Army? I think not! Read "The Making of a Para" and a couple other books on the training of a Parachute Regiment recruit and tell me if you can seriously believe that such a clown truly was ever an individual who passed the Parachute Regiment Selection Process... but then opted instead to serve in an Armored Unit? Well, no, it never actually happened that way!)(*)
2. Though not mentioned in the other books (just that he passed the initial Selection Process and "P Company" - advanced selection), here he states that even though he had passed Selection and the P Company process as a Boy Soldier (i.e., joining allegedly at 16), that once upon becoming an adult (18) that he was then posted to The Parachute Regiment where he had to again pass the P Company process again. And that- because the Instructors had it out for him - he flunked it not once, but twice, but persevered (earning finally the respect of his Instructors - which in fact were rotated around so his likelihood of getting same Instructors was nil) and made it through P Company on his third try! So what does he do? Abandons The Parachute Regiment (which he makes as ONE of his "claims to fame") and joins the Royal Hussar Armored Regiment (Tanks). Now remember, at this time he is at least 18. But specifically states that there (with the Royal Hussars in Germany) he learns about armored warfare IN BETWEEN TOURS TO NORTH IRELAND WHERE HE DOES "SECRET SQUIRREL" UNDERCOVER WORK... and yet still managers to (having done ALL of that) sign up for and get accepted into the British SAS Selection Course at age 19!!!!! And - due of course to being out of shape (why would you bother applying if you hadn't ALREADY done a rigorous and extensive amount of pre-Selection Course fitness training??). Because you see he fails the Course (obvious though he can't come right out and SAY THAT), but then the (unnamed) Major heading at that time asks the author what HE would like to do and the author replies "come back in six months". He then returns to the Royal Hussars where the Colonel (which would be a regimental commander) "generously gives him six month off from his duties" to get fit for that new Selection Course process!!! (Someone give me a break!). After an extremely extensive personal training program (while on The Queen's pay as supposedly a member of the Royal Hussars), he then returns six months later and "comfortably passes" that new Selection Course (though he refers to constantly coming in last on the timed runs, but being one of only "half dozen to pass the entire course'... in reality constantly being at end of timed runs would have shot him down early in the process). Then - just before actually getting assigned to an SAS Squadron he has a horrible motorcycle accident where he busted his skull and hip and was laid up for (only) 5 weeks. He then returned to Hereford - no longer able to be assigned to an SAS Squadron, but where he stays on in the Demo Troop for basically a year before moving on to "another unit" (never identified) to conclude his British Army service requirements..... How he fit in - once turning 18 - AFTER being posted to the Parachute Regiment - 3 Parachute Regiment "P Company" Selection Processes, finally passing the 3rd one and then opting to turn down remaining in the Paras and instead selecting to join the Royal Hussars as a tanker (and I assume that said duty assignment requires a significant degree of training, whether driver, gunner, or loader) and being assigned to West Germany and then having more than one "tour" in North Ireland (but NOT with the Hussars, but some mysterious, never identified "secret squirrel" unit - even though numerous non-fiction books have been written on The Troubles and have identified units, personnel, etc.)and then by age 19 made it into his first SAS Selection Course, he astounding. In fact, it is an astronomical impossibility!
3. He then goes off "to fight Robert Mugabe in Rhodesia" (no mention of Nkomo or ZANU or ZAPU or other guerrilla/terr forces, commanders, just "off to fight Mugabe himself). Here he states that he was initially sent to the Rhodesian SAS C Squadron (RhSAS) but because he had some armored experience (yes, with tanks), he was instead assigned to the Rhodesian Armored Car Regiment. Yet in other publications (books, interviews, etc.) he has indicated that he was well into the RhSAS Selection Course when he had a severe injury (in one publication, a sever sunburn on his back the day before a long forced march with full gear and pack and the pain from the pack straps cutting into his sunburn and bursting open blisters put him into a delirious state where he also became severely dehydrated and woke up - having failed the "yomp" - in a field hospital! Seemingly can't remember his fictions! According to sources on one of The Rhodie forums, "Robert Stirling" - not his real name or who he was known as in Rhodesia - or later in South Africa, flunked out of the RhSAS Selection process quite miserably within 48 hours and HE requested a transfer to the Rhodesian Armored Car Regiment). With the Rh Armored Car Regt., author then claims that these bright new shiny Elands that they just got from South Africa (actually Rhodesian Armored Regiment had other vehicles besides the Elands - including, within a specialist unit, some T55 tanks obtained from Uganda - and the Elands were obtained sometime BEFORE author's arrival according to sources and verified by Wiki "...A small number of Eland 90s were sold to the Rhodesian government in the mid-1970s to replace the aging Ferret armored cars..."), but that they (the Elands)were "far too valuable" to risk on mined roads so "most of the time they (the whole Regiment? he "Eland sections"?) operated as infantrymen"! Again, according to forum sources simply NOT true. The armored cars (number one) could readily travel cross-country ("The Eland is a South African light armored car based on the Panhard AML. Its permanent 4x4 drive gives it its mobility, and it can carry either a 90 mm quick firing low pressure gun, or a 60 mm breech loading mortar as main weapons. Night vision equipment provides effective night time operations, and it is provided with a modern telecommunications system...") with said mobility being just as effective "off road" and its assets - modified often to include 7.62NATO GPMGs and even .50 HMGs to its standard either 90mm gun or 60mm mortar - which of course (mortars) the author feels to be "useless" weapons. And that the Rhodesian Armored Car Regiment fought specifically as a light armor unit (not discounting that occasionally extra personnel would be "carried" to dismount and fight as infantry support when specific situations warranted it). The statement that sent pretty much every Rhody on various forums was the author's statement about the "super fit African Guerrillas" (basically the Terrs received very basic levels of training, almost no physical fitness training, ate poor diets, etc., etc. - and were easily run down by Rhodesian forces. Also, the comments about (since you couldn't conduct offensive operations to "run them down" - too super-fit after all) always conducting defensive operations and tricking locals into digging defensive trenches for his unit where then the locals would run off and tell the opposition, where they would then have to face attacks, outnumbered 10-1. Well, you can imagine the comments by Rhody vets about THAT one. And anyone who has read more than a couple of books about the Bush War will spot this fiction right off the bat. Rhodesian military units were pretty much always on the offensive against Terrs. And while special recon and Intell units (Selous Scouts, SAS Teams, etc.) - generally across the border and NOT engaging in firefights - could be readily outnumbered at least 10-1 and often 100-1 and higher, the fighting inside Rhodesia in MOST cases had Rhody units on the offensive, seeking infiltrating Terrs, and engaging them in battle once they pinned them down (and with various reinforcing concepts, such as Fireforce, developed, in more often than not was the Terrs who were outnumbered (but then THAT doesn't make for good copy, eh?). Of course when specialized combat teams did major cross-border raids into known major guerrilla camps, they were outnumbered in combat scenarios hundreds to one... and even though ALWAYS in the offensive mode, kicked some major butt while suffering minimal casualties themselves. But nothing (zero, na=da, zip, zilch in the way that the author describes it).
4. Then the same-same in South Africa (note, the author went to Rhodesia in early 1979 and the Peace Treaty ending The Bush War was signed in December of 1979... so time in country was - comparatively minimal... however the fact of service with the Rh Armored Car Regiment itself is true... though exploits specifically discussed are simply not believable - see above). Now after kicking around in Europe for a while (?) after leaving Rhodesia in late 1979, he then returns to Southern Africa and joins the SADF Army where he is made a "Recce Instructor" (for "Recce" - Reconnaissance Commando", think something like "Super SAS".... Under what basis the SADF would have made him a Recce Instructor (based on just WHAT experiences) when they had their own much more qualified people (!) is a mystery... except for the fact that he NEVER was a Recce Instructor or in any way associated with the Recces. But then he was pulled in by BOSS (the then South African Secret Police and Intelligence - again begging the question of "why would they use him - an English outsider with less than a year of experience - with armored cars - in Rhodesia and one enlistment with the British Army in a tank unit --- his real level of service within Britain???"), an assignment where he did all these ultra cool, walter-mitty wanna-be (fictitious) assignments.
I could go on and on with various other acts of an obviously over-worked imagination with fictional fantasy "remembrances", however I should point out that I got to ALL of the above by PAGE TEN!!! And through the remainder of the book is simply more and more of the same. (One being a fight - apparently when he was a youngster still - when in a notorious bar strip frequented by Allied and West German soldiers and he got into a fight with SIX German and - because of his boxing skills and having learned to "hit hard" [wow!] - he pretty quickly beat up the German soldiers... well except for one HUGE German that he just couldn't put down, who just kept taking all this terrible punishment that the author was laying on him. But no, wait, he finally DOES take out the HUGE German, but when he comes to he - they all being fellow soldiers and all after all - has no animosity against the author and they sit there and now drink together.... even though in finally knocking him out the author had put a hole in the German soldier's cheek big enough to stick two fingers through!... Yeah, right). Believe me, there is much more similar BS war stories scattered through the book! Ah, yes, the "story" - which of course never happened - where he obtained fake ID papers, a pistol, and a car and - while on a job for private South African gem dealers - "snuck into" Lesotho and ROBBED A BANK to recover the jewels,which the other double-crossing gem dealers had put into the bank - one assumes safety deposit boxes - for safe keeping; and then makes his "scot-free" getaway!... While it clearly was - again - a figment of imagination - it makes one think about, hmmm.... I wonder just what the statue of limitations for armed bank robbery is in Lesotho??? Oh yeah, and then there is his infamous - and this part likely IS actually true - theft of a military rifle from the SADF while a member of the SADF! He brags about stealing a rifle from several ones from "foreign makers" that are being tested for use by SA special forces - you know, like his Recce buddies. And of course he gets caught (but only because those Boer Afrikaans hate anyone with any British connections) and ends up in a SA Military Prison!!!! But finally gets released after much "diplomatic wrangling" between British and South African officials and diplomats! Why would they do such a thing? Wrangle for the release of an obvious - self-admitted - thief who fought for Rhodesia (which had been on the UKs bad side upon its declaration of Independence - and British authorities looked upon Brits serving for Rhodesia as mercenaries) and then (doubly-bad) as a once-again (according to the official British position) as a mercenary with the pariah South African apartheid government which was being blacklisted by 90% of the world - and especially the UK and Commonwealth! Forum sources of a SADF Border Wars vets nature have indicated that not only did the author never serve as a "Recce Instructor" within the SADF, but that he was with a Supply company for a couple years when they lost sight of him... likely for stealing a rifle, getting caught and going to prison and then kicked out of South Africa once releaased would be my "best guess opinion"!
And then there's the outright errors.
He refers to a .38 Special revolver round as a ".38" with the case enlarged for more propellant and thus more velocity and power (???). Obviously was confused with the .357 Magnum. The .38 Spl had been THE normal revolver standard for decades (before that, well before that, there had been the .38 Long Colt, the .38 S&W, etc.) and when the .357 Magnum came out, it was the same caliber as the .38 Spl (which was misnamed as it fired a .357 caliber bullet), but due to the .357 Magnum's much higher power and ability to destroy many of the older, weaker made - or even modern but lightweight models - of the .38 Spl., the .357 Magnum cartridge case was made slightly longer to keep it from fitting into a .38 Spl cylinder (there also came about a .38 Super round for semi-auto pistols which is a lot closer to .357Magnum in velocity and power than it is to the .38 Spl, but that is a round for pistols and is a rimless round).
Another example found just in scanning: He has statements as to the vast superiority of helicopters and their difficulty of being shot down. They shrug off small arms rounds and even most HMG rounds and can get above things like SA-7s and Stingers by simply flying at high altitude with this position reinforced after he "happens" to talk to a chap from a helicopter manufacturing company at an arms demonstration seminar and - after all this guy wouldn't lie, nor would the author... yeah, right! - and he comes away even more convinced that helicopters are (unless they do something really stupid) pretty much invincible. Of course, helicopter crews from everywhere from the VN War, to The Bush Wars, to the Border Wars, to the Israeli-Arab Wars, and to the present are shuddering at those comments! Helicopters - even "armored" ones (they are NOT "flying tanks" after all) are quite frail and very vulnerable to small arms fire, HMG fire, AAA fire, unguided rockets (RPGs), air-to-ground missiles, shoulder-fired and ground based. For example: In the VN War, the US Marines and (mainly) the US Army lost - as destroyed, not shot up and recovered and brought back to service, but as completely destroyed, 5348 helicopter! With most of them being Huey's (real Huey's, not the handful of pre-UH-1 Hueys that Rhodesia possessed - but all that the author ever refers to even though MOST of their combat helicopters were Alouettes and Lynxes... used almost exclusively in Fireforce operations... the Hueys that they obtained - from Israel I believe - were pre UH-1 "real" Hueys and turned out to be in terrible condition and seldom used), yet never get do the Alouettes / Lynxes - or Pumas - get a a mention.)
Or... Like on pages 48-49 when he reports on enemies being faced by the Good Guys... and clearly has no grasp of current realities or geo-political considerations! Or... When he reports on the death of the two "plainclothes soldiers on an intelligence mission in North Ireland who have their cover blown and are attacked by a mob and after much beating, one is killed there and one hauled to a nearby field after yet more beating, he is shot and killed. No names. And yet the story has been written on frequently and he literally got EVERY element of the incident false! Go to Wiki and look up "Corporals Killing" in regards to "the killing of corporals David Robert Howes and Derek Tony Wood, two (off-duty) British Army soldiers of the "Royal Corps of Signals", on 19 March 1988 in Belfast, Northern Ireland... The out-of-uniform (off-duty) soldiers were shot by the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA), after they drove directly into the funeral procession of an IRA volunteer (who had been killed earlier). Three days beforehand, a loyalist (Protestant UDA) volunteer named Michael Stone had attacked an IRA funeral and killed three people (and injured over 30 others - by driving into them). Believing it to be another loyalist attack, dozens of mourners attacked the soldiers' car. During this, Corporal Wood drew his service pistol and fired A shot in the air. The soldiers were then dragged from their vehicle, beaten, (and BOTH) driven to nearby waste ground, stripped and shot dead. Because it was FULLY CAPTURED ON television cameras, the incident has been described as one of the "most dramatic and harrowing images" of the conflict in Northern Ireland... The two men were driven less than 200 yards to waste ground near Penny Lane (South Link), just off the main Andersonstown Road. There they were shot several times. Corporal Wood was shot six times, twice in the head and four times in the chest. He was also stabbed four times in the back of the neck and had multiple injuries to other parts of his body. Redemptorist (Catholic) priest Father Alec Reid, who later played a significant part in the peace process leading to the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, had been following the perpetrators in an attempt to intervene and save Howes and Wood; when he arrived at the scene he gave the last rites to the two men... " Nothing at all like the author's story!
Ditto with the author's version of the death of Captain Robert Nairac. As per records and court statements (all of the perpetrators have been caught except for two who are believed to be in hiding in the United States, with one in NJ): "Captain Robert Laurence Nairac GC was a British Army officer who was abducted from a pub in Dromintee, south County Armagh, during an undercover operation (Working for "14 Field Security and Intelligence Company" (also known as "The Det", but most commonly "Int & Squint"...) and killed by the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) on his fourth tour of duty in Northern Ireland as a Military Intelligence Liaison Officer. He was posthumously awarded the George Cross in 1979. A number of claims have been made about both Nairac's involvement in the killing of an IRA member and his collusion with loyalist paramilitaries, however he was never charged (nor, once his death, even strongly investigated). On the evening of 14 May 1977, Nairac arrived at The Three Steps pub in Dromintee, South Armagh, by car, alone. He is said to have told regulars of the pub that his name was Danny McErlaine, a motor mechanic and member of the Official IRA from the republican Ardoyne area in north Belfast. The real McErlaine, on the run since 1974, was killed by the IRA in June 1978, after stealing arms from the organization. (Talk about having a horrible "cover" - the IRA immediately knew he was a plant) Witnesses say that Nairac got up and sang a republican folk song "The Broad Black Brimmer" with the band who were playing that night. At around 11.45 p.m., he was abducted following a struggle in the pub's car park and taken across the border into the Republic of Ireland to a field in the Ravensdale Woods in County Louth. Following a violent interrogation during which Nairac was allegedly punched, kicked, pistol-whipped (not tortured with electric drills and "other unpleasantness" for several days as is in author's book) and hit with a wooden post, he was shot dead (again, note that it was right then, not "after several days" of torture"). He did not admit to his true identity. Terry McCormick, one of Nairac's abductors, posed as a priest in order to try to elicit information by way of Nairac's confession. Nairac's last words according to McCormick were: 'Bless me Father, for I have sinned'.... "
Well, that's enough. I simply can't stand going back over this BS. I still have at LEAST another 20-25 yellow "sticky notes" on pages that spell out significant errors, dangerous (even life-threatening) "tips", and more of the fantastic wonderland BS war stories.
In closing, I would simply like to address the primary serious point... That of credibility. And here there is none!
From "Special Forces Sniper Skills":
Editorial Reviews - About the Author:
At the age of 16, Robert Stirling joined the British Army as a Junior Leader Paratrooper and so spent his first year of service undergoing a strict training regime which alternated weapons skills, drill, physical exercise and education all designed to prepare a soldier for leadership. Entering adult service and passing P Company, the Parachute Regiment selection, led to four tours in Northern Ireland and some covert experience wearing a donkey jacket and carrying a 9mm pistol. He was probably the second youngest soldier ever to pass selection for the SAS at 19 years of age. (Not even the same story that he tells in THIS book) Robert left the British Army and joined the Rhodesian Army towards the end of the Bush War. Here he led a unit of 200 men including a number of ex-French Foreign Legionnaires. He was in constant action and wounded twice. Besides extensive combat experience in numerous conflicts, Robert has been contracted to recover stolen diamonds, work undercover against mercenary operations, teach unarmed combat to riot police, provide close protection to VIPs and other secretive roles. Based in Southern Spain, he travels widely and accepts some consultancy work. He has recently trained the Austrian Officer Corps and Special Forces in unarmed combat and the Greek Special Forces. He is now running a covert operation in Afghanistan. (Yeah, right!)
From "SAS Ultimate Guide to Combat:"
About the Author At the age of 16, Robert Stirling joined the British Army as a Junior Leader Paratrooper and so spent his first year of service undergoing a strict training regime which alternated weapons skills, drill, physical exercise and education all designed to prepare a soldier for leadership. Entering adult service and passing P Company, the Parachute Regiment selection, led to four tours in Northern Ireland and some covert experience wearing a donkey jacket and carrying a 9mm pistol. He was probably the second youngest ever to pass selection for the SAS at 19 years of age. (Not even the same story that he tells in THIS book) Robert left the British Army and joined the Rhodesian Army towards the end of the Bush War. Here he led a unit of 200 men including a number of ex-French Foreign Legionnaires. He was in constant action and wounded twice. Besides extensive combat experience in numerous conflicts, Robert has been contracted to recover stolen diamonds, work undercover against mercenary operations, teach unarmed combat to ript (sic) police, provide close protection to VIPs and other secretive roles. Based in Southern Spain, he travels widely and accepts some consultancy work. He has recently trained the Austrian Officer Corps and Special Forces in unarmed combat and the Greek Special Forces. He is now running a covert operation in Afghanistan.
And now, from THIS book:
About the Author -
There have been a number of attacks on the Character of Robert Stirling made with the intention of countering his efforts to keep our soldiers alive on the battlefield and reducing the help he can provide to service charities and PTSD victims. These attacks have been presented in a subtle and a clever way to give the appearance of being from different people or groups. Perhaps the perpetrators are Islamists - or perhaps they are just traitors to their country and servicemen - who cannot handle someone doing something worthwhile. Do not be taken in by their lies. If you have doubts about Mr. Stirling then check out the Stirling web site and see the original photos here: robert-stirling.com/
And now, from REAL LIFE:
youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=KpJc69GMrp0 (Note comments down a bit by tprdfh51 and Mick Collins)
But then.... you have the other (apparently real) side of the coin:
newrhodesianDOTnet/viewtopicDOTphp?f=3&t=1927 (According to a number of their sources, and others from SA who wished to not be identified, he - and, BTW, his name is NOT "Robert Stirling" they insist - served in Rhodesia for a few months with an Armored Car regiment, having quit the Rhodesian SAS Selection course in first 48 hours, and worked briefly in a supply unit in the old South African Defense Forces army)