On peut toujours se fier aux masterisations de Deutsche Gramophon même quand il s'agit des enregistrements des années 60 et 70, ce qui est le cas de ce coffret. La qualité du son permet tous les effets sonores de lecture, y compris le surround sans distorsion. On aime ou on n'aime pas les interprétations de Karajan. Je préfère d'autres interprétations des symphonies de Beethoven mais j'adhère totalement à son interprétation de Tchaikowsky. Il fait ressortir du Berliner Philarmoniker les multiples facettes de l’âme slave - force et combativité, romantisme, mélancolie. Je connais la majorité des oeuvres du coffret mais les Variations sur un thème rococo pour violoncelle étaient une découverte, surtout avec Rostropovich ! J'ai remplacé mes anciens CDs par ce coffret. Capriccio italien est d'une légèreté, dansante, surprenante. L'ouverture 1812 est une des rares versions avec l'introduction chorale. On peut regretter l'utilisation de véritables canons à la place de tambours. La célèbre symphonie n° 6 "Pathétique" reflète les nuances entre le romantisme et la mélancolie chers à Tchaikowsky, décrits dans le livret d'accompagnement. Pour les linguistes il est intéressant de comparer les critiques en F, D & GB du livret.
claude toonTOP 500 COMMENTATEURSVOIX VINE le 19 décembre 2011
Bon, faisons le bilan de ce qui pourrait justifier le 4* que je décerne à ce coffret du legs consacré à Tchaïkovski des années 60-70 par le Maestro autrichien, Richter, Ferras et Rostropovitch. Oui, les 3 dernières symphonies par Mravinsky avec l'orchestre de Leningrad sont et restent d'une folie renversante. Oui, il manque des poèmes symphoniques comme Francesca da Rimini ou la Tempête et aussi la symphonie à programme Manfred. Oui, chaque année, un ou deux enregistrements des concertos viennent s'ajouter sur la pile, souvent temporairement, parfois en renouvelant le genre. Personnellement la dernière mouture de Laurent Korcia ne m'a guère séduit, mais on ne peut vraiment pas reprocher à ce grand violoniste une approche moderne, débridée, de feu et de glace dans ce disque qui devrait faire date. Je me dois d'essayer d'être objectif.
Après cette introduction destinée aux mélomanes un rien fondamentalistes, oh ça m'arrive... que reste-t-il ? Beaucoup !
Déjà, les symphonies gravées dans les années 60 pour les trois dernières, 70 pour les premières. Karajan confiait au disque stéréo sa vision de ce monument orchestral. Plus instinctif que dans les ré-enregistrements ultérieurs, le maestro autrichien délaisse la Germanie pour la passion slave. Il est important de noter que la prise de son du phonogénique philarmonique de Berlin est particulièrement équilibrée dans cette série de gravures. Même la troisième symphonie, la plus faible voire ennuyeuse, retrouve des couleurs émouvantes grâce à des dialogues de bois et cuivres concertants car parfaitement contrôlés dans l'andante central. Je redécouvre avec plus de mansuétude cet opus dans lequel il semble que le compositeur ait voulu écrire de manière chambriste pour grand orchestre (Scherzo).Lire la suite ›
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Fair value, but Karajan can be heard better elsewhere24 août 2003
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This is not a bad package for the price, but buyers should be aware that Karajan did some of these works better at other times. We can safely dispense with Karajan's last slackly-played VPO set, of course. For example note that these are the 1960s recordings of the last three symphonies (unlike the DG Double set which are the 1970s recordings). For the Pathetique this means you get by common consent the best of Karajan's many recordings of this works - fine playing, with spontaneity and freshness and excellent recording for 1964. However in the case of the Fifth, the later BPO DG recording, or even better the wonderfully spontaneous 1971 EMI Berlin recording are preferable (the latter quite superb in phenomenal sound, rivalling George Szell's 1959 version in sweep and power). This 1960s Fifth does sound rather studied in comparison. Other caveats should include a warning about the rather brightly lit CD of the three ballet suites, and Christian Ferras' terribly schmaltzy account of the violin concerto. All that said, this set does include Richter's aristocratic First Concerto with the Vienna SO, although why DG chose to include it rather than Lazar Berman's version is a mystery, as the latter is with the BPO to match the rest of the set and doesn't seem to be otherwise unavailable. It's also a finer account to many ears. Other worthwhile inclusions are Karajan's Winter Daydreams symphony (No 1), although enthusiasts for this work should also sample Michael Tilson Thomas' CD with the Boston SO, also on DG. Similarly Rostropovich's account of the Rococo Variations is a classic, and the Romeo and Juliet included here (never before on CD as far as I can tell) is very fine, with many imaginative touches. This Marche Slave is also one of the finest ever, full of power and brooding intensity. All in all a decent box, but true Karafans may need to pick up other CDs to complete the full Tchaikovskian picture.
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A solid Tchaikovsky box set14 août 2007
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Karajan is one of my favorite conductors who has recorded truck loads of great classical. With all the various releases and re releases of the same music recorded from the 50s to the 80s by Karajan, it can at times be very confusing. I really do like to know what I am buying. I have no need to buy the same music twice unless it has been substantially improved by being remastered.
This set is posted at Rhapsody and the track listing is posted at the Deutsche Grammophon website. At that website, each track may be clicked to open a track recording info window. The track times listed at Deutsche Grammophon are not exact matches as listed on their actual CDs. For example, I have Karajan's mid 70s Tchaikovsky Symphonies 4, 5, 6 2CD 2fer and the track times on the CD box do not exactly match the track times posted at Deutsche Grammophon. But they are within 4 to 6 seconds most of the time.
I was curious about when the symphonies and other orchestral works were recorded, especially the first three symphonies. The first three symphonies were recorded in December 77 and early 1979. These are apparently the same recordings as my triple LP box set copyrighted 1979. They are also for sale as a 2 CD 2fer. The dances from Eugene Onegin were recorded in 1971 and the remaining symphonies and orchestral works are from the 1960s, many from Oct 1966, according to Deutsche Grammophon's website.
From this set I like the symphonies best. The ballet suites are excellent as well, but they have been released elsewhere so beware of buying the same music twice. The orchestral works are a little above average to very good. For example, the recording of the Marche Slav is good, but a far superior over the top recording was done by Yuri Temirkanov with the Royal Philharmonic.
The concertos have been recorded by just about every major conductor and several times each by Karajan with different soloists. It would be interesting to know why these particular soloists were chosen.
The recorded sound varies but, for the most part, is pretty good. With a box set, I do not expect each track to be all time greats, instead I am hoping for above average to very good. That is the case here. This set would serve well as a primary or secondary Tchaikovsky set. I have listened thru a couple of times and enjoyed the music.
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Karajan (not) at his finest22 avril 2004
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One of the greatest conductors of the 20th century, Karajan's recordings are some of the best pieces in the entire Deutsche Grammophon repertoire. This collection of Karajan Conducts Tchaikovsky is an excellent bargain - eight CDs for approximately $60 - and serves as an excellent sampling of Karajan's interpretation of Tchaikovsky's work. Unfortunately, this collection does not necessarily show Karajan at his finest.
While much of the collection is top-notch, some of the symphonies are a tad lack-luster in their execution. Indeed for Karajan fans, there are other recordings of Karajan conducting these symphonies, such as recordings of the 2nd and 5th, that you may want to try instead of the ones included in this set.
On the other hand, the ballet suites are well done, Rostropovich is excellent in the Cello Variations, and Ferras offers an interesting interpretation of the Violin Concerto. As a whole, this is a fairly solid collection that is certainly recommended for anyone whose collections have deficiencies in either Tchaikovsky or Karajan. If, however, you do already have some recordings of Karajan conducting Tchaikovsky, I would recommend skipping this set and buying individual albums where Karajan displays more of his trademark excellence.
My greatest criticism for this collection concerns its packaging. Though listed as a collectors edition, this box set is simply presented as a collection of eight discs in paper sleeves and a set of liner notes in English, German, and French inside a cardboard box.
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Excellent Tchaikovsky set - critically recommended and a great value (and with at least one surprise)18 juin 2011
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This is a very reasonably priced set of 8 CD's. I purchased it initially after noticing that it had received strong reviews from Gramophone and Penguin, and I've come to decide that it is a solid choice, particularly for someone wanting to get a good collection of Tchaikovsky orchestral works, for a very reasonable price.
The 2011 edition of the Gramophone Classical Music Guide places this box set first under the Tchaikovsky symphony listings. It does note, as do other reviewers here, that some of the performances are not the best to be found. Overall, it gives it a very high recommendation and good value for the price. Penguin also gives it their top recommendation. I've relied upon Gramophone, as well as Penguin, a great deal, particularly early in my collecting days. These days and with the internet I have other sources for guidance, including Amazon's contributor's reviews. Taking these all into account, this collection is a good one.
All of the performances are with Herbert von Karajan conducting the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra. Soloists are: for the Variations on a Rococo Theme, Op. 33 it features Mstislav Rostropovich on cello; Sviatoslav Richter at piano for the Piano Concerto #1 In B Flat Minor, Op. 23; Christian Ferras on violin for the Violin Concerto In D Major, Op. 35.
Some of the performances are superb. Penguin comments that the performances here are among Karajan's best, preferable to his later recordings with the Vienna Philharmonic. If you are not familiar with the Serenade for Strings (disc 5) of Tchaikovsky, then the performance included with this set is superb. I have enjoyed it for a number of years as part of a separate CD combined with the Dvorak serenade. Very enjoyable.
There was also a surprise for me, when I found myself listening to the performance of Tchaikovsky's well-known '1812 overture' on disc 2 of this set - it began with a choir singing! After doing some research, I find the following information in the wikipedia article on Op. 49:
In a transcription by American conductor Igor Buketoff the following changes and additions were made:
- The opening segment, O Lord, Save Thy People is sung a cappella by a choir instead of being played by cellos and violas. - A children's or women's choir is added to the flute and cor anglais duet rendition of At the Gate, at my Gate. - The orchestra and chorus unite in the climax with a triumphant version of O Lord, Save Thy People and God Save the Tsar.
The performance included with this collection does include the introductory choir segment, but no choir after that. I find it to be a pleasant and unexpected bonus to be found here, particularly since I have plenty of other 'traditional' performances of the '1812' overture in my collection. I don't know how many recordings of the '1812' exist with this choir variation, but I'm glad to have come across this one here and to have it in my collection.
As you build your collection then you will also want other performances of some of the compositions, but this is an excellent place to begin. And if you already have a number of Tchaikovsky CD's (as I do), then this is still a worthwhile addition to your collection.
The opportunity to get these performances for such a low price is remarkable. Highly recommended.
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Noise, no musical emotions4 juin 2014
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My apologies to the other reviewers, but I really can't agree with them. Tchaikovsky's symphonies are full of musical emotions. Karajan makes noise, but misses all the right musical feelings in this wonderful music. In my ears it's played extremely hard or soft, with all the wrong interpretation of the Tchaikovsky emotions. It's an exaggerated interpretation. When you compare this for instance with Janson and the Oslo Philharmonic, it's a concrete wall versus a heart.