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The Fires of Heaven The acclaimed, nationally bestselling fifth book of the Wheel of Time series. The Last Battle is approaching rapidly, for the seals of the Dark One's prison are beginning to crumble. The Dragon Reborn is closer to ruling the world, while the Forsaken Rahvin is meeting with three of his fellows to ensure their ultimate victory over the Dragon. Full description

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  • Broché: 928 pages
  • Editeur : Orbit; Édition : New Ed (3 novembre 1994)
  • Collection : The Wheel of Time
  • Langue : Anglais
  • ISBN-10: 1857232097
  • ISBN-13: 978-1857232097
  • Dimensions du produit: 10,9 x 17,7 cm
  • Moyenne des commentaires client : 4.2 étoiles sur 5  Voir tous les commentaires (4 commentaires client)
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Robert Jordan (de son vrai nom James Oliver Rigney) est né en 1948 à Charleston en Caroline du Sud. A l'âge de cinq ans, il lisait déjà Jules Verne et Mark Twain. Diplômé de l'Ecole militaire de Caroline du Sud, la Citadelle, il a servi dans l'armée et a été envoyé au Vietnam d'où il est revenu décoré de nombreuses médailles. Curieux et hyperactif, il était amateur de chasse, de pêche, de voile mais aussi, de poker et d'échecs. Il écrivait depuis 1977 (roman historique, western et fantasy avec la série des Conan) et poursuivait son best-seller mondial, La Roue du Temps, avant d'être fauché par une maladie en 2007. Ses fans lui ont rendu hommage dans le monde entier.

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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Un léger essouflemment mais encore génial 29 mars 2002
Par Docteur Fox COMMENTATEUR DU HALL D'HONNEUR TOP 1000 COMMENTATEURS
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Je note un léger essoufflement par rapport au tome précédent qui m'a semblé le meilleur de tous. Mais les aventures mises en branle précédemment se déploient ici avec beaucoup de verve et de couleurs (il ne manque que Perrin et Faile, à mon grand regret).
Plusieurs personnages prennent une vraie carrure de leaders : Nynaeve et Mat notamment. Rand confirme la carrure qu'il a commencé à prendre au tour précédent.
Et puis, pour ceux qui aiment les aiels, c'est vraiment un morceau de choix.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 MAGNIFIQUE 6 juillet 2002
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Le plus beau de tous. Un livre magnifique plein de surprises où la tension est à son comble. Il est difficile de résister à l'envie de tout vous dévoiler. Jusqu'à la fin, Robert Jordan a su nous faire suer. Je vous garantit des larmes pour ceux qui liront cet ouvrage. Ce livre est un signe de boulversement dans la vie de tous les personnages de la série, excepté Perrin qui en est absent. Il n'y a qu'une seule chose à dire: si vous ne l'avez pas déjà lu, courrez vite l'acheter!
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 General Cauthon 21 juillet 2013
Par Gaelounet
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What marked me most in this volume is the emergence of Mat Cauthon's military genius that already was hinted at in the previous one. He goes from vain to grumbling reluctant hero.
Egwene and Nynaeve also change a bit, as do their relations. I expect volume six will further on this.
Finally there are some significant surprises in this episode, but they are really in keeping with the characters concerned.
All in all a good read.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Ca commence sacrément à trainer en longueur 13 mars 2013
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L'histoire est pas mal mais l'écriture est très moyenne. Je trouve que l'intrigue traine beaucoup trop en longueur. Le résumé d'un bouquin de cette taille peut se faire en deux pages sans perte d'info.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Amazing story. 23 août 1998
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I am rereading the series for the umpteenth time, in anticipation of reading "The Path of Daggers." I just finished TFOH. It seems each book in the series is better than its predecessor. Unlike Knight Michaels, who writes nearby, I found a lot of character growth in the book. And, I don't see what he means by his comment about "...murdering characters...."
In TFOH, we see a lot of Rand. He emerges as a complex person. He seems somehow to fully understand that almost everybody wants to kill him or to use him for their own purposes, whether or not it helps the cause. He's the only one who has a holistic view about the nature of the conflict. He hardens himself like iron, using and commanding whole nations against his own nature. And yet, three pretty girls can put him through agonies of uncertainty and self-doubting.
Prior to this book, we knew little about Elayne. Sure, she's a spoiled brat. She's also delightfully spunky and adventurous, and she too is learning how to deal with smart, energetic people like Thom Merrilin in a way that will help her become a ruler.
Nynaeve has a ton of conflicts gnawing at her - her relationship with Lan, her feelings about Aes Sedai and Moiraine, being challenged by Egwene, etc. The stable, quiet world in which she lived for 25 years has been replaced by a maelstrom of currents, and she's having a hard time coping. But, she's tough as nails and fierce as a tigress, and she's a heavyweight with the One Power. The scenes with her and Moghedien in the Royal Palace are absolutely riveting.
Mat continues his march to becoming my own favorite character. He would take the easy way out in every situation, but The Wheel won't let him. He is a reluctant hero at best. We see his powers growing in stages, and at each stage he surprises with his capability. Rand sees it too, and tests it and exploits it as he can. The scenes in the battle with the Shaido are gripping.
As far as the general relations between men and women - hey, that's pretty much on target. That's why that other book about Mars and Venus was an all-time best seller. Let me introduce you to my half-dozen sisters-in-law sometime. They make Aes Sedai look like Brownies. They even sniff at stupid men just as do Jordan's women; and we men employ that same look that Thom and Juilin use when being put upon by Nynaeve or any others.
Anyway, by the time this book is ended, all sorts of momentous and exciting things have happened. It's a delightful and essential building block in this epic series. Finally, keep in mind two things. First, only about two years have passed since Rand and gang, who except for Nynaeve were all teenagers, were routed out of the Two Rivers at the start of the series. The character changes they show seem reasonable to me.
Second, those who suppose that Jordan is dragging this out to extort more money out of us: think a minute. Think about placing yourself behind a typewriter 8 to 12 hours a day, day in and day out, for YEARS on end. Think about devoting your life to pleasing all sorts of unappreciative people - for however long it takes to finish the stories. I'll be happy to pay $25 or whatever pittance he asks each year or two for as long as it takes to resolve this great story.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Average, Slightly Better Than Last One 24 janvier 2003
Par Norm Zurawski - Publié sur Amazon.com
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I'm going to start this review with an assumption; that you've read the first 4 books in the Wheel of Time series. I'm going to make a second assumption; that you're not sure if you want to embark on a 1000 page long journey to...wherever the next one goes.
That's a start. If those assumptions are right, then this review may help you. If not, maybe this review will serve to give you an idea of how Jordan writes. Failing those 2, I have no idea why you might be reading this. But I'll do my best to entertain you.
Jordan can put words together. Like a bricklayer, he can slap words down and cement them in place with the best of them. As you read the book, you never stumble through pages of narrative. If the procession of words is a foundation, Jordan builds a good one. It's fairly easy to walk through the pages of the book because Jordan is, in general, a good wordsmith. What's he not necessarily good at is getting to the point. His well built foundation often times supports a minimal structure.
This book is better than the 4th in the series. But after several hundred pages, you begin to seriously wonder why you're still reading it. After roughly 600 pages, I asked myself, "Is this going anywhere?" I was reminded of the Talking Heads song, Road to Nowhere. I'm actually being serious.
Eventually it does go somewhere, and that's what makes this book better than the 4th in the series. That, and the fact that the last 100 pages serve as the conclusion. In contrast, I think book #4 was wrapped up in about 5 pages. However, I'd be lying if I said I had trouble putting it down. The truth is, Jordan slogs through another loooooooong book to tell a relatively normal length story; but with a lot of words added to describe things you don't necessarily want to read.
Jordan must work under some restriction where he is required to maintain a conservation of feminine anger in any book he writes. One of the problems I have with the average Jordan character is that they more often than not act like a pre-teen with a sour disposition. Resonant with this is Jordan's lack of character development. This book does a better job in that regard. However, some characters regress. Some that acted with composure in the previous books suddenly get, as strange as it sounds, immature.
Another annoyance I have with Jordan is his vocabulary. In one sentence, he actually uses the expression, "Languid hauteur." Are you serious? I feel as though I am the object of Jordan's attempt to learn a new word every week. I'm not here to build my vocabulary. I just want to read a fantasy story. Others have commented on this same phenomenon, so I'm not the only one who thinks that reading "haughty" 20 times in a 300 page stretch of narrative is odd.
Another of Jordan's shortcomings is his ludicrous depiction of women. I'm not sure how many feminine rituals there are in the series now, but rest assured of this. No ritual exists in this book without female nudity. Whatever Jordan aims for with this, he misses so widely that I think he shot the wrong way. I won't even offer suggestions as to what exactly is going on there.
I think we're supposed to be led to believe these books are built with a strong female presence. The reality of the matter is that most women in the book act like teenage girls who still think that boys might actually have cooties. The reverse is true also, with most male characters randomly veering off on his own train of thought in which he deduces every woman is 51 cards short of a deck. Maybe that's a fair assessment, considering the way Jordan portrays most of them.
Even with all of this, the story is better than the last. The angry female characters are becoming less of an issue with Jordan, while building strength is becoming his predominant theme. The idea of the characters "building strength" is one I took from another reviewer, who suggests these stories are like a game of D&D being played out in a book. I think there's a lot of truth to that opinion. Every chapter we have a new skill being developed or learned.
All of that said, again, it is a decent read. You cold do worse. Yeah, I'm sure you could do better but I'm not very well versed in fantasy stories to be able to say. So I'll probably pick up the 6th book because I am compelled to find out what happens. Truth be told, as lengthy as the book is, it's refreshing to get your money's worth when you buy it. As opposed to some of these 250 pages books, Jordan's sure have a lot of meat on them.
A final tidbit about the story. At this point, there are over 30 characters in the book. Each occupies a story line, no matter how trivial the character. Granted, they are often intertwined so we're not reading three dozen narratives at once. Still, there are so many that Jordan left out at least 5 major characters this time. An entire book went by with no mention of Perrin and that story. Mind you, there were 1000 pages in which to do this. That tells you just how laboriously the narrative thickly flows through these 1000 pages.
Jordan's acceptance that not all the good guys can get out scot free is a step forward. As is his character development and the more robust final showdown. I still think he's got some work to do in terms of shoring up the details of his story. Every book ending is roughly predictable, and this one is no different. But this is probably worth picking up if you're not sure whether or not you want to continue.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 A willing hostage of a wonderful series 16 janvier 2000
Par Jon Fingland - Publié sur Amazon.com
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The fifth book of the Wheel of Time Series, compells you to read on like those before it. Despite suffering from the same ailment as book 4 (The Shadow Rising), that is too much detail, The Fires of Heaven finally gives Moiraine a place in your heart, finally unwraps any built up dislike, and truly lets you see her as a real woman.
The Forsaken (or Chosen as they call themselves) play an even larger role in this episode, revealing not only how much Rand has matured but also how far he has to go.
The lack of any presence of Perrin only assures me that he has a larger role in future novels in this series, and the few brief glimpses of Emond's Field in Tel'aran'rhiod give you a glimpse and expectation of what's to come.
I regret that I feel at times "Where is this going? When does the end come?", all I need do is remind myself of the struggles of the people in the World that Jordan has so intricately constructed. The characters come alive as never before. Like real poeple, the depths of their personalities vary, but all are worth considering. If nothing else I can honestly say that when reading this and other books in the wheel of time, I do not read words on a page, but rather gaze about me and see the amazing and fantastic events unfold around me. I am always by the end of every installment, more than willing to read the next if only to visit with those who seem friends near and dear to me.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Pace slows, but still good 18 octobre 2005
Par James Chapman - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Relié
This is the 5th book in the Wheel of Time series. As with the other books of the series, I will rate and review the book on its own merits and not be influenced by any shortcomings of other books.

First off is whether or not this book qualifies as a stand alone book. It has a clear cut beginning (Rand trying to decide what to do next after the events of the previous book). This storyline culminates in the events of Caemlyn, thus giving it a clear cut ending. I thus feel that this book is a stand alone book though much would not make sense to someone who hasn't read the previous books. There also still some unresolved threads making future books necessary as might be expected.

What I liked:

*Rand's growing strength in the power and finally growing confidence.

*Resolution of a couple of problems (even though new ones arise)

*Battles against the Forsaken, some long overdue

*Further Intrigue

*Mat's emerging skills as a tactician as well as more comedy at his expense.

*Birgitte

*Moiraine

*Lanfear

*The most argued about mystery in the whole Wheel of Time series!

What I didn't like:

*The pace slows down, particularly during the Elayne, Nynaeve, Birgitte quest. Even though some important events happen during this quest, it is still a tough read in those parts particularly when re-reading the book. I don't mind a slower pace as long as the information in it is relevant and leads to something climatic. A little more brevity in some parts would have been better. As one other reviewer alluded to, by this time in the series, we have firm pictures of the main characters in our minds and don't need a reintroduction to them or at least not THAT detailed of one.

*The complete absence of Perrin! Of the many main characters, Perrin is one of the "big three". Those three should NEVER be excluded!

In Summary:

Despite the slower pace in some parts, this book still had a lot of enjoyable moments with an exciting and emotional ending. The slow parts were still relevant and in the least gave the reader a feeling for the arduous journey that some of the characters were on. As for Perrin being absent, I must admit that I'm glad that RJ didn't throw in some filler just to include him so maybe that's not so bad after all. The slow pace and occasional over description, though was enough for me to take away one star (It was still enjoyable enough to make me feel pain in doing that, though).
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 War, Magic, and Turning Points 21 octobre 2002
Par newyork2dallas - Publié sur Amazon.com
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The Wheel of Time is probably the best-known and most widely read fantasy series other than The Lord of the Rings.
When book one (The Eye of The World) was published in 1988 or 1989, it created a sensation -- a tremendous first volume that had the usual good-evil battle and tons of action but also was filled with magic, history, politics, sociology, cultural background and realistic characters.
When I re-read the first five books, I was amazed at the details of history and politics that Jordan provided in his world. Jordan also has numerous protagonists, not just one or two primary ones like many other fantasy writers. Moreover, the series features strong men and, through their magical abilities and powerful personalities, stronger women. Jordan has been rightly lauded for the prominent and powerful roles he created for the female characters.
The Great Hunt, The Dragon Reborn, The Shadow Rising and The Fires of Heaven followed and created a tremendous series such that The New York Times noted that Jordan had come to dominate the genre that Tolkien made famous.
The Fires of Heaven is the most action-packed book of the series, with few dull moments and an explosive ending. The various protagonists continue their development, especially Mat (as a war commander) and Egwene. Rand continues to be pulled in many directions, but needs some help from his allies to survive.
Nonetheless, this book is NOT a preview of things to come -- The Fires of Heaven's plot twists near the end (especially the most important one that would be a HUGE spoiler) are barely examined in books 6-9.
Unfortunately, starting with Lord of Chaos (book 6), Jordan's creation became unwieldy. Instead of concentrating on following the themes and story-threads of books 1-5 (which combined are more than 3500 pages, hardcover), he created new storylines, bogged down the narrative and halted the pace of the epic. Book 8 in particular is an unmitigated disaster -- 650 pages (hardcover) with almost no progress to the story. Book 9 began to jump-start the narrative once again.
The series is at 10 books (the tenth will be published in January 2003) and growing (13 total possible -- it's a common numerical theme in the books), thus the last volume will be published in 2006, at the earliest.
Other than the final chapters of Lord of Chaos (book 6), this is the last of the good WoT books published to date. The Fires of Heaven is the blood-and-guts installment -- it has the highest body count, much war, scheming, conquest, hunting the evildoers, a couple of surprises and a fiery finish (hence the name). By the time you read this volume, you will most likely be addicted to the series as a whole; but if you hadn't made it this far, be forewarned that the pace, storyline, action and development slow down considerably in books 6-8.
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