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The Groaning of Creation: God, Evolution, and the Problem of Evil (Anglais) Broché – 19 juin 2008

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Book by Christopher Southgate

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32 internautes sur 32 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
a thoughtful, honest treatment 21 février 2009
Par Matthew Marston - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
In this book, Christopher Southgate addresses the "problem of evil" with particular attention to evolution. He notes that evolution necessarily includes pain, suffering, death, and exctinction as part of the process. How does someone who confesses the goodness of God respond to this? Southgate attempts his answer in this book.

Along the way, Southgate helpfully critiques other proposals (i.e. process theology, creationism, intelligent design, de Chardin), and interacts with a wide variety of thinkers, all in clear writing and with a charitable spirit. For instance, Southgate believes that God suffers with creatures and employs "kenosis" as an important part of his constructive moves. But he carefully interacts with critics of these two theological positions and refines his own views as a result. After describing his approach to creation, Southgate outlines the role of humanity before ending with some concrete ethical proposals.

For anyone interested in this subject, this is a helpful book. I found Southgate's honesty, his willingness to ask the difficult questions, and his own modesty extremely refreshing. I imagine everyone who reads it will be challenged in some deep ways, but will find the book well worth their attention.
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Reconciling animal suffering and a good creation 28 mars 2014
Par Paul R. Bruggink - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
In this helpful book, Christopher Southgate tries to see how God can be both worthy of worship and the creator of a world that includes so much suffering, with a focus on animal suffering.

In addressing the question, “Why did God choose to create this universe with these laws and constants, knowing they would then make neo-Darwinian evolution unavoidable,” Southgate opts for the “only way” or the “best way” argument. He accepts the unprovable assumption that an evolving creation was “the only way that God could give rise to the sort of beauty, diversity, sentience, and sophistication of creatures that the biosphere now contains” (p. 16). He develops this argument by discussing God’s co-suffering with creation and the expectation that God will compensate the victims of evolution in the coming new creation.

Throughout the book, Southgate helpfully interacts with the views of other authors. His book ends with the pros and cons of, and proposals for, human intervention into the environment in order to save species from extinction.

Southgate’s book is accessible to the any reader. Scholarly pieces of discussion have been left to the end notes, resulting in fifty pages of end notes for 133 pages of text. Unfortunately, the text is identified at the top of each odd-numbered page by chapter names, and the endnotes are identified only by chapter numbers, deliberately making the endnotes even more difficult to find. The book also has a twelve-page index.

This is obviously not a book for Young Earth Creationists, since an old earth and evolution are presumed. It is accessible even for those without expertise in biological sciences or systematic theology. I recommend this book for Christians who are struggling with how to integrate biological evolution into their Biblical faith
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A wise book 4 août 2014
Par M. Neuman - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Other reviews on Amazon call The Groaning of Creation: God, Evolution, and the Problem of Evil, helpful. I agree. It makes a positive and insightful contribution to the discussion of the relationship of science and faith. Author Christopher Southgate, a research fellow at the University of Exeter, England, explores the ambiguity of evolutionary creation that is at the same time "very good" (Genesis 1:31) and predatory and extinguishing of species -- a place and state of pain, suffering, and death. Careful in building his case, Southgate proposes steps for human beings to take to make this a better world.
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A lot of words and thoughts, but few answers 29 mars 2015
Par unkleE - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
The problem of evil is a very difficult topic, and accepting evolution takes away some of the explanations christian may offer. I can't help feeling that the best way to deal with the problem is to admit it and accept it - it is indeed a difficulty, and on its own is a good reason to disbelieve in a loving God. But of course it isn't the only evidence we have about God, and almost everything else I know (the universe, humanity, Jesus and human experience) all provide stronger evidence of a good God. So I can believe without understanding this problem.

But Christopher Southgate attempts a more difficult task, to justify why God has created a world where so much evil occurs. I think he has some very worthwhile thoughts, but in the end I don't think he succeeds in explaining this difficulty, as I think he himself knows. And I found a lot of his discussion was written in theology-speak with words and concepts that were speculative and based on ideas of what God might be like, but without any real foundation. I can't imagine anyone who was inclined to scepticism finding it satisfactory.

It was worthwhile reading (though only just) because at least I have now seen what is probably the best attempt to explain this difficulty, and because his discussion in the last couple of chapters of human stewardship of creation, vegetarianism, global warming and species extinction introduced to me some new and very helpful christian approaches to issues I have only read about from a ecological perspective.

If you enjoy theological speculation you may get more out of this than I did, but otherwise I think you may find it difficult going.
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