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  • ISBN-10: 0062068695
  • ISBN-13: 978-0062068699
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The Long War est le digne successeur de The Long Earth: aussi bon. L'action prend lieu des années après la fin du premier tome et nous lance dans le conflit emmergent entre les différentes versions de la Terre, la Datum Earth n'étant pas très friande des volonté d'indépendance de ses "petites soeurs".
Le scénario est bon les personnages également, on obtient quelques reponses mais surtout des tonnes de questions en prévision de la suite, en bonus il est assez simple à lire.
Bref si vous avez aimé le 1er tome : courrez et si vous ne connaissez pas ça vaut vraiement le coup.
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J'ai préféré The Long World à cette suite. Mais c'est pas mal non plus et on ne s'ennuie pas. Tout dans l'histoire laisse à croire qu'une suite est prévue...
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Don't bother 20 juin 2013
Par Mark Folashade - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Look, I really really liked the Long Earth because it introduced a new concept that I'd never encountered before when reading science fiction. Sure there have been other stories with parallel worlds but I haven't come across anything that approaches the scale introduced by the first book. So you can imagine my excitement when I learned that a sequel was coming out and I didn't let the 3 star rating deter me. I should have.

There's nothing new in the Long Earth, no exploration of new concepts to captivate the imagination. You catch a glimpse of it when there's a wild tale told about distant earths beyond the "meggers" with no moon, different colored suns, when you're told a story by one of the characters in the book of a pioneer who steps "wrong", maybe another direction other than east or west, and ends up in a place where the stars are inverted or whatever. Hell there's even a tingle of excitement when you see the ray guns for the first time and maybe think the characters will run into another equivalent or beyond tech level civilization. Even the few none ape like sentient like races were interesting but the most disappointing part of the book is that they never go anywhere with these ideas. It's like they spend most of the bloody book moralizing about how awful we're treating the singing apes or how the notion of old america is obsolete.

This book, for me at least, had so much potential and I really wanted to like it but if you treasure the Long Earth and don't want to stain your memory of the series I'd advice you to save your money with this book. I'd give it a 2.5 star rating if I could but I'll make do with a 2.
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Ultimately sort of directionless 6 juillet 2013
Par Karl A. Schmidt - Publié sur Amazon.com
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If you've read The Long Earth, you might expect this book to carry on the plot thread about the major existential threat that is introduced near the end of that book. You will discover quickly in The Long War that that idea has been all but forgotten.

The Long War expands the cast of The Long Earth, bringing back nearly all the supporting characters and introducing a few new ones. Like its predecessor, The Long War doesn't really do anything with most of them. There are some subplots that have been carried over from TLE, for example the Nelson Azikiwe plot, that persist in not really having anything happen in them. Other, new subplots (like the China mission) suffer from the same malady.

The glacial pace of these subplots, and, by extension, the overarching plot of the series, would be more understandable and excusable if the books were longer, or were developing a more nuanced arrangement of elements. However, with the characters mostly being explicitly variations on the same basic worthy archetypes (socially enlightened loner/pioneer, socially enlightened maverick captain, socially enlightened female loner/pioneer, socially enlightened AI, etc.) there's not much opportunity for any real conflict between them. The "conflict" that does develop is mainly between individual humans and some circumstance of whatever alternate Earth or group thereof those humans find themselves; there's always a feeling of arbitrariness about the way these encounters play out. Later on in the story, it was hard for me to shake the feeling that certain events were the authors' way of writing themselves back out of a corner. There's some foreshadowing of the potential future importance of some of the characters, but given the way the foreshadowing in the first book was subverted here, I wouldn't be surprised if those characters spent Book Three asleep. This would be more forgivable if TLE and TLW weren't all setup.

Another thing I want to touch on quickly is that although I know that Terry Pratchett has a good ear for comic dialogue on his own (I have read none of Stephen Baxter's solo work, so I can't comment on that), as a pair, these authors cannot write convincing character dialogue for this sort of story. Also, the dialogue of the main characters--Joshua, Monica, Helen, and Sally--is not credible as the speech of human beings, much less so of Americans, and of Wisconsinites in no way whatsoever.

The core conceit of the Long Earth series (humans develop the ability to travel through a theoretically-infinite range of parallel Earths with alternate histories on a geologic/cosmic time scale, and therefore with more-or-less widely divergent geographies and ecosystems) is still fun, though, even two books in. If you get past the characters and the plot, there are a lot of nifty thought experiments scattered throughout.
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a little let down 30 juin 2013
Par carl - Publié sur Amazon.com
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i'll start by saying the only thing I've ever read by Stephen Baxter was "The Long Earth" while I've read just about everything Terry Pratchett's ever written. So it's possible I just prefer a complete Pratchett book to this collaborative style. This had all the elements of a great book - solid premise, sprawling plot, and several vignettes that all intertwine. However, the writing is clumsy. I've heard before that an author should show you how a person feels - not just tell you. Well there is way too much dumbed down explanation of every feeling each character has instead of describing how they show said feelings. The characters are also cartoonish - "hardened cop with heart of gold", "hardened captain with heart of gold", "hardened adventurer with heart of gold", "evil republican with heart of turds". Also, to be fair, the title is misleading. Also some vignettes seem to add little... well nothing actually... to the story.

This feels like a jumbled, quickly written, poorly fleshed out book that is to serve as a bridge to whatever the next chapter in this series is. I see no reason to buy this new and in hardback.
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Too Much Baxter, Not Enough Pratchett 20 juin 2013
Par James D. DeWitt - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This is a long, boring sequel to the moderately interesting The Long Earth. If Terry Pratchett had anything to do with this snoozer, he didn't leave any of his trademark humor, skilled writing or tension between the covers.

It's ten years after the events of the first book. There are few new characters and those who are new aren't very interesting. If they do show signs of being interesting, they disappear before anything exciting happens to them. There are a few new ideas, but they aren't very compelling. Some events, like the the new China's expedition, are abandoned. The one moderately interesting character, the preternaturally intelligent teenager, Roberta Golding, disappears as a character in the last third of the book. And, once again, creating tension and suspense seems to happen only as an afterthought.

If I were Sir Terry, I'd be embarrassed to have my name associated with this novel. Far, far too much Stephen Baxter; precious little, if any, Terry Pratchett.
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Most boring book with T.Pratchett`s name on cover - by far 8 octobre 2013
Par Jara - Publié sur Amazon.com
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I am not very experienced with writting reviews, but i feel i should warn you all about this book.

First thing, i don`t think it has anything to do with Terry Pratchett. I have read almost all books written by Terry, i believe i get most of his jokes, and i like his style {and phrasing] a lot. I didn`t detect almost any of that in this book. There might be some of his wisdom in it, but if it is don`t expect to find it at every page. If Terry was responsible for all the good ideas in this book, i imagine he told it to the actual writter in a restaurant over dinner. The author might have made lots notes at the dinner, but later did not expand on the ideas but jsut mentioned them in seemingly appropriate places in the book.

After reading the Long Earth i did not expect the The Long War to be really Good, i was expecting another average. But the Long War does not deliver even that. The story {or perhaps i should say the stories, as the problems that humankind face are not related, do not evolve, and do not connect too much] has no structure, no suspension, solutions to problems mostly got solved by asking for another chance nicely.

There is no threat, no villans, almost no evil people in this book. No suspension. If you are like me, you will wait until the end for the actual story to emerge. In the meantime you will try to survive on the mensions of diferent versions of Earth, ideas on how things would have end up if this or if that happened in a parallel universe. (which is interesting, but certainly not enough to make an enticing book)

The Long War visits same places as the Lond Earth, works with the same ideas and same stories, but nothing is developed. The ruins of the dead civilization are visited again, but nothing is learned. We learn that there were scientists, but found nothing for years and left. Then someone comes in, opens secret door with a key, takes laser guns. Then we learn nothing else again. The First Person singular is mentioned few times in the book. No one worries about him too much yet - it would appear he is willing to wait for the next book to become a problem. (or, at this speed, book 12)

The Long Earth was a promising framework. There is literally endless changing environment for a realistic sci-fi/social stories. Coexistence of species. Conflicts, culture and technology exchanging. Treasure searching in different civilizations. What would happen to Earth if half of people left. How would it affect our society and relations if we could easily change where we are. How would battles go. But the Long war uses very little of that. Instead you learn what would live on earth if Pterodactyl did not evolve.

I was going to say, lets wait for the next book if the storytelling starts anew. But while writing this i realized it will never be good. Even if the author decides to have an exciting story, the characters are single sided and not belieavable the the societies and their interactions are not realistic.

Even if you think The Long Earth was OK, skip The Long War. The coherent story from the book 1 and the promises from the cover are deceiving.
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