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After cutting his teeth on Inferno! and Warhammer Monthly (the only comic book ever to win an Eagle Award and be canceled in the same week), Christian Dunn spent many years as the Commissioning Editor of both Black Flame and Solaris. He is now safely ensconced back in the bosom of Black Library as their Range Development Editor where runs the e-book, Print on Demand and audio ranges, as well as being responsible for unearthing new writing talent.

He lives in Nottingham, England and always keeps a freshly greased chainsaw under his pillow in anticipation of the inevitable zombie apocalypse.



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  • Poche: 416 pages
  • Editeur : Games Workshop (29 mai 2012)
  • Collection : Horus Heresy
  • Langue : Anglais
  • ISBN-10: 9781849702089
  • ISBN-13: 978-1849702089
  • ASIN: 184970208X
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Format: Poche Achat vérifié
Cet anthologie s'attarde plus sur les primarques, du moins quatre d'entre eux. La lecture et les styles d'écritures sont plutôt agréables et certaines histoires, notamment celle avec l'Alpha legion, sont vraiment intéressantes.
Ce livre ne fait pas avancer l'histoire de l'hérésie dans son ensemble, mais c'est une petite pause très appréciable, en espérant que les prochains bouquins feront avancer l'intrigue.
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A poor entry in the series... 25 juin 2012
Par Enyn - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Poche
All in all I have to say this entry in the HH series is a true let-down. I understand the Black Library would like to keep it's cash cow mooing right along, but more and more I'm seeing entries into this series that have nothing to add to the epic storylines laid out in the first several books. None of the four novellas in this volume contribute anything significant to my understanding of the primarchs they center around. (Spoiler Alerts)

The first story deals with Fulgrim, primarch of the Emperor's Children legion. Taking place shortly after Isstvan V, it depicts depravity, excess, indulgence, and a prolonged torture sequence that made me feel like I was reading the script of a snuff film. I can't help but feel that most fans are well aware of the horrors of the burgeoning 40k universe in this series, but what I would find more compelling is the effect of this on its inhabitants rather than just more depictions the horror- it should be made to matter to the characters, to impact them. The non-revelation at the end was a poor payoff for enduring this tripe. McNeill should be ashamed to put this out- he's better than this.

The second novella concerns an ordeal Ferrus Manus, primarch of the Iron Hands, endures at the hands of an Eldar farseer. Nick Kyme makes little effort to set this in a context of the greater events unfolding in the series- seriously, change some names and you could easily set this in any 40k novel. That's the problem I had with Salamander, the first in his trilogy centering around the Salamanders chapter- it, too, had little context in the greater setting- I had problems trying to understand why the story was going on. Same here in the story about Ferrus and his Iron Hands. The battle scenes were adequate- watching the Eldar turn the Iron Hands' supposed strength against them was interesting- but little else was compelling. I have to say this is more from a growing trend in the HH series rather than poor writing; the plot device of using a character burdened with a terrible foresight trying to warn another character about to be destroyed. This could be compelling, but when we, as readers of the previous books, know what is going to happen to the character destined for said destruction regardless of the warnings, it becomes less compelling and suspenseful and more "why bother". The Outcast Dead by McNeill was a HH novel that revolved wholly around this concept. Why write a whole story revolving around warning someone we know will be ignoring it, sealing a fate we already know of? More importantly, why read it?

The third tale involves Lion El'Jonson, primarch of the Dark Angels. This was the most compelling of the stories, and actually added a bit to our knowledge of this brooding leader. It was well paced, with harrowing combat and conflict, and the Lion was shown as a leader and a contemplator. Although we've all seen the "Geller-field-is-down-here-come-the-daemons" sequences, the one in this tale is pretty intense. A good entry, hinting at turmoil to come, so it does contain a bit of context from the greater weaving of the overall epic. I enjoyed this one.

The last story, by Rob Sanders, deals with the twin primarchs of the Alpha Legion. I wish I could say I could see what he was trying to depict, but I can't. This entry was a mess, from it's convoluted beginning to an ending that beggars belief. One of the twins, Omegon, is concerned with an information leak at a secret Alpha Legion installation. He secures and employs numerous assets to...(I can't believe I'm writing this) infiltrate and destroy their own base from within. It made as much sense to me as a general ordering a shock-and-awe strike against one of our own aircraft carriers to handle a black marketeer dealing in bootleg footwear. The story abounds with odd decisions and questionable actions. I understand that the Alpha Legion is known as the spy/ subterfuge legion, sitting like a bloated spider at the center of a web of information and deceit that spans the galaxy, but this novella didn't depict that legion- it depicted the paranoid-schizophrenic multiple personality disorder legion we were led to believe was the Alpha Legion...I think...
If this is typical of Sanders' work, I can't say I'm enthused to try it again.

Disappointing when taken in whole, with the story about Lion El'jonson the diamond in the rough here, I have to say it's a poor entry in the Horus Heresy series. It would have been one star, but for the Lion's story, so two stars.
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Let Down 1 juin 2012
Par Amazon Customer - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Poche Achat vérifié
I will always be a fan of the Horus Heresy books and snap up every new novel that comes down but this one was a disappointment. I'm just tired of the same old empty stories about the same old Legions. When will we get a story about the Salamanders or a book devoted to the Imperial Fists the heroes of the Battle of Terra? As a previous review stated this collection of stories much like the two previous anthologies in the series didn't really go anywhere or expand upon anything we didn't already know. I feel like Black Library is just dragging out this story-line to maximize profit and book sales. Buy it for the collection but not for the entertainment. I hope the next two books out this summer are more satisfying and gripping then the stories in this collection.
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Horus Heresy book chronology 19 octobre 2012
Par Thomas Lau - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Poche
This list has been updated up to Betrayer (due to book sizes I only buy paperbacks).

Instead of giving you another needless review about how good or bad the Horus Heresy book is, instead I wanted to give my fellow readers the option to see what the books really do offer. This list contains the most current books `Shadows of Treachery'. I will try to keep it up to date (I will try to read the newest book as soon as I can) and update it within a short period of time.

Now to the fun part. Due to the Horus Heresy not having overly clear timelines or precise timelines (pick whichever you prefer to call it) I had to create a semi-timeline. The actual timeline is not to scale and only contains major events that have occurred in the book series.

Guide:
Each Legion has its own section that shows which book has been attributed to it. The problem with this is that I focused primarily on the main Legion. So I apologize if other Legions were present but not really shown in this chronology. If you see a book title with parenthesis it means the book title and the short story name. The numbers relate to the chronology of the series as well as to the image showing where each book fits.
Furthermore, as a visual help / fun sheet please feel free to look at the picture attached to this review.

Here are the events that I noticed and thought would be important to mention:
First Founding
Beginning of the Great Crusade
Censoring of Lorgar
Counsel of Nikea
Ullanor Crusade
Davin Incidence
Isstvan III massacre
Isstvan V massacre
Calth
Siege of Terra
Death of Horus

Legion I - Dark Angels - Lion El'Johnson
(1) Descent of Angels - Crusade
(2) Fallen Angels - around Isstvan III
(3) Tales of Heresy (Call of the Lion) - before Isstvan III
(4) Age of Darkness (Savage Weapons) - after Isstvan V
(5) The Primarchs (The Lion) - after Savage Weapons

Legion III - Emperor's Children - Fulgrim
(1) Fulgrim - From Counsel of Nikea to Isstvan V
(2) The Primarchs (The Reflection Crack'd) - after Fulgrim
(3) Angel Exterminatus - After Isstvan V

Legion IV - Iron Warriors - Perturabo
(1) Age of Darkness (The Iron Within) - after Isstvan V
(2) Angel Exterminatus - After Isstvan V and Age of Darkness

Legion V - White Scars - Jaghatai Khan

Legion VI - Space Wolves - Leman Russ
(1) Tales of Heresy (Wolf at the Door) - before Prosporo Burns
(2) Prospero Burns - Council of Nikea to after Davin Incident

Legion VII - Imperial Fists - Rogal Dorn
(1) Shadows of Treachery (The Crimson King) - just before Isstvan III
(2) Shadows of Treachery (The Lightning Tower) - during The Crimson King
(3) Age of Darkness (The Last Remembrancer) - after Isstvan V

Legion VIII - Night Lords - Konrad Curze
(1) Shadows of Treachery (The Dark King) - before Isstvan III
(2) Age of Darkness (Savage Weapons) - after Isstvan V
(3) Shadows of Treachery (Prince of Crows) - after Savage Weapons

Legion IX - Blood Angels - Sanguinius
(1) Fear to Tread - prior to Isstvan III

Legion X - Iron Hands - Ferrus Manus
(1) The Primarchs (Feat of Iron) - during Crusade
(2) Angel Exterminatus - after Isstvan V

Legion XII - World Eaters - Angron
(1) Tales of Heresy (After Desh'ea) - during Great Crusade
(2) Age of Darkness (Rebirth) - after Prospero Burns
(3) Age of Darkness (The Face of Treachery) - after Isstvan V & Prospero Burns
(4) Betrayer - After Calth and Battle for the Abyss

Legion XIII - Ultramarines - Roboute Guilliman
(1) Age of Darkness (Rules of Engagement) - after Isstvan V
(2) Age of Darkness (Forgotten Sons) - after Isstvan V & before Know no Fear
(3) Know no Fear - Calth
(4) Betrayer - after Calth

Legion XIV - Death Guard - Mortarion
(1) The Flight of the Eisenstein - Isstvan III

Legion XV - Thousand Sons - Magnus
(1) A Thousand Sons - from Ulannor Crusade to after Davin Incident
(2) Age of Darkness (Rebirth) - after Isstvan V & Prospero Burns

Legion XVI - Luna Wolves - Horus
(1) Horus Rising - Counsel of Nikea
(2) False Gods - Davin Incidence
(3) Galaxy in Flames - Isstvan III
(4) Age of Darkness (Little Horus) - after Isstvan V

Legion XVII - Word Bearers - Lorgar
(1) The First Heretic - Lorgar's turning
(2) Tales of Heresy (Scion of the Storm) - during First Heretic
(3) Battle for the Abyss - before Calth
(4) Know No Fear - Calth incident
(5) Betrayer - After Calth

Legion XVIII - Salamanders - Vulkan
(1) Age of Darkness (Forgotten Sons) - after Isstvan V & before Know no Fear

Legion XIX - Raven Guard - Corax
(1) Deliverance Lost - Isstvan V
(2) Age of Darkness (The Face of Treachery) - early part of Deliverance
(3) Shadows of Treachery (Raven's Flight) - early part of Deliverance

Legion XX - Alpha Legion - Alpharius & Omegon
(1) Legion - pre-Davin Incidence
(2) The Primarchs (The Serpent Beneath) - after Deliverance

Miscellaneous
(1) Tales of Heresy (The Last Church) - Emperor - pre Great Crusade
(2) Tales of Heresy (The Voice) - Sisters of Silence - pre Davin Incident
(3) Shadows of Treachery (Death of a Silversmith) - Remembrancer - Either during Horus Rising or False Gods
(4) Mechanicum - Mechanicum - after Isstvan III
(5) The Kaban Project - Mechanicum - shortly before Mechanicum
(6) Tales of Heresy (Blood Games) - Custodes - after Isstvan III or even Isstvan V
(7) Age of Darkness (Liar's Due) - Heretic - after Isstvan V
(8) Nemesis - Imperial Assassins - after Isstvan V
(9) Outcast Dead - Loyalist / traitors on Terra - during Isstvan V
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Good, but uneven... 29 mai 2012
Par JPS - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Poche
It is sometimes amusing to see how two reviewers can feel more or less the same about a book, although disagreeing on its contents. This book includes four novellas on four different primarchs. some are great. Others, less so. To a large extent, whether you find them "good" or "bad" is up to personal preferences.

First of all, all of the novellas are "fillers" build around Isstvan V to some extent, although only one of them - the one abiout Ferrus Manus - deals with events before this massacre. This is, for me also, one of the weakest, despite being still interesting because you learn about the Iron Hands Legion (or, at least I learned a few things about them). This is largely because you expect something to happen but it doesn't, apart from a couple of unconclusive fights, so you may end up by being somewhat disappointed (at least I was). You also don't learn much more about Ferrus Manus himself than what you can find in other books of the HH series: he tends to be arrogant and somewhat rash, to put it mildly, and, to me, this novella did not really have anything new to add about him.

Contrary to the other reviewer, the novella that I liked the less was the novella on the Emperor's Children and on Fulgrim. I liked the fact that Graham McNeill gives center stage to Lucius and tells us more about him. I found that what happened to Eidolon and the way that the fight between Fulgrim and his daemon is resolved were both rather implausible, although I cannot say much more without spoiling the story for others.

I rather liked the novella on the Lion - a Primarch that has never been among my personal favorites. This is because the author shows how Lion's growing paranoïa clouds his judgement little by little to the effect that, in his view, Roboute is no better than Horus. It also shows Lion's tendency to "me toism" and his ambiguïty. Rather than taking sides in a fight opposing the Empire and the rebels and attacking a splinter group of the Death Guard while supporting a war band of the Iron Hands, he separates them and takes possession of the prize that they both were trying to grab for themselves. In addition, the author quite obviously, but also rather nicely, shows us how Lion's state of mind shifts as a result of the HH, preparing us for the future climax of the return of the Lion to Caliban...

The last novella on the Alpha Legion and Omegon (rather than Alpharius) was also interesting to hte extent that we get a few good glimpses of their infiltration and subversion tactics (for instance against the White Scars or the snatching of a Mechanicum official). However, the main piece of the story - and its end - are less plausible. I am still not convinced that the best way to protect a top secret project suffering from a leak is to infiltrate and attack one's own base. Omegon's ultimate deceptions were also rather far-fetched in my view. Where they really necessary?

So Fulgrim, Ferrus Manus, Lion and Omegon (and Alpharius but to a lesser extent), these are the four primarchs included in this book, which is good, overall. It's a pity, however, that we didn't learn more about the Khan or Sanguinius, for instance, although I understand that, in the latter's case, an HH novel is going to address this issue shortly...
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The Primarchs "Collectable" 6 juillet 2012
Par James C - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Poche Achat vérifié
I must begin by disclosing that I have all the Horus Heresy novels. I have thoroughly enjoyed each and every one of them. Which brings me to the most recent installment "The Primarchs." I enjoyed it every bit as much as the others because the authors of these novels are very familiar to me. It's kind of like having a conversation with an old friend over a hot cup of joe. That having said, I'm beginning to believe my favorite authors are starting to "string out" this story line. It reminds me of another line of novels concerning the Rapture and the Anti-Christ. That story line was strung out also; ad nauseum. I do hope these authors don't do the same thing. But it's beginning to look like it. Don't get me wrong for a moment, the stories in "The Primarchs" are every bit as good as the rest. But I believe, as one of my fellow reviewers, that if we are going to string this out, let's have some new material and story lines. No one has touched the "White Scars and the Khan." Or "Conrad Kruze and the Night Lords." In my opinion, we've concentrated on these few Chapters, i.e. Word Bearers, Emperor's Children, etc. for long enough. There is a wealth of material that has not been explored. The story line could really take off if this "new" material was mined. In closing, by all means, buy this latest installment to keep continuity. You won't be disappointed.
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