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The Red Book - A Reader`s Edition [Anglais] [Imitation cuir]

C. G. Jung , Sonu Shamdasani , John Peck , Mark Kyburz

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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Now you have to READ it! 15 décembre 2012
Par Lance S. Owens - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Imitation cuir|Achat authentifié par Amazon
Before reading any further, note: This a review of the READER'S edition - and the Reader's Edition DOES NOT include the facsimile images (art and calligraphy) of the original "Red Book: Liber Novus." I suspect many of those who ordered the book unaware of this will be surprised and disappointed. This distinction was not made clear in Amazon pre-publication information. If you wish to see the original book in all its visual glory, pay the price and order the complete folio-sized facsimile edition.

So, why then publish, and why purchase, a "Reader's Edition"? Why is the this edition important, even essential?

Because the text of "Liber Novus" (as Jung formally titled his "Red Book") is really more important than the art. Jung experienced and recorded his visions and then composed his draft manuscript of Liber Novus before beginning on the art. The art and calligraphy came later, they were composed over the following 16 years or so. The text - compiled principally between 1914 and 1915, with a last section added in 1917 - is Jung's primary record of his extraordinary odyssey across the threshold of consciousness, and into the heart of mythopoetic vision. As he said: "This inner world is truly infinite, in no way poorer than the outer one. Man lives in two worlds." This is the journal of Jung's exploration of the inner world - and it ranks as one of the most important journeys of exploration in the record of human exploration. Dr. Shamdasani, who spent thirteen years editing Liber Novus for publication, has strongly suggested that one should read the text before even looking at the images. I agree.

If you are ready to start that reading, there is another reason this "Reader's Edition" is an essential purchase: the big folio edition of "The Red Book: Liber Novus" is huge and physically very difficult to read. Holding it on your lap, or finding a way to prop it up and read it, is a painful task. God have mercy if you wear bifocals! This edition is formatted in a normal book size, and allows a more comfortable reading experience (if reading Liber Novus can ever be a "comfortable" experience). You will not be disappointed with the beauty of this smaller edition; it is bound "bible style" in soft faux leather with rounded corners, and printed using three colors of ink to add the distinctions in headings and text (this replicates the style of the folio edition). And of course, there is a marker ribbon sewn into the binding. I have no idea how such a finely crafted book can be sold at this price.

But the text is much more difficult to meet than is the beautiful art. The calligraphy and artwork are immediately stunning, even overwhelming. I know - based on the several seminars about Liber Novus I have taught over the last three years - that most people simply never make it past this visual experience; they do not read Jung's account of what happened to him between 1913 and 1916.

What confounds 
the reader now is the same 
issue that confronted Jung 
then: Though imaginative, 
mythic, apparently fictive, and ultimately subjective, what Jung met in his wanderings spoke with the voice of an objective fact. It was independent, ineffably ancient, and yet intimately and synchronously involved with human history. He perceived it as real, and the story it told had the tenor of a revelation. Without some introduction, some guiding insight into what the man was doing, most readers become quickly disoriented.

To guide your first journey through Liber Novus, I highly suggest you start by reading (again) Jung's biographical memoir, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections." At very least, study again Chapter 6, "Confrontation with the Unconscious." Then closely read Shamdasani's very fine introductory essay that prefaces Jung's text in this Reader's Edition. Next, get Dr. Shamdasani's beautiful new book, "C. G. Jung: A Biography in Books" - you will see my full review of that volume on the Amazon product page. After that, there are several hours of free lectures online from my seminars on Liber Novus. Thousands of people have them found useful, and you can find them easily by searching online for "The Red Book Lectures" or "C.G. Jung and the Red Book."

Then, read. Take it slowly, give it deep consideration. It is quite a journey.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 A great book. I suggest printing another version with the illustrations but without all the commentary 3 février 2013
Par Michael Laurie - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Imitation cuir
This is a great book.

I had not read Carl Jung since reading Man and His Symbols decades ago and loving it. Over the years I have seen references to Jung in a wide range of publications so I knew I needed to return to reading more of his writing. And this holy grail from which many of his ideas sprang is ideal.

I appreciate the effort to create a lower cost version of the large red book.

But I suggest creating another low cost version that includes the illustrations as clearly many others would like. And I suggest the way to save on the cost would be to create that illustrated version without the 123 pages of scholarly comment, prefaces, and extensive footnotes. I would much rather see the illustrations than all those comments by others than Carl Jung. Here is quote from the book that addresses my thinking. page 133, "...since the soul is everywhere that scholarly knowledge is not."

I respect the scholarly effort but wading through 123 pages of it before finally getting to read Jung's words was just too much.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 outstanding 22 mars 2013
Par Don - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Imitation cuir|Achat authentifié par Amazon
I am amazed at this man's mind. He is brilliant. This book does not have the pictures like the big red book, just the text. The red book with the pictures cost a lot more money. This is still very worthy of your time without the pictures. Don't turn away from this amazing book because of the lack of pictures. Buy it, read it, learn from it, then get the full version later.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Reader's Edition - worthwhile investment to accompany the full version 19 février 2013
Par Taylor Saporito - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Imitation cuir|Achat authentifié par Amazon
To re-iterate - this is NOT the full version with all the beautiful paintings and illuminated text. If you're buying it for the pretty pictures, it's going to cost you more than twenty dollars. Also, ignore any one star reviews that are just complaining because they didn't take the time to read the description and use common sense.

I bought this for what it is, a portable translation of the Red Book. I already own the full sized facsimile version. While that version is inexplicably beautiful, it is impossible to carry, difficult to read for extended periods, and too expensive to let people borrow, let alone touch without washing their hands.

The Reader's Edition is the size and build of a decently made bible. Those who portray this as a con are likely just venting because they didn't read the description and were expecting the full sized color version with illustrations. This is just the translation. But the imitation leather is comfortable, the pages are reasonably thick, a lot of text in a manageable size. This is like a bible you would pay for, not like the bibles that get shoved in your hands at universities and music festivals.

This book travels well, is inexpensive enough to make handwritten notes in, and is much easier to read. The translation in the full-sized version is an ordeal to read though hunched over a coffee table, but this one is portable enough to absorb into.

As for the content, many other reviewers stated it better than I could, but this is a must have for any fan of Jung. This is the primordial soup that birthed the theories that made him famous. The visions are the closest we'll get to the dream journal on Jung's bedside table. Sonu Shamdasani is handling his legacy beautifully, and gives very insightful, comprehensive commentary, and a very thorough foreword that puts all other Jung biographies to shame.

If you're a casual reader, I'd pick up "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" first. It offers a great autobiographical history on Jung as well as summary of his theories. If you like the "Seven Sermons to the Dead" bit at the end, then consider buying the Red Book, "Sermons" is a good example of what the Red Book is.

The Philemon foundation is doing an excellent job. They put out high quality versions of existing and unreleased Jung material, and will likely keep me entertained, engaged, and shelling out my disposable income for many years to come. My only request is that they make a collector's version of the Red Book actually bound in leather, with just the scans of the illuminated script. That would make the original publication lie in the middle, with the readers edition on the other end.

Six stars if I could. Would lend to a friend and buy another copy if they didn't return it.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 An amazing Book! 2 juillet 2013
Par John F.D. Taff - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format:Imitation cuir|Achat authentifié par Amazon
I wanted The Red Book in hardcover, with all the spectacular illustrations. But this will do until I want to spend $150 on a book. Well put together, with a fake leather cover, this is a heady, trippy book filled with some ideas that will explode your head...in a good way.
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