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  • CD (3 octobre 2011)
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Pour réagir à l'autre commentaire, il faut bien préciser que nous parlons effectivement du PREMIER album de DT qui date de 1989! Autant dire qu'à cette époque-là, à part Queensryche et Fate's Warning, personne d'autre n'officiait dans le registre que DT s'offrait d'aborder. En cela, écouter cet album après tous les autres peut certes décevoir, je le conçois, mais il faut bien savoir qu'à sa sortie (que j'ai connue), c'était déjà une bombe en puissance. Les morceaux sont impeccables : Fortune in lies est un chef d'oeuvre, the Ytse Jam un classique absolu du groupe, et les autres compos furieusement addictives. Je préfère la production de cet album à celle, plus froide et trop métallique par moments, de Images and Words. Quant au chanteur d'alors, s'il n'a pas le côté intimiste de Labrie (indépassable dans ce type de registre), il est techniquement bien meilleur (n'oublions pas que Labrie ne tient souvent pas la route en live).

Quoi qu'il en soit, on peut aller en toute confiance vers cette première borne, qui reste passionnante et d'une grande densité vingt ans après (ce qui n'est pas le cas de tous les albums de cette année-là, souvent datés) : reste à n'avoir aucun a priori et à prendre cette oeuvre pour ce qu'elle est, sans la comparer d'emblée aux albums postérieurs, qu'elle pourtant porte bel et bien en germe lorsque l'on y fait bien attention.
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Ah, il faut bien commencer un jour, n'est-ce pas? Et non, Dream Theater n'a pas démarré sa carrière discographique avec un chef-d'oeuvre! Le groupe a attendu le deuxième album pour ça... Alors, c'est sûr, si on a connu "Images and Words" (1992) ou "Awake" (1994) avant ce "When Dream and Day Unite" (1989), l'écoute de ce dernier peut s'avérer décevante.

"When Dream and Day Unite" n'est pourtant pas un mauvais album. Mais il souffre d'une production très en dessous de celle des albums suivants, et surtout, d'un chanteur (Charlie Dominici) qui est à des années lumières de James LaBrie... mais pas dans le bon sens! Les compositions ne sont pas toutes démentes non plus, mais certaines sont tout de même assez remarquables ou intéressantes. D'ailleurs, quand on les entend "live" chantées par James LaBrie, elles s'avèrent tout à fait convaincantes. Ceux qui ont le "Live at the Marquee" savent à quel point "A Fortune in Lies" ou "The Killing Hand" participent à la qualité de ce disque. L'instrumental "The Ytse Jam" n'est pas mal non plus, et "Afterlife" ou "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun" (qui contient quelques belles idées) sortent également du lot sans totalement nous éblouir non plus.

Du potentiel donc... et une maitrise instrumentale déjà remarquable. Mais en 1989, le groupe démarrait et était encore tout jeune. Le temps leur laissera le soin d'améliorer leurs compositions, d'affiner leur style, de gagner en maturité... et de se trouver un chanteur autrement plus impressionnant (sur album du moins)! En 1992, la bombe "Images and Words" allait mettre tout le monde d'accord... et le groupe se retrouvera alors propulsé à la tête du mouvement prog metal.
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HASH(0x9bac9c78) étoiles sur 5 The sensational (and underrated) debut. 13 février 2001
Par Lord Chimp - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
The fact that Dream Theater's nucleus (guitarist John Petrucci, bassist John Myung, drummer Mike Portnoy, and keyboardist Kevin Moore) were able to produce an album like this in their very early 20s is astonishing. Implementing various influences, most prominently those of Rush and Queensryche, Dream Theater became one of the torchbearers for the progressive metal movement. The instrumental faculty they display at this early stage in their careers in amazing, and their creativity is incredible. From the progressive metal trappings of "A Fortune in Lies" to the dazzling feat of virtuosity that is "Ytse Jam" to the grandiose, gorgeous epic "The Killing Hand," Dream Theater shows that they are a band with talent, brains, and ingenuity.
There's a slight element of 80s' cheese, especially with Charlie Dominici's vocal style and the amusing pop-metal banality of "Status Seeker," but it doesn't undermine the album's inherent quality. Dominici's voice, however, lacks the skill, power, and emotion that Dream Theater's music necessitates. (He's not awful, he just doesn't fit the music too well.) It's also unfortunate that the record's production can't complement the band's fervor. Terry Date is generally a fine producer, so I attribute the rotten production to the low budget with which this album was made.
If you're a Dream Theater fan, you owe it to yourself to own this one. It has some of their best songs (especially the phenomenal "The Killing Hand"), and you can gloss over the shortcomings with your love for this band. If you new to Dream Theater and looking for a place to start, DON'T BUY THIS ALBUM. The crappy production and iffy vocals may turn you off of the finest progressive metal band on the planet. Get Images and Words instead. It's a good place to begin.
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HASH(0x9bad11a4) étoiles sur 5 4.5 stars - For a debut album, this is definitely milestone material 23 août 2005
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When Dream & Day Unite(1989). Dream Theater's debut studio album.

Most fans already know the story of Dream Theater: how the band originally started as "Majesty" but had to change it at a later time due to another existing band already using the name, how it was formed by virtuoso musicians John Petrucci(guitars), Mike Portnoy(drums), Kevin Moore(keyboards), and John Myung(bass), and how the original vocalist Chris Collins makes this album's Charlie Dominici sound like Bruce Dickinson in comparison to him(trust me on this). So I won't divulge much on that.

The first thing I noticed when listening to all the albums again is how much each album doesn't sound like the ones before and after it, yet they still maintain the signature style DT is known for. The same applies with WD&DU. It certainly doesn't have the clean and polished sound that Images & Words(1992), Awake(1994), and any of their later albums have, and the band hasn't quite found their niche yet. Its low budget production quality may be to blame for the lack of a top-end treble and bass, but the decent remastering job does help this. There is a real rawness and a sense of "urgency" in the debut's sound that hasn't been prevalent since then, and for this you can tell that DT didn't take the music too seriously and just wanted to rock out. Though DT were certainly influenced by many different bands most of these influences hadn't surfaced quite yet, and so at this point DT carried a sound which resembled a mid-80s Rush with 70s Rush's songwriting style and Queensryche's metallic edge. The fact that Dominici sings much like a nasally Geddy Lee makes the band lean into this quality even more. James LaBrie hasn't come along yet and his range definitely outclasses Dominici's, but he still isn't bad at all.

Still, taken for what it is, this sound is definitely a GOOD thing in my book because I dig every era of Rush (Older Rush fans shouldn't slag off their 80s stuff because they don't seem to realize that keyboards have always played an important role in a fair amount of good progressive rock, but that's a story for another time... 'ahem' moving on..). Kevin Moore not only knows how to write outstanding songs and melodies, but his atmoshperic keyboard flourishes and solos are quite unique. And everyone knows about the excellent musicianship interplay between Moore, Petrucci, Portnoy, and Myung, so I won't go into that. WD&DU has its own unique "feel" generating from it and you can't really say that about a lot of music. Not only that, but the song compositions combining Rush and metal here were ahead of their time! Before their breakthrough I&W and Awake albums came along and spawned HUNDREDS of clone bands (not all good I'm afraid), there was hardly ANYONE doing this kind of stuff in the late 80s. Prog metal had Queensryche, Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, Voivod, and even some Justice-era Metallica to an extent, but I think Watchtower were the only other band that was making complex metal like this at the time.

'A Fortune In Lies' starts the debut off well, which is still a concert favorite to this day. By the end of the track, you have a clear picture on what DT is all about. 'Status Seeker' comes next and it's actually a personal favorite of mine, despite being underrated. Everyone who's seen DT live has heard the concert staple 'Ytse Jam' (that's "Majesty" backwards), which sports some stellar instrumental musicianship, and it never comes across as "wankery" which sadly the band is often accused of doing by non-fans. The best song on here has to be 'The Killing Hand', containing incredible buildup throughout its 8-minutes and is probably the closest thing to their songwriting mastery on the following few albums. There's some other overlooked material on here, such as the ever-changing 'Light Fuse And Get Away', the melodic 'Afterlife', and the dark and mystical sounding 'The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun'. 'Only A Matter Of Time' finishes on a strong note.

This album marks as a solid entry in the DT catalogue, yet a lot of their later material still surpasses it, so for new fans I would NOT start here. It certainly doesn't have the instant appeal that I&W, Awake, 6 Degrees Of Inner Turbulence(2002), or even the new album Octavarium(2005) contains. However, like a lot of DT's albums, its charm and genius opens up over time. Despite being remastered, there are NO bonus tracks on here! And I KNOW DT is fully loaded with unreleased material. In fact, they probably have twice as much of it as officially released stuff, so there's definitely a potential to make a massive b-side box set collection someday. Do make sure to check the debut out. No DT collection is complete without this one.

Other recommendations:
-Rush's "Grace Under Pressure" and Marillion's "Fugazi" (both are different prog rock, but contain a similar atmosphere to WD&DU).
-Any other DT album. ALL are worth hearing (despite what many ridiculously picky fans will tell you).
-Any of the last few Symphony X albums and Kamelot's new "The Black Halo" album.

(ALSO: If you really don't like Dominici's vocals, go to the ytsejamrecords site and get the bootleg "When Dream & Day Reunite", which is a 15 year celebration of DT's existence where they play the entire WD&DU album live with LaBrie at the helm and Rudess on keyboards.)
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HASH(0x9bad121c) étoiles sur 5 shows potential 4 juillet 1999
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There are two types of DT fans: those who listen to DT as heavy metal, and those who listen to them as adventurous, progressive music. I am the latter, so I was dissapointed that this album, while showing immense potential, is ultimately an above-average 80's metal CD. Charlie Dominici, the original vocalist, is not as bad as everyone says, and reminds me somewhat of Labrie, but with nowhere near the range + power. Kevin Moore on keys is a nice touch, though, and I prefer him to Derek Sherinian. (DT's new key man, Jordan Rudess, is sure to trash 'em both, however!) There are a few glimpses into odd meters (one song is in 9/4) and, of course, the classic Ytse Jam (DT's original name, Majesty, spelled backwards) is worth the entire price of the CD. If you've never heard DT, however, this is not the CD for you (unless you're a fan of 80's shred metal). Images + Words, or Awake would be a better jumping off point.
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HASH(0x9bad11b0) étoiles sur 5 Intriguing Debut Album 13 mars 2001
Par Alan Michael Sawatsky - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
This album is a must-buy for any avid Dream Theater fan that can appreciate complex music. One of the biggest complaints that I hear about this album concerns the vocalist, Charlie Dominici, and while I personally prefer James LaBrie as the lead, Charlie is still a fair vocalist and sings rather well in 'The Killing Hand' and 'Afterlife'. Also, the production admittedly is terrible, but if you can get past it the music itself is very much worth listening to. 'Fortune in Lies' is a fantastic opener with a great Petrucci guitar solo near the end. 'YTSE Jam' is my personal favorite; it is an extremely catchy instrumental that shows just how well in sync these guys can play at their best. 'The Killing Hand' is another classic song that is often underestimated. The rest of the album is good as well, but these three songs are the highlights. Hearing a young John Petrucci is very entertaining, and his riffs are a good indication of what is to come in future albums. Mike Portnoy's drums are okay but not that prevalent. John Myung's bass is great and is quite heavy during some songs. Kevin Moore, my favorite Dream Theater keyboardist, is incredible on this album, not for playing anything very difficult, but for rather using his keys to create a progressive feel to each song. Overall, a great album that I rate higher than Falling Into Infinity, and plus, it's always cool to look back and see how far the band has come. A very good buy for patient listeners who aren't too quick to criticize.
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HASH(0x9bad16e4) étoiles sur 5 A Taste of Things to Come 20 décembre 2005
Par Justin G. - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
While it has certainly been eclipsed by the albums that immediately followed it, Dream Theater's debut album When Dream and Day Unite is still an excellent album in its own right.

Like many other fans, I discovered Dream Theater with their breakthrough Images and Words album, and only picked up WDADU after I had all of their other studio albums. The vocals are always my top priority in a band, and I wasn't really excited about a Dream Theater album without James LaBrie. I wish I hadn't waited so long to get this disc. It is clear that Charlie Dominici is no LaBrie in terms of talent or emotion, but he still gave a solid performance, and more importantly the rest of the band was in great form on this album. It is full of great songs that I regard as some of their best (Ytse Jam and the Killing Hand are just two examples), and is probably a more consistent album than some of their later albums like Falling Into Infinity or Octavarium. It sounds even better now since it was recently remastered and re-released.

Front to back, this is a great album, especially considering when it came out. In terms of maturity and complexity, there were very few bands in 1989 that could stand up to Dream Theater. Images and Words may have set the progressive metal standard, but When Dream and Day Unite is still a great album, and should be a must-have for fans of the band and the genre.

NOTE: When Dream and Day Unite was reissued in 2002 and featured digitally remastered sound, which is a nice improvement over the original. Early versions came in a neat digipack (but without liner notes/lyrics), while later versions came in a standard jewel case (but with the full liner notes).
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