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4-Way Coordination: A Method Book for the Development of Complete Independence on the Drum Set (Anglais) Broché – 1 mars 1985

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c'est dans les vieux pots qu'on fait de la très bonne soupe. Ce document est un outil élémentaire pour travailler la coordination sur la batterie. A utiliser sans modération. Bien qu'ancien, il permet d'acqurir de la dextérité, en somme d'être plus à l'aise
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cette méthode date depuis longtemps, mais elle fait partie des techniques de base à maîtriser (tout comme les méthodes de Lawrence Stone); ce qui ne gâche rien, les exercices sont directement inspirants et utilisables sur scène pour de fills qui non seulement "sonnent", mais qui sont aussi visuels. Au boulot !
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Une excellente méthode de travail de la coordination! avec une difficulté très progressive. Du binaire et du ternaire. Un travail indispensable quelque soit votre style de jeu. Cette méthode ouvre de nouvelles perspectives rythmiques. Malgrès son age cette méthode est plus que d'actualité!
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Il faut savoir souffrir pour bien jouer.
Si elle est rigoureusement étudiée, cette méthode permet de gagner beaucoup en indépendance.
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HASH(0x95379c48) étoiles sur 5 Authors Marvin Dahlgren and Elliot Fine 12 août 2001
Par Mark Smith - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
Folks, this book is a gem for drumset development, one of the drum bibles. Exercises are thorough in exploring different permutations of hand and foot rhythmic sequences. Working this book will open up those synaptic nerve paths and program your muscle memory for every possible rhythm pattern. This is the perfect preparation for Gary Chester, Jim Chapin, etc. Even if you don't have drums, you can work this book on the drum pad while tap-dancing your feet on the floor, and you will have a rhythm vocabulary the very first time you sit down at the drums.
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HASH(0x9584145c) étoiles sur 5 Not really a review -- an explaination... 10 janvier 2007
Par D. Kolton - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
Most reviews touch on what this book is about, I just want to add what you get

when you get it. Endless permutations of rhythms that break the

standard mold of a "normal" drummer. Forget snare on 2&4 or straight eights

on a hi-hat. The books seeks to break you down from the "normal" rhythms

of the kit and to enable you to hit linearly -- any joint at any time in any

order at any point on the kit.

But...

You don't need a drumset to work it -- all you need are hands and feet to

get better. the "score" is set out in various patterns of LH,RH, LF, RF

(left hand, right hand, left foot, right foot). So if you can't get

enough of drumming, take this on the road with you for vacations, work

trips, whatever and work on breaking the mold. The floor, your knees

and any flat surface in front of you will do for practice.

This is one of the few drum books you can literally practice from

anywhere at anytime with nothing but the book and you.
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HASH(0x95a59ee8) étoiles sur 5 Get this one...(period) 19 juillet 2004
Par rpb - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This book has been around for at least 40 years, originally (c)1963. It is a fantastic book, with great exercises, mostly written in eighths and eighth-note tripletts. You won't be three lines into the exercises on page 4 (the beginning page of exercises, after a couple of pages in introduction and explanation), before you will find yourself doing stuff you've only dreamed of doing.
You can (should) do the exercises with a metronome, forcing you to count and driving you to keep up and not despair. If you have an auto-stepping metronome, you'll find yourself playing the exercises open-close, and increasing to speeds (from the very beginning) that will surprise you. This book, like G.L. Stone's "Stick Control" is one of the all-time great books, proven many times over.
And, wait until you see the pics of Dahlgren and Fine on the inside front cover...you'll never think of yourself as a geek, again. Get this one; you will not regret it--but only if you use it.
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HASH(0x95822d44) étoiles sur 5 Learn how to grow four brains 21 octobre 2008
Par Steven - Publié sur Amazon.com
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There are a few books that I believe belong in every drummers library. The absolute essential books are Syncopation For the Modern Drummer, Stick Control and 4-Way Coordination. Of course there are many other great books out there such as New Breed, Accents and Rebounds and many others but these are essential.

Why is 4-Way Coordination essential? Well, as far as fluidity on the drums this book has definitely helped me the most. By the time I worked through just the first page my skill level increased dramatically. It did take a few weeks to work through the first page, I didn't just blow through it so even though this book will elevate your skill level quickly, it still takes time to really work through each exercise.

This book has helped me in all aspects of drumming. This book is focused on limb independence but the exercises will help you gain speed, off-hand development, control and fluidity. This is because each limb is exercised, the exercises don't favor one side or the other, you exercise both sides evenly.

I have heard reviewers complain that the exercises in this book don't have any groove to them. This is true, but this should not have a negative impact on the quality of this book. The purpose of this book is to gain limb independence and it definitely does that. There are plenty of books out there that teach crafty grooves, but this is not one of them and it doesn't try to be. If you can work through this entire book then you will be a MUCH better drummer, limb independence is definitely one of the keys to great drumming. Don't go in to this book expecting to learn crafty drum beats, but go in expecting you will gain so much limb independence that you will be much more creative behind the kit, which leads to crafty drum beats.

This book is definitely challenging. I believe a lot of people might give up because the author says at the beginning of this book that any proficient drummer should be able to do these exercises at the target speed (and even much faster as he says). This may discourage some because the target speeds are fast! The first exercises are 120 BPM on the half note, so on the quarter note (What most metronomes default to) that's equivalent to 240 BPM. Believe me, it's quite a challenge coordinating all of your limbs at 240 BPM, even if they are just 8th notes. People may beat themselves up and think they aren't proficient drummers. With all due respect to the author, don't pay attention to this. Start each exercise off VERY slowly and work your way up.

I work through this book one exercise at a time. My goal is to get to around 3/4 speed before moving on to the next exercise. If you try and reach the target speed before moving on then you might be working on the first exercise for months! Of course this is just me, you might be able to blaze through these much faster then I. So set a goal for each exercise, 3/4 speed, 1/2 speed - whatever - then start moving forward. I revisit each exercise every day and try to increase my speed. Once I work through a page then instead of practicing that page one exercise at a time, I practice the entire page as if it were a single exercise. This has helped me a lot. I'm sure you will find your own way to work through this book, this is just what has worked for me.

Don't give up. This book is very challenging but I believe beginners and seasoned pros can both work through it. New guys just need to start VERY slow, even if it's just 40 BPM. The hard part is coordinating your limbs, once you successfully complete an exercise then it becomes much easier to bump up the metronome - the coordination is the hard part at first. Get this book, you will be amazed how much skill you gain by working through these exercises! This book is one of my daily essentials.
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HASH(0x953a4e7c) étoiles sur 5 Difficult but beneficial 18 juin 2006
Par Ele Rubenstein - Publié sur Amazon.com
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like the title states, this book really helps with coordination and independence. i am not even halfway through the exercises in this book (although i have been working very dilligently) and i am throwing patterns into my playing that i never would have before. the beginning half of this book really covers playing different hand patterns over foot ostinatos, where you filly in the gaps in the foot ostinatos with your hands. its very very difficult at first, it had me very frustrated when my limbs just wouldnt cooperate. but after a couple weeks, i seem to have "broken through a wall", and now i am sight reading many of the exercises cprrectly the first time. another cool thing about it is that dahlgren forms these exercises with clear patterns in mind (i.e, keeping the ostinatos the same but moving them around in the measure and having you reverse your hand patterns over the same ostinatos) so that you could easily come up with similar exercises yourself. i highly reccomend it.
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