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Beethoven: Symphony No.6 "Pastorale"; Choral Fantasy; Calm Sea and Prosperous Voyage

Beethoven: Symphony No.6 "Pastorale"; Choral Fantasy; Calm Sea and Prosperous Voyage

1 janvier 1987
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  • Conductors: Claudio Abbado
  • Date de sortie d'origine : 1 janvier 1987
  • Date de sortie: 15 février 2014
  • Label: Universal Music Division Decca Records France
  • Copyright: ℗© 1987 Deutsche Grammophon GmbH, Berlin
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  • ASIN: B0025GJKC6
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très bel enrgistrement ,pour ne pas dire historique. Sublime Abbado , magnifique Pollini. Enregistrement de premier choix , indispensable dans une discothèque classique.
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Par cacoton le 3 février 2016
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Quelle lenteur ! Beethoven a indiqué des tempos bien plus vifs (voir Haitink ou Karjan qui ,eux s'y conforment.).J'ai la plus grande admiration pour Abbado mais là,il a mal compris Beethoven.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Bohm/VPO will always be unmatchable for me, but this ... 12 février 2016
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Bohm/VPO will always be unmatchable for me, but this is worth listening to. Tempos tend to be on the slow side, but not to the point of being soporific.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 refined performance 25 février 2014
Par musicnerd - Publié sur Amazon.com
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The slower tempos are good and the playing is incredibly refined. It may not be the most exciting performance of the Pastorale, but it is quite beautiful.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 This is a standard by now, right? 20 octobre 2008
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This is not only a very fine rendition of the Sixth; the choral pieces are the real stunners. Don't forget that the Ninth wasn't Beethoven's only foray into choral music! If you have any interest in Beethoven, get this recording, you will definitely enjoy it forever.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 David Hurwitz - wrong again 9 décembre 2005
Par Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Does this guy ever offer any real insight? It seems like he is a pretty closed-minded evaluator of music. He consistently lauds Bernstein's good-but-not-great Vienna cycle, and yet he bashes Karajan's interpretations as well as Abbado's. First of all, Karajan had made numerous well-regarded performances of Beethoven, and after scanning Mr. Hurwitz' reviews, I've noticed he is just plain biased against him. Likewise, Abbado's set from the 1980's is the closest in sound and performance to that of the old guard and as a result quite rewarding; but because Hurwitz doesn't like it, he dismisses it completely. This is a fine disc, with a beautifully conceived Sixth and an outstanding rendition of the Choral Fantasy, played masterfully by Maurizio Pollini (at least Hurwitz got that right). In the Fantasy, Pollini plays with a consummate understanding of the work's architecture, and his sheer coordination, dexterity and technical superiority is apparent throughout. Abbado's accompaniment is very fine and in tune with his soloist, and the vocal soloists are excellent in their own right. This is an incredibly difficult work to execute effectively, in some ways worse than the finale of the Ninth as a piano must also be considered; and yet, in spite of these stumbling blocks, everything just "works". As for the Pastorale, Abbado takes things along slowly, but it's properly paced for such a soothing, unconflicted work as this. Proceedings unfold naturally and with great dignity as the music transitions from scene to scene. The storm, however, is fierce and visceral, as it should be. It's all wonderfully executed by the VPO, whose gorgeous string tones start the proceedings off in grand form during the strident introductory statement and are apparent throughout. This performance is really wonderful and like any excellent performance, it gets better with repeat listening. Abbado's Beethoven cycle with the VPO harkens back to the big-boned, dependable, middle of the road Beethoven of days gone by. As a result it may not be as initially eye-catching as some of the flashier, more famous readings, but afficionados know the potential for how wonderful these interpretations can be. A strong recommendation to say the least. As an alternative for the Sixth: I also enjoyed Bohm/VPO and the neglected and out-of-print Schmidt-Isserstedt/LSO; but with those discs, you don't get the Choral Fantasy, and you would be hard-pressed to find a better one elsewhere. Recommended if you like old-school Beethoven or Abbado's other entries from this cycle, which differ greatly with those from his 1999 cycle.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Abbado is still reserved, but this Beethoven disc borders on great 14 février 2012
Par Andrew R. Barnard - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This is the second disc I've heard from Abbado's Beethoven cycle with Vienna. That disc, featuring the 7th and 8th symphonies, struck me as containing little of interest. It was scholarly and there was nothing "wrong" with it, but there was nothing to distinguish it. So it was with skepticism that I approached this disc, which contains the "Pastoral" Symphony as well as the Choral Fantasia with Maurizio Pollini.

But my hopes were higher in this case because Abbado's gifts as a conductor enable him to create delightful pastoral qualities and it's rare that another conductor rivals his ability to throb with spontaneity and joy. Coming to the "Pastoral", I had hopes that he would be more at home in a symphony where his gifts are not only welcome but nearly indispensable. The start of the opening movement lets us know that Abbado is going to take his time. His tempo is rather slow (it takes him over 13 minutes) and Abbado seems reserved, certainly not out to say anything radical. I swallowed my disappointment and found that there was much to admire all the same. His slow tempi, while not something that I would have chosen, shows some individuality and he voices the music perfectly and I sense tenderness. Still, it would be hard to guess that the music was supposed to depict a farmer joyfully setting about his work at the start of the day; the movement was somber but hardly joyful. The 2nd movement is done much the same way and while it's beautiful, one could easily fall asleep. Abbado seemed to become a bit livelier in the 3rd movement, but it is almost reticent. Beautiful, to be sure, but it sounds more like a ball for the royalty than a dance of rustic peasants. As with the previous movements, I find the main enjoyment to be the sound of the wonderful Vienna Phil. The 4th movement starts out timidly but Abbado seems to gain confidence as time goes on. It was in the 5th movement that I felt Abbado was most at home. The gorgeous sounds he pulls from Vienna perfectly captures the spirits of the thankful countrymen. All in all this is a fine performance but throughout I get the impression that Abbado simply isn't in his element. He seems afraid to display the spontaneity that makes him a great conductor, as if though Beethoven is too great for him to display his own personality.

Pollini is the main show in the Choral Fantasia. He plays with sincerity and direction, although he's not out to set the world on fire. But refinement seems to work in this piece, especially when the environment is so thoroughly Austrian. With what's easily the world's greatest Beethoven orchestra and the Vienna State Opera Chorus it's instantly apparent that everyone is completely at home. It sounds like Beethoven just died yesterday, so to speak. I'm not very familiar with the work, so I can't make any strong judgments, but this is an enjoyable performance. It would seem to me, though, that there's much more room for drama.

The performance of "A Calm Sea and Prosperous Voyage" that opened the disc was performed splendidly, with enthusiasm from Abbado that was irresistible. It's strange that Abbado would find his place in the least familiar work on the disc (and, unfortunately, the shortest), but it does much to confirm my suspicion that Abbado was never a natural Beethovenian.

In closing this is a fine disc. I feel that Abbado is bordering on great as he actually shows some insight and love. The reviewers who find this to be ideal Beethoven certainly have some reasons for their claims. I just don't think music making this buttoned up should be viewed as revolutionary.
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