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  • CD (6 juin 2011)
  • Nombre de disques: 1
  • Format : Compilation
  • Label: Rhino
  • ASIN : B004Z1Z9GK
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HASH(0x9d058ae0) étoiles sur 5 How many more JD/NO compliations do we need??? 15 juin 2011
Par H. Jin - Publié sur
Format: CD
Joy Division and New Order are two of my all time favourite bands, but really.....the number of compilations both bands have released in recent times is becoming ridiculous. They got it right with 'Substance', but after that the results have mixed to say the least. 'Heart And Soul' and maybe 'Singles' are worthy, but most of the releases have been incomplete, misleading, and basically useless collections featuring the same old songs over and over.

Now we have yet another release, 'Total', which features as a sort-of-Greatest-Hits collection for both bands on the one CD. I suppose an album like this was inevitable, but all it means is that we have misleading and incomplete introduction to TWO bands instead of one. Both bands had so many great tracks that it just is not possible to do justice to either on a single CD.

Joy Division is dispensed with in a mere 5 tracks, which seem to have been chosen entirely on which are the most "New Order like", which I guess is the only reason why 'Isolation' is here. Yes, the other four tracks deserve to be here, but they represent only one side of the band. There's nothing from their punk roots, no arty challenging tracks, nothing to indicate they could be dark, heavy, and incredibly powerful. Including only these five songs gives the impression that Joy Division were a sort of New-Order-with-deep-vocals, a completely unfair and misleading introduction for casual fans, and an outrage for more serious fans.

I will say this, though, they've probably done the best that they can with the New Order bit. If someone forced you to summarise New Order's long and diverse career in only 13 tracks (12 really, discounting the inevtiable New Song) this is about the best you could come up with. A host of important tracks are missing, but the really essential stuff is here, there's something from every part of the band's career, and nearly every studio album is featured. As something designed solely for the very casual fan (the sort of person who has heard 'Blue Monday' and 'Bizzare Love Triagle' but didn't know it was the same band), this might be passable.

For more serious fans (who would have every song here about five times over) the lure is One New Song, 'Hellbent', apparently a WTSC holdover. It's not a terrible song, but does it deserve to stand next to 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' or 'Blue Monday' (or even 'Regret')? And does it deserve to edge out a whole bunch of JD/NO classics that failed to make the cut? And does it make it worth forking out for 17 other songs you already have? I think we all know the answer to that.

I was given this as a gift from someone "who knows you like both these bands" so at least I didn't have to pay for it. But really, it contains almost nothing you haven't heard before, is incomplete as an introduction to new fans, and a bit of an insult to dedicated fans. It does nothing to advance either band's legacy, and sadly it looks more like an attempt to milk every last drop from the cash cow than any sort of serious artistic statement.

For a proper introduction to these two legendary and groundbreaking bands, go buy both versions of 'Substance', then the studio albums. Leave this one on the can always download 'Hellbent' if you're that keen on hearing it......
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HASH(0x9d093dc8) étoiles sur 5 Total brings very little joy.. 25 février 2012
Par TheOpolis - Publié sur
Format: CD Achat vérifié
How many compilations does it take for a record company to cash out on another notorious Joy Division/New Order compilation as they're laughing their way to the bank? Apparently, not enough! All I can write is that this album is a mere introduction for either the younger generation might appreciate or anyone who has just heard from this amazing band for the first time. I don't think they added enough Joy Division tracks here but there are definitley some good tracks here but just nothing to really get excited about. I did notice that some of the Joy Division tracks have a more "raw" cut to them but nevertheless, I like either version. I especially prefer the "Bizarre Love Triangle" edit, compared to the original version found on the "Brotherhood" album. I give this album 3 stars for introducing their latest track; "Hellbent". I'm not sure why a few critics have given this song the 'thumbs down'? I know you can't compare it with some of New Order's all-time classics; such as True Faith or even Perfect Kiss but these guys have come a long way, since their 80's heyday. Their last two albums; "Get Ready" & "Waiting For The Siren's Call" are not only exceptional albums but keep the band in sync with the times as their music continues to stay timeless and not dated. I'm looking forward to their "Lost Sirens" release due out, soon!
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HASH(0x9d09df84) étoiles sur 5 Excellent Remastered sound, and includes 7" edit versions not released on CD before 29 septembre 2013
Par Memoryboy - Publié sur
Format: CD
Listen, this release is awesome, there are versions on here that have never been released on CD before.

"In a bid to offer existing fans something new compared to previously existing compilations the album included four never-before on CD versions of the bands tracks, including the original 7″ version of "True Faith" and Shep Pettibone's 7″ remix of "Bizarre Love Triangle". It also includes the shorter 4:24 edit of "The Perfect Kiss". All tracks were mastered from original source tapes by Frank Arkwright."

The sound quality is crisp, clean, nice bass, basically it is not brick walled and all the details are separate as it should be. It seems these days digital remastering is getting better and better in sound quality. People are finally learning how to do it right. Yay! All the Joy Division tracks sound great. And you can tell this is a new digital remaster. Better than even the most decent previous efforts on New Order and Joy Division re-releases and best of's.

Anyone ever wish that the Shep Pettibone 12" Remix of 'Bizarre Love Triangle' were also mixed in to a shorter 7" edit? Because that remix is damn long. Well, there actually was a 7" remix edit released back then. And it's here on CD for the first time. And it's not found on any other past New Order best of compilations. I always prefered Shep Pettibone's extended Remix of 'Bizarre Love Triangle' over the shorter original album version. I had no idea there was an edit of the Shep Pettibone 12" remix. I am so excited about this. It is far superior if you ask me, since the original version is missing some very important parts.

And how about 'True Faith'? Anyone ever feel that all the versions of that song were too long? I had always wished for a shorter edited version. Well it exists! It's here for the first time on CD. The 'True Faith' 7" Edit is basically a single version that was released back in the 80's, but it has never been released on CD ever, until now.

'The Perfect Kiss' is basically the single or album version, but this version included on here is an even shorter edit. I also had no idea this was ever released back in the day. AWESOME! It flows much better as a single version.

The remastering on this collection is the absolute best you will find anywhere up until now regarding New Order and Joy Division. The detail is meticulous, it's perfection. 'Blue Monday' finally get's the excellent remastering it always deserved. The remastering alone is worth the money, but the rare 7" versions are also a must have for collector's (most notably 'True Faith' 7" Edit and also 'Bizarre Love Triangle' Shep Pettibone 7" Remix Edit.)

I do not think 'Thieves Like Us' 7" edit version has been released on CD before, or at least on many past best of compilations. On here it is remastered so wonderfully. I think this 7" edit is only included on that dreadful sounding "Singles" collection from back in 2005. So the 'Thieves Like Us' single is also important.

Another worthy note is the 7" edit of 'Fine Time', which again I think was only included on the horribly remastered "Singles" CD from back in 2005. This new remaster sounds better than anything released up to this point by the band.

I think the most exciting track on here is the Remix Edit of "Bizarre Love Triangle", so awesome they released this. I also find the version of 'True Faith' on here to be exciting, because I have always felt certain New Order singles were way too long in length time. I prefer many of these 7" edits over the original album version's. Now if only there were a 7" edit of 'Blue Monday' that would be awesome. But of course I enjoy the original version of 'Blue Monday' just fine. It sounds great here. This release is worth it for the excellent digital remaster itself. This is a must have.

What some of you negative reviewers are missing is that the sound quality on this release is different than past releases. I have to say, regarding the new track.... I like the last track. The unreleased 'Hellbent'. It sounds like a single from their last album. Really very quite good.
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HASH(0x9d09d7ec) étoiles sur 5 Wanted to give it more stars but... 25 mai 2013
Par elektrolad - Publié sur
Format: CD Achat vérifié
It's really loudly mastered AND they left off the first beat of 'Blue Monday'. Could also use a few more JD tracks.
HASH(0x9d0a1174) étoiles sur 5 OK, but pointless 30 août 2011
Par dk - Publié sur
Format: CD
The tracks are good - a different take on their classic songs. If you like the music, just buy Substance, Both of them - New Order and Joy Division. Those include the richer original version and a broader collection their seminal songs.
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