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  • Chef d'orchestre: Georg Tintner
  • Compositeur: Anton Bruckner
  • CD (15 avril 1997)
  • Nombre de disques: 1
  • Label: Naxos
  • ASIN : B00000148X
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Symphonie n° 5, WAB 105 / Royal Scottish National Orchestra, dir. Georg Tintner

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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Huge, Epic and Magnificent Bruckner from Tintner 15 mai 2014
Par NUC MED TECH - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
05-15-2014 The Bruckner 5th here gets perhaps the best treatment of any of the 9 Symphonies in this Tintner/Naxos cycle, as the end result is a sweeping, grand and heroic 5th unlike nearly any I currently own or have heard. I was repeatedly stunned with one jaw-dropping moment after another in this single CD recording made in April of 1996. The tempi sometimes begin a little too fast only to be pulled back into that stately and dignified pacing that this Symphony thrives on and needs almost as much as a great horn section for success. I could let this review go as is, a five star and very high recommendation but there are a few items that bare commentary, so here goes.
As I received this recording yesterday, this is my first real close listening to it yet, and with my excellent Bose headphones, there is nothing lost in the detail department. Still, through my speakers I expect the d=same thing, except with some extra volume added, if needed. I own several other 5ths, notably within some full cycle box sets, such a Karajan, Solti and Jochum, on DGG, London, and EMI respectively. All are just fine with Solti's surprisingly beautiful in his Adagio movement, from this 5th Symphony. I have Wand from both Cologne and Hamburg, although I have yet to review either, and the Cologne set is brand new to me, so reviews are pending as of now. I have a Sinopoli/Dresden reading and another Jochum, this one live in St. Florian's with the Concertgebouw Orchestra, and , I think I also have a Haitink/RCO on Philips as well. I mention all of these because I suspect in a face-to-face payoff, this Tintner 5th would stand up nicely in the face of the competition from better conductors and Orchestras, and some of these , would result in Tintner victorious in the competition.
The opening 20:17 movement is a true Allegro, swift and moving with deliberate speed, but, as you would expect, not rushed or compacted. It is, rather, of a grand pacing and very dignified in it's handling of ideas, and I was deeply moved by it's splendor and majesty. This is wonderfully rich and opulent music, embellished by much detail work by the composer and that detail being brought out by the Maestro and his Orchestra. The Royal Scottish National Orchestra is the group featured on some of the other disks in this big cycle, and they do a terrific and exciting job both here and in other recordings. In fact, in going-out-on-a-limb, I would rank this orchestra up there with the Vienna and Berlin Philharmonics as well as the Dresdner's of Sinopoli and Jochum, but just for this particular Symphony. Still, that is quite a compliment I pay, but I stand by my comments and praise. Take note of the gorgeous string dominated passage from 10:07 to about 10:42, or so, to, and get a feel for the conductor's touch that he will carry through to the very end, some 76 + minutes down the road. If I may digress for a moment or two, this Symphony is unique in the Bruckner canon for a number of reasons, the first being that it is his first really large scale work, running 15 to 20mminute longer than it's predecessors and the individual movements are on such a grand scale that the entire work takes on a stupendously epically and noble air about it, that I found irresistible and awesomely fulfilling. If I were a conductor, THIS is how I might do this work, down to the smallest detail, but, of course, that would make me a mere "copy-cat," and no one wants that, least of all the listeners and the Orchestra. The Adagio of 16:23 seems longer, and that's fine by me, as these slow movements are the centerpieces of the typical Bruckner Symphony. This one is his first really spiritual Adagio and will lead us right into those great arcing slow movements in his great trio of Symphonic Adagios in the 7th, 8th and 9th Symphonies.
The Adagio movement runs, as I said, for 16:23 and is richly lush and often very poignant, even though the tempo appears too fast, at least for me, but it also is oddly relaxed and as tender as nearly any other Bruckner Adagio. Listen to the exquisite passage from about the 12:15 point of near the 15:28 mark and try to convince yourself that this is music as composed "by a drunkard," or music that is "vulgar, crude and boring." These words are from the acerbic pen of Edward Hanslick, the noted, popular and highly influential critic in the Vienna press. It was he that haunted Bruckner consistently throughout the composer's life and career. Had it been any other man, instead of Anton Bruckner, I think that man would of given up to the pressure and ceased writing, but Bruckner was not "any other man" but the genius he was, determined and steadfast in his commitment to composer=r the best he could.
The 3rd movement Scherzo is also Bruckner's longest and most ambitious to date, as it runs for a full14:11and is marked as Molto vivace. This is yet another whirling, swirling, pounding and highly rhythmic work with a really good trio at the *** to **** points, then returning us to the Scherzo proper. The trio is a rather mild affair, mostly for the Strings with some comments by the winds and in the middle of it, there is a bold interjection from the full brss choir, recalling some of that heroic sound we heard in the 1st movement then resuming the landler dancing o the rio. This is an appealing trio section but not a good as the wonderfully delightful trio work in either the 3rd or 4th Symphonies.
As for some of the history of this work, the 5th Symphony was composer between mid February of 1875 and completed on January 4, 1878. The composer heard a twin-piano version in Vienna of 1887, the year in which he had completed his original version of the c-minor 8th Symphony and the first orchestral performance of the 5th, didn't come to the fore until it was presented in 1894,under Franz Schalk in Graz, Austria. So the composer never heard the results of his labors on this epic creation.
The Finale can be said to have been the end result of the entire Symphony, with the first three movements acting together as a sort of very long preparatory work and deliberately written in such a manner as I convey this musical ideal. This finale, running for a moderate 25:55 is in the form of a gigantic fugue with the statin point a bit trick to isolate. Tintner's pacing here is in keeping with the composer's wishes, as it is marked Adagio--Allegro moderato", but could easily be designated as "Adagio-- allegro fugato" since this is really a big, rambling boisterous fugue. Tintne's control of the tension, fundamentally the retention and the purging of energy is masterful, and unlike anything he had done previously in this mammoth cycle. I could not isolate the actual beginning of this delightful and splendid fugue but that doesn't really matter anyhow. The point is that Bruckner wrote a long and sustained piece in the form of a fugue and it crowns this wonderful Symphony is an unusual way, At the 19:04 mark, however, the music takes on a quite magnificent posture in it's own right. I say, own-em-both for a great listening experience decidedly big leap forward towards the coda, still some 5:30 away in the future pages. This is a section filled with big, and exciting writing, clearly looking towards a blazing conclusion. The coda itself opens up the full throat of the Royal Scotts with glorious and majestic sound. Along the way, and particularly in these closing pages, the timpani and the brass roar wit all their might, pushing everything else aside and leading the rest of the orchestra, and us, to the blazing final bars. As I see it, the only real competition is from the 1966 reading by Klemperer and the Philharmonic on EMI, although the Sonics on that recording are weak and muffled, but the interpretation is wonderful and well worth the small amount of money to obtain them both. An absolutely terrific recording of the Bruckner 5th and one you'll get hours of listening enjoyment from. My highest recommendation for this 5 star release, as I remain yours truly, with best wishes and a heat God bless you, all and happy listening! Tony.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Good starter 5th. 23 février 2002
Par Ward Hilgers - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
Jochum- DG, Klemperer- EMI, Skrow- A.N., Jochum- Phillips, Schuricht-DG are all great and all so different. I will keep them all! But this recording is only a clean and clear starter 5th. I really wish the Jochum/ Tahra 5th would be released by Harmonia Mundi so we who haven't heard it can experience it. Pressure them to get it out! I used to view this disc as much more enjoyable but I've been listening to the 5th alot and there are superior perfomances.
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2.0 étoiles sur 5 Very Disappointed 25 avril 2002
Par George John - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
I had high hopes for this recording which seems to have been well received by others. Unfortunately, I was very disappointed by what I heard. Another posted has already expressed my thoughts. I quote:
"The entire performance left me bored. I could hardly keep my patience, and almost skipped ahead repatedly. Although I blamed Bruckner, I later found that it was merely a poor interpretation. "
In addition to problems with the interpretation, the orchestra sounded like they had not rehearsed adequately. The recorded sound was dull with poor balance and little hall ambience.
I strongly recommend the Horenstein/BBC version instead.
George
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Very good overall. 1 juin 2001
Par David N. Loesch - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
Tintner gives a well paced, well balanced account of the great score. The sound quality is a little bright. Celebidache's recording is even slower than Tintner to the point that the 2nd movement's opening theme is almost unrecognizable and the scherzo borders on plodding, however, Celebidache brings off the amazing finale more convincingly than anyone else I have heard. I also recommend the Furtwangler recording for a very different (read really fast,) but incredibly exciting approach. Eugen Jochum and Daniel Barenboim supply less eccentric but overall excellent interpretations.
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2.0 étoiles sur 5 Solid, But Lacks Drama and Bite 30 avril 2002
Par E. Clinton - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
This effort at the Bruckner 5th was solid, but lacks passion and drama. Usually, the tension and suspense should build throughout a good Bruckner symphony until the finale. Here, the movements seem like separate pieces put together. It struck me as a collection of symphonic poems rather than a symphony. This was a disappointment to me.
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