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HASH(0x96356b04) étoiles sur 5 Disappointing 2 juillet 2014
Par George Hariton - Publié sur
Format: Relié
Stiglitz and Greenwald (SG) start off by arguing that learning, learning how to learn, and innovation are the key to increased productivity and economic growth. But, they point out, learning has strong spillover effects, i.e. the costs fall on the person or firm doing the learning, but the benefits accrue widely, in large part to others. Even if there are no spillovers to others, there likely will be spillovers over time -- learning today will enable even more learning tomorrow. As a result of this mismatch, governments should intervene to encourage learning (correcting a market failure).

So far this is uncontroversial. It is also not very new. Governments already provide free primary and secondary education in most countries, as well as aid to university education, grants and tax credits to companies for research, demonstration projects (DARPA for the Internet), and so on.

But SG argue that most learning happens on-the-job, within firms. (The disti9cntion between individual learning and innovation via R & D is blurred, and the authors switch between the two without warning, even though they are very different.) Furthermore, according to SG, the rate of learning and the size of the spillovers vary by sector of the economy. As well, learning in firms depends on size of firms, increasing as output increases. Accordingly, government intervention should be targeted. to sectors with lots of learning and spillovers. As well, governments should discourage innovation that would have negative effects -- encourage use of "dirty" energy, or reduce demand for labor (automation) or otherwise negative (SG really hate financial innovation).

This of course begs the question: how to pick the "good" sectors" and the "bad" sectors. SG assume that industrial production is the good sector that should be encouraged. But they only consider industrial production (which seems to be synonymous with manufacturing) and "crafts", and basically wave their hands to argue that manufacturing is better than the other two at encouraging learning. Interestingly, in a comment, Kenneth Arrow states that "the rate of growth of productivity in the U.S. has been comparable quite comparable to that of non-agricultural sectors". (page 507 of the book). More importantly, SG never mention the services sector -- it is not even listed in the index.

All of this illust6rates how difficult it would be for government to implement SG's new industrial policy. True, government would no longer have to pick sectors who create the most jobs, or exports, But now it would have to pick sectors with the highest learning rates, and the largest spillovers to other sectors -- a much harder task.

But assume that SG have it right, and that manufacturing is the sector to be encouraged. How to do this? The best way would be through government subsidies. But that, in turn, would require very high taxes to fund the subsidies. As a second best substitute, SG recommend protectionism. Keep foreign products out, or at least reduce their quantities, and let the domestic manufacturing sector grow, so that it can learn faster, and share with the other domestic sectors. But alas tariffs and quotas are no longer possible, due to the evils of free trade agreements and the WTO (SG seem to dislike free trade quite intensely). The next best instrument is an artificially low foreign exchange rate. And that is what SG recommend, in two different parts of their book.

But won't other countries retaliate if one country tries to grow its exports by manipulating its FX rate? SG are silent on this. More generally, if every country tries to export its way to growth, there will be an incompatibility in objectives that may lead to trade wars. Again, silence. Finally, while government subsidies to manufacturing are funded through income tax, protectionism is funded by higher prices to consumers -- a form of consumption tax, but invisible, so politically more acceptable. However, protectionism is likely to place a greater burden on the poor than an income tax would. So SG are recommending regressive policy here.

SG don't like free trade in goods (they never mention services). They also don't like free movement of capital. According to them, that contributes to instability in financial markets, and economic downturns, which, in turn, reduce learning. Indeed, SG claim, recessions kill firms, and those firms' learning dies with them. So capital controls can be desirable, so as to maximize learning.

If you want to constrain free flows of products and of capital, can constraints on the mobility of labor be far behind? And indeed, at page 413 SG express their unease with free flow of labor (e.g. a "brain drain"), although they stop short of recommending strict exit controls.

On the other hand, SG at several places take pains to emphasize that they are against autarky -- a nation completely cutting itself off from others.

This raises a question: why postulate that more output within a country increases learning, and hence should be expanded, while discounting increased output abroad? Why is the country the optimum size for learning? (especially since the size of countries varies so widely) Why not protectionism between regions of the same country, since learning is chiefly local? While SG argue that national borders are barriers to transfer of knowledge, they essentially wave their hands again.

Nevertheless, SG present the strongest modern argument for industrial policy, and for widespread government intervention, that I have seen. Whether it is strong enough to be convincing is another matter..
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HASH(0x96356bf4) étoiles sur 5 Glass Half Full -- Cannot Be Ignored But Also Off the Rails 4 septembre 2014
Par Robert David STEELE Vivas - Publié sur
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Among all economists in the English language, I hold Joseph Stiglitz to be among the most enlightened and virtuous. When I formed a "dream" coalition cabinet in 2012, he was on it. His co-author is of less interest to me -- finance geeks have been demonstrably impotent these past fifty years -- and particularly those who fall prey to mathematical formulas lacking in social integrity -- and I believe with book would have been stronger had Stiglitz either gone it alone, or collaborated with an educator such as Derek Bok. The book is also rooted in old lectures, starting in 2008, and it is focused on Kenneth Arrow's work, which is best appreciated on its own merits. See, for example:

Moral Hazard in Health Insurance (Kenneth J. Arrow Lecture Series)
The Limits of Organization (Fels Lectures on Public Policy Analysis)
General Competitive Analysis, Volume 12 (Advanced Textbooks in Economics)

The weakest point of this book, which does indeed have much to offer for anyone who cares about the future of academia, commerce, governance, and society, is that is "assumes" integrity on the part of the government, and that industrial policies are somehow going to corrupt deep ethical and intellectual failings across all major forms of organization (academia, civil society, commerce, government, law enforcement, media, military, and non-governmental/non-profit). This is the same mistake made by Limits to Growth: The 30-Year Update and the Club of Rome. The *losing* alternative to the Limits to Growth assumption that top-down government would deal responsibly with climate change and other high level threats focused instead on education from the bottom up -- the central point of Will Durant's 1919 doctoral thesis, now available as Philosophy and the Social Problem: The Annotated Edition.

I have published an online slide show of my Amazon reviews in this area, easily found by searching for the title, < Robert Steele: Online Review Books on Education, Intelligence, Research >, and for me the bottom line is clear: holistic education and a grasp of true cost economics such as championed by Herman Daly in Ecological Economics, Second Edition: Principles and Applications are the foundation for a learning society, *not* economists and financial mathematicians (the worst possible juxtaposition).

The book's attention to the perversion of intellectual property laws and the need for more attention to open source technologies is constructive but insufficient. The avant guarde now seems to understand that open source is a meme and a mind-set and that only an "all in" approach embracing ALL of the opens will do. I am off to London soon to help create an Open Source Everything Innovation Hub at a great university, precisely because I could not get MIT, George Washington University, or the University of Maryland, among others, to break with corrupt legacy constructs and think truly big thoughts. Richard Stallman, Linux Torvalds, and Lawrence Lessig, among others, remain heroes of mine, and I commend their varied works to readers of this review.

On a most positive note, while this book glosses over the great crimes of both government (e.g. 935 Lies: The Future of Truth and the Decline of America's Moral Integrity) and banking (e.g. Griftopia: A Story of Bankers, Politicians, and the Most Audacious Power Grab in American History), it is a helpful venture by an economist I regard very highly, into the foreign territory of integral consciousness and consilience. Mathematical formulas are an annoying waste of time at this level of thinking, and I hope that Stiglitz will in the future connect to the humanities -- I would recommend starting with E. O. Wilson's Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge and Steve MacIntosh's Integral Consciousness and the Future of Evolution.

Best wishes to all,
Robert David STEELE Vivas
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HASH(0x961a6264) étoiles sur 5 my or anyone's world a better place to live 16 août 2015
Par Curt Rhodes - Publié sur
Format: Format Kindle Achat vérifié
Pure, distilled Stiglitz. To read it is to apprehend a world view of human economics (which he espouses) and also a world view that you, I or anyone could espouse to make your, my or anyone's world a better place to live, for all of us and for generations to come. Slow reading sometimes. I found myself having to "digest" rather than "read." Complex ideas in complicated sentences. Pure, distilled Stiglitz, not to be diluted but rather to be mulled over.
HASH(0x961a624c) étoiles sur 5 great book 23 janvier 2016
Par Bernd Kotz - Publié sur
Format: Relié
The book is a good view to the main aspects of modern economics different from the textbook. It was constructed as a lecturer in honor of Kenneth Arrow. The main thing in reality is the neglect of education in the political process. Learning by doing is practiced by most of the companies today. The authors say that the market is inefficient. Learning by doing is characterized by that. Growth will be in a steady state model is not implemented to endogenous development. The new growth theory has some aspect of that, what is described in the book. Like innovation in the global economy. The competition model is under consideration by learning and the market structure explained in a closed economy. The second part is about the industry economics and trade policy. How an infant economy can protect itself from the rest of the world to support learning by doing and develop innovations. They sahre the toughts about bad influences from foreign influences. the dynamic comparative advantage shows more to international trade than the classical arguments. The book closes with a view to patents and intellectual property rights. It ends with an behavioural model.
The reader must know the basics in economics especially growth theory, competition and price theory. You can skip the theory for a better anderstanding. it is more for the advanced economics. It is his best book so far.
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HASH(0x961a6714) étoiles sur 5 I found it unnecessarily difficult. I can recommend it only to readers ... 2 septembre 2014
Par Antal Halmos - Publié sur
Format: Format Kindle Achat vérifié
Since a few years – having read some of his books - I respect Joseph E. Stiglitz. His new book, „Creating a Learning Society”,written Jointly with Bruce C. Greenwald now surprised me a little: it’s full of mathematical proofs. I found it unnecessarily difficult. I can recommend it only to readers who have adequate knowledge of mathematics.
The book of course is still remarkable, since provides scientific treaty of fundamental questions of the issue. I draw the attention of the authors to the fact, that a lot is preached about the knowledge-based society in the former socialist - now neocapitalist - countries of Europe, though in fact a number of them, including Hungary are primarily engaged in diametrically opposite practices. They should include in the next edition of the book a separate chapter devoted to the „learning processes” in those countries.
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