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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Mediocre Presentation of 4 Revelation Views 6 janvier 2002
Par David R. Bess - Publié sur
Format: Broché
This book is actually a combination of four short booklets, each written by a different author. My rating is for the book as a whole, though my rating for each individual writer would differ. As an editor, Pate makes a commendable effort to be fair and open-minded with the views differing from his own position. If Pate had requested each author to respond to the criticism voiced by the others, this book would have been much more helpful.
The first writer is Kenneth Gentry, representing the Preterist view. His work is the best presented of the four positions, worthy of five stars. If anyone wants an very good explanation of the Preterist view in a nutshell, Gentry offers it here.
The second writer is Sam Hamstra, representing the Idealist view. He is a bit wordy in his presentation, and comes across as rather dull. I give him three stars.
The third writer is Marvin Pate, representing the Progressive Dispensationalist view. Ironically, his argument is the weakest and most difficult to understand of the four. He appears to be seeking an interpretation that will have something for everyone, but sacrifices substance and clarity in the process. What seems to be a combination of a preterist/futurist position is not appealing in the least. I give him two stars.
The fourth writer is Robert Thomas, representing the Classic Dispensationalist view. Thomas voices the usual mantra for this camp, claiming that his dispensational view is the only position that interprets Revelation literally. He then proceeds to explain the "actual meaning" of the various "symbols" described by the Apostle John! Still, he does a commendable job of presenting a very brief summary of this very complicated viewpoint. I give him four stars.
In summary, this book is more suitable for the college classroom than for the church congregation. I would recommend it to a fellow pastor or theologian, but not to a layman. Overall, it serves to refresh the memory of a person who has already determined his viewpoint, rather than to persuade the mind of a person who is still undecided.
31 internautes sur 32 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
4.0 étoiles sur 5 Helpful book for learning about Revelation 12 juillet 2004
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Format: Broché
The book of Revelation is one of the most difficult books in the Bible. This fact is evidenced in there being so many approaches to Revelation. This work by Pate introduces and summarizes four of those approaches: preterism (the best argued in the book), dispensationalism (the most popular view in American fundamentalism), progressive dispensationalism (a mix of all the other views while trying to maintain some semblance of dispensationalism), and idealism (the most confusing and least attractive view).
Revelation is also one of the most facinating to Christians. The chapter on preterism was the most interesting to me, and the most convincing. The author basically gives a short commentary on Revelation, which provides a nice overview while presenting the preterist outlook. The preterist sees Revelation as pointing to the looming destruction of Jerusalem, as Christianity separates from Judaism.
The reason for preterism is found in two of the first three verses in Revelation: Rev. 1:1, 3. There John tells us that the events he is prophesying will "soon" take place because (in his view) "the time is at hand." I don't know how I had missed that introduction in my reading of Revelation. I don't see anyway around this problem for the other views.
Presenting two dispensational views was an odd feature of the book. Why two very different interpretations from the same school of thought? However, when all is said and done, at least the reader can see that dispensationalism is changing with the times (which is actually good news).
The idealist view seemed a bit abstract and unnatural. I don't hear of too many idealists. And maybe this chapter is helpful in understanding why the view is not making much headway.
I wish the authors had been given an opportunity to critique each others' chapters. They do allude to the positions of the others from time to time, but they were not given the chance to actually engage the others' leading arguments.
One funny thing in the book is that the dispensationalist Robert Thomas urges readers to use the grammatical-historical approach to all biblical interpretation. He says that this will lead the reader of Revelation to a dispensational understanding of the book. Then he sets forth Milton Terry as the best author to write a book on how to interpret Scripture in that way. But the preterist author (Kenneth Gentry) uses Milton Terry's work to support his own view! Milton Terry himself is a preterist. I wonder if the dispensationalist author even knew that.
I recommend this book as an introduction to the various approaches to Revelation. I think readers will be impressed with the case for preterism, even if they are not fully and finally convinced by the author.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Clears up the confusion on the Book of Revelation 20 décembre 1999
Par Todd Grotenhuis - Publié sur
Format: Broché
Is there a harder book in the Bible to understand than Revelation? This Four Views volume offers four of the main approaches to interpreting the book -- in a somewhat brief format (232 pages), the entire book of Revelation is summarized according to four differing viewpoints. Unfortunately a fifth position, the "Historicist" view, is given only a passing glance as a view that has (apparently) fallen out of favor (despite the fact that this view used to be, and still may be, very popular among some). Also some of the views that *are* defended in the book are not the "pure" forms of those positions: the preterist (which locates all prophetic fulfillments in the 1st cent., A.D.) and idealist (which sees all prophecies as recurring in time, rather than pointing to single events) both see in Rev. 20 a brief reference to Christ's final, definitive triumph that is still in the future. The overall presentation by each of the authors is a good one, though; if you're confused about how to interpret Revelation, this book should clear up some of the fog.
27 internautes sur 29 ont trouvé ce commentaire utile 
2.0 étoiles sur 5 Really Three Views 24 septembre 2003
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Format: Broché Achat vérifié
As other reviews have noted, the main disappointment here is that this book summarily dismisses historicism, which is a mainstay on any scholarly list of the four systems of interpretation.
Although it is true that historicism is no longer a popular view, it deserves full treatment for three reasons. First, historicism was the predominant protestant view for three or more centuries and should be include for completeness. Second, historicist are producing many books in response to the futurism of "Left Behind", making readers curious to know how these views fit in. Finally, it is not inconceivable that the ultimate truth will include some elements from each of the four camps, so one should be well-versed in all four views.
I certainly hope that the next version includes historicism, as well as the counter-point format.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Needed Counter-Responses 17 novembre 1999
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Format: Broché
One of the best features in most of the Counterpoints volumes is the debate format. After each paper the other authors are allowed to critique it, and (in some Counterpoints volumes) sometimes the main author is allowed to respond to the critiques.
I was disappointed that this volume did not incorporate the debate format. Each author presents his paper, and that is that. There is very little interaction with the other authors.
The strength of the individual papers varied. Gentry did a good job defending the preterist approach. Hamstra did a good job convincing me that the idealist view is less a hermeneutical approach than it is an application of the text. Pate needed to explain exactly what it is that makes the progressive dispensationalist view distinctive. Thomas didn't say anything new in his presentation of the classical dispensationalist view.
The book would have been far better if it had presented the four views that have been predominant historically: the Futurist, Preterist, Historicist and Idealist views. They ignored the historicist view altogether and instead presented two slightly different futurist views.
In my opinion the senior editor at Zoindervan needs to call for some kind of consistency in the Counterpoints series. Either include responses in all the volumes, or don't.
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