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Heavenly Lights: The Apparitions of Fatima And the Ufo Phenomenon (Anglais) Broché – 2 juillet 2005

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Par Un client le 26 juillet 2005
Format: Broché
En fai, cést le premier bilan objectif des apparitions mariales
de Fatima, 1917, suivant la definition classique de lÉglise Catholique. À la fin des centaines d'ouvrages, plus ou moins marques par l'especulation et/ou l'imagination de la foi, on a pour ceux qui cherchent une image plus porche du réel la possibilite de reconstruire les faits de Fatima 1917 sur des
sources en premiere main et enquetes officieles gardés aux archives du sanctuaire.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 A Scholarly Attempt to Explain the Fatima Phenomena. 8 février 2007
Par J. Walsh - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
This book attempts to explain the 1917 Fatima phenomena from outside the religious envelope and to base conclusions on facts as stated by first hand witnesses. The Fatima happening was viewed by probably the largest number of people ever assembled for such a event (50,000) and, therefore, a large number of witness testimonies are available. The authors were even able to interview some witnesses still living. The large number of witnesses allowed for some statistical analysis which revealed some startling discoveries, such as defining the narrow physical area in which "drying" and "healings" took place. Additionally, by determining the physical location of some distant witnesses, they were able, using some simple trigonometry, to calculate the physical size of the object that the crowd said they saw. The majority of the crowd was illiterate, so consequently much of the testimoney is within the confines of their religious believe system. The authors do a good job of accounting for this fact. A number of witnesses were also educated people, which adds credence to the testimonies.

For readers interested in the continuing investigations into the UFO phenomenon, this book is a must to read.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 An Instant Classic 24 juillet 2005
Par Dante Rosati - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
First published in 1982(!) in Portuguese (which has kept it

virtually invisible to most of UFOlogical community), this book

is now published in translation, complete with an imprimatur in

the form of a forward by Jacques Vallee.

What do you get if you take away the Christian interpretation

from the Fatima apparitions? Only the largest and most dramatic

mass UFO sighting in history, witnessed by ~50,000 people!

In this meticulous phenomenological presentation, the authors

have dug deep into the historical record as only Portuguese

speaking researchers could, tracking down accounts from the time

in the form of newspapers, meteorological reports, letters

written by witnesses to their relatives, and even a couple of

eye witnesses still alive when they were doing their research.

What is crucial here was going back to the original testimonies

and stories. Lucia, the primary "seer" ("experiencer"?), later

entered a convent, and her story became progressively more and

more attuned to the Catholic paradigm, her writings made

subject to approval by Church authorities. The authors have put

less emphasis on these later "official" versions, and relied

more on the first reports. Lucia originally never said it was

the Virgin Mary she saw, it was the adults around her that

jumped to that conclusion. Based on the time and culture they

lived in, how else could they have interpreted it?

What emerges is something far stranger and less easy to

interpret than a "simple" Marian apparition. Through careful

analysis and comparison with other UFO cases, they show that

most if not all elements present in the Fatima apparitions are

found throughout the UFO literature as well.

Of course the unique element of this case is the mass sighting

on October 13, 1917, when a large crowd of approximately 50,000

people including all social classes from farmers to professors

and journalists witnessed a whole host of dramatic phenomena

involving the sun (or possibly a craft or energy phenomena

appearing similar to the sun), strange atmospheric effects, as

well as objects traveling through the sky, some apparently with

occupants. There is a chapter of statistical analysis of witness

testimonies, correlation of descriptions of the event from four

towns using trigonometry, as well as discussion of chromatic,

thermal and atmospheric effects, mechanical breakdowns,

simultaneous cures, and much more.

While others have raised the issue of Fatima in relation to the

UFO phenomena, this book is the first to my knowledge to present

in-depth original research on anything like this scale. I

believe it is indeed an instant (20 years later!) classic

describing one of the most important cases on record.
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1.0 étoiles sur 5 FATIMA, 1917, THROUGH THE LENS OF FANTASY 17 septembre 2009
Par EDMUND J. GRANT - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
"Heavenly Lights: the Apparitions of Fatima and the UFO Phenomenon" is the first volume of a trilogy of books (in English) whose primary author is Portuguese professor/writer Joachim Fernandes, with some volumes co-authored by writer Fina D'Armada. These two authors have been among Portugal's most prominent resident UFOlogists for close to the last 30 years. The other books of the trilogy series are "Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident" and "Fatima Revisited: The Apparition Phenomenon in Ufology, Psychology and Science". These books represent a loose summary of the authors' long-term traditional work in this "UFOs at Fatima" fantasy, with additional material input from other authors, editors and translators.

The core theme of all 3 Volumes is to seek to co-opt and displace the well known Fatima, Portugal visionary events of 1917 as a religious apparition. This is done by attempting to superimpose a case that although the authors agree that stupendous events did indeed occur there on October 13, 1917, they were in reality a major example of a visit to Earth by extraterrestrials in UFOs. Furthermore, that submit that they could not be the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of the Lord Jesus, as the Catholic church has supported and promulgated as "worth of belief" for close to the last 80 years. The authors and promoters strive to buildup interest and credibility for this particular book series by highlighting their document research at the Fatima archives in 1978, and by being repeated exponents of the "we saw the original documents" of Fatima mantra.

A brief summary follows of these original Fatima apparition reports. There were reported to be 6 major apparitions by a beautiful young lady on a small holm-oak tree (Carrasqueira) purported to be witnessed by 3 very young shepherd children, Lucia 10, Francisco 9 and Jacinta 7, beginning on May 13, 1917 and ending on October 13, 1917. The children reported that the lady announced on her final visit that she was "The Lady of the Rosary", known by Catholics worldwide to be none other than the Virgin Mary herself. This last visit climaxed with a 15 minute series of totally spectacular cosmic and solar phenomena, that has come to be known as the "Miracle of the Sun", and was reportedly witnessed by approx. 70,000 people, up to 40 miles away. On the prior July 13th, statements were made by the seer children of the prediction given to them by the lady that she would perform a miracle on Oct 13th, so that all may believe. This prediction spread quickly throughout Portugal and thus...the vast crowd that was in attendance on October 13th, as reported by all of the major secular newspapers of Portugal on that day.

In recent months, I have had in my possession several of the Portuguese language books that have been used by the authors in their trilogy series as some of their reference sources. Comparing these volumes with "Heavenly Lights..." and the rest of the trilogy as a 31 year research veteran myself of technical, religious and historical subjects, I regret to say that I am really stunned by the poor detail quality of this trilogy work that passes itself off as a unique and serious research project.

I really do support a "let the documents speak" sentiment, as in any research project, but in my opinion the authors and editors have demonstrably failed in their attempts to "let them speak" here. They have instead relied on fantasy, gross misrepresentations, and some poor rendering of Portuguese language translations that are woven around and interlaced with some of the accepted historical elements of those 1917 events. The writers in this trilogy have also employed frequent use of selective "cherry-picking" of key phrases out of context, displayed much creative logic and otherwise have submitted a boring exercise of poorly evidenced, gymnastic literary arguments. The result is a statement of sophistic reasoning, a deeply flawed and a fallacious product of so-called meticulous research. The examples of the above are far too numerous to list them all here, but please see my review of "Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident" on this website called "THE LADY OF THE CARRASQUEIRA", for only a few examples of the above authors' methodology.

Instead of letting the evidence lead one to eventually compelling logical conclusions, this work and its complements are a prime example of preconceived biased arguments that are amalgamated with historical Fatima data and then all shaped and shoe-horned to fit into their own belief system of "Extraterrestrial visits to Earth via UFOs." and specifically into ones that just had to be the entities responsible for the Fatima events of 1917 !.

To any believers of UFOlogy reading this, I would say that my words here are not disavowing any or all possibilities of occasions of UFO visits to Earth throughout history, nor is it any critique directed toward UFOlogy in general. To each his/her own faith in their own individual belief systems. I am only saying that these authors have not produced credible or convincing evidence for any serious scenario that E.T.s in UFOs had visited our planet in Fatima, Portugal in 1917.

In summary, the closest description that comes to my mind of this book and its companions of the trilogy is that it is another exercise of Sigmund Freud's "free-association" technique of thought generation. Its use of fantasizing betrays a woeful lack of detailed real knowledge of the Fatima events of 1917, and it is saturated by imprecision, fallacious reasoning, and nonsensical conclusions.

"Heavenly Lights..." and the rest of this trilogy might appeal to those fans of science fiction masters such as Isaac Asimov and many others, because this book series is indeed full of fiction and if so, I hope they would all enjoy it. Most importantly though, it is definitely not a work of straightforward definitive research that will give a prosaic answer to all those who may be looking for a different but credible version of the Fatima 1917 events, an alternative to the one that has been promulgated at Fatima for close to the last 90 years, first mainly by those who witnessed it all and since then by their successors in faith.

Edmund Grant
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1.0 étoiles sur 5 First the believers, then the skeptics, and now this. Sigh. 17 janvier 2006
Par Ludix - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
Books about the events at Fatima generally fall into two categories. On one side are the pious Believers, who are convinced that Fatima was a supernatural manifestation. On the other are the haughty Skeptics, who dismiss this and all other "miracles" as a mass delusion or hoax.

This book presents the possibility that the Fatima events represented a close encouter with a UFO -- specifically, with "beings" and technologies unknown to us.

The authors appear to have convinced themselves that these beings and technologies actually exist, so they don't waste any time trying to convince the reader. Eyewitness accounts of the Fatima events are exhaustively quoted, followed by comparisons with similarly-described UFO encounters from around the world. Impressive-sounding but meaningless scientific jargon is employed in a lame attempt to "explain" the technology of the "beings."

Nobody's credentials, credibility or agenda is ever questioned. Nobody with an unsympathetic point of view is cited. The result feels contrived and disappointing, much like the arguments of the Believers and the Skeptics.

Any study of Fatima, especially the "Miracle of the Sun," must come to grips with a simple, well-documented fact: NOT EVERYONE IN THE CROWD SAW ANYTHING HAPPEN. Even the Believers admit this uncomfortable truth. (The Skeptics, unsurprisingly, gloat upon it.) Given this, the UFO explanation doesn't hold water. Wouldn't EVERYONE have seen a flying saucer?

This book is recommended for Fatima completists only. Hilarious cover, though.
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1.0 étoiles sur 5 They do not exist 27 août 2014
Par A. Garramone - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
There are no UFOs !!! If there were in just the years I'm alive that's (56) UF0s would of been seen at least by everyone in the USA if not the whole world by now not just a few people here and there . Then the people who have taken photos of some UFOs, every expert has rebuked every photo. There is not one true photo of a UFO. So we have no real convincing evidence that they exist. But the blessed mother has appeared at Fatima and many other places and half the world if not more has gone to the places and something has happened,a miracle of sorts. Mary is now appearing in medjugorje and I went there . I am a 56 yr old woman in my right mind . I have all my senses and I know right from wrong I have sound reasoning. While in medjugorje I witness a miracle . I seen it with my own eyes and watched it non stop for 10 - 15 minutes and that was the sun was alive, it was moving , I witness an opaque circle come out of the center ( the host) I Seen then the color of light pink travel across the sky to the mountain of her appearance and back to start over again all this as I stared straight at it, the sun, no glasses, no pain ,no glare !!! When the vision occurred the birds that were sitting calmly in the tree out side the church begun going crazy,flying in circles. then they sat back in the tree but nothing moved not even a leaf was moving in the tree we were watching in disbelief. then when the vision was over( this took place inside the church in a room) the birds went in circles again and then back into the tree where the leaves were moving once again . When they didn't move there was a feeling something you just knew, while nothing moved in tree or birds nothing was moving in that short time in that whole area. Many miracles happen through her and I could never have afforded to go but when she calls you she provides a way and I havent spoken nor seen my classmate in 40 yrs and out of blue she calls me & tells me I'm the one she's to take she was told in a dream ?!! So you figure it out . But I know what I seen and felt and I witness the visionary one of them also.I believe. I know I didn't dream or make this up. it's all true. These things, more people see and experience, then any UFOs, they are not real. Think about it seriously ,think it through. You'll realize it .There is no mention of other life everywhere in the bible only here on earth. We would surely know "definitely" by now if there were life somewhere else. you got to just start thinking before believing in this stuff. You'll believe in UFOs before God , you'll believe in ghost before angels, the devil or god . You believe in all things non existing but refuse to believe in an intelligence that gave you life !!! Go figure that out ?? God Bless !!
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