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  • Interprète: Gyorgy Ligeti
  • Compositeur: Gyorgy Ligeti
  • CD (22 septembre 2008)
  • Nombre de disques: 5
  • Label: Warner Classics
  • ASIN : B0016A8E1K
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Disque : 1

  1. Melodien - Schonberg Ensemble
  2. Chamber concerto I corrente fliessend - Schonberg Ensemble
  3. Chamber concerto II calmo sostenuto - Schonberg Ensemble
  4. Chamber concerto III movimento preciso e meccanico - Schonberg Ensemble
  5. Chamber concerto IV presto - Schonberg Ensemble
  6. Piano concerto I vivace molto ritmico e preciso - Asko Ensemble
  7. Piano concerto II lento e deserto - Asko Ensemble
  8. Piano concerto III vivace cantabile - Asko Ensemble
  9. Piano concerto IV allegro risoluto molto ritmico - Asko Ensemble
  10. Piano concerto V presto luminoso - Asko Ensemble
  11. Mysteries of the macabre - Asko Ensemble

Disque : 2

  1. Lontano for orchestra 1967 - Berliner Philharmoniker
  2. Atmospheres for orchestra 1961 - Berliner Philharmoniker
  3. Apparitions for orchestra 1958 1959 lento - Berliner Philharmoniker
  4. Apparitions for orchestra 1958 1959 agitato - Berliner Philharmoniker
  5. San francisco polyphony for orchestra 1967 - Berliner Philharmoniker
  6. Romanian concerto for orchestra 1951 andantino - Berliner Philharmoniker
  7. Romanian concerto for orchestra 1951 allegro vivac - Berliner Philharmoniker
  8. Romanian concerto for orchestra 1951 adagio ma non - Berliner Philharmoniker
  9. Romanian concerto for orchestra 1951 molto vivace - Berliner Philharmoniker

Disque : 3

  1. Cello concerto I - Reinbert de Leeuw
  2. Cello concerto II - Reinbert de Leeuw
  3. Clocks and clouds - Reinbert de Leeuw
  4. Violin concerto I vivacissimo luminoso - Reinbert de Leeuw
  5. Violin concerto II aria hoquetus choral andante - Reinbert de Leeuw
  6. Violin concerto III intermezzo presto fluido - Reinbert de Leeuw
  7. Violin concerto IV passacaglia lento inteno - Reinbert de Leeuw
  8. Violin concerto V appassionato agitato molto - Reinbert de Leeuw
  9. With pipes drums fiddles on poems I fabula - Katalin Karolyi
  10. With pipes drums fiddles on poems II tancdal - Katalin Karolyi
  11. With pipes drums fiddles on poems III kinai templo - Katalin Karolyi
  12. With pipes drums fiddles on poems IV kuli - Katalin Karolyi
  13. With pipes drums fiddles on poems V alma alma - Katalin Karolyi
  14. With pipes drums fiddles on poems VI keseredes - Katalin Karolyi
  15. With pipes drums fiddles on poems VII szajko - Katalin Karolyi

Disque : 4

  1. Hamburg concerto - praeludium - Asko Ensemble
  2. Hamburg concerto - signale, tanz, choral - Asko Ensemble
  3. Hamburg concerto - aria, aksak, hoketus - Reinbert de Leeuw
  4. Hamburg concerto - solo, intermezzo, mixtur, kanon - Asko Ensemble
  5. Hambourg concerto - spectra - Asko Ensemble
  6. Hamburg concerto - capriccio - Asko Ensemble
  7. Hamburg concerto - hymnus - Asko Ensemble
  8. Double concerto - calmo con tenerezza - Asko Ensemble
  9. Double concerto - allegro corrente - Asko Ensemble
  10. Ligeti project - ramifications - Asko Ensemble
  11. Requiem : introitus - Berliner Philharmoniker
  12. Requiem : kyrie - Berliner Philharmoniker
  13. Requiem : de die judicii sequentia - Berliner Philharmoniker
  14. Requiem : lacrimosa - Berliner Philharmoniker

Disque : 5

  1. Aventures - Asko Ensemble
  2. Nouvelles aventures I - Schonberg Ensemble
  3. Nouvelles aventures II - Schonberg Ensemble
  4. Artikulation for tape - Max Bonnay
  5. Eight pieces from musica ricercata sostenuto - Max Bonnay
  6. Eight pieces from musica ricercata allegro con sp - Max Bonnay
  7. Eight pieces from musica ricercata tempo di valse - Max Bonnay
  8. Eight pieces from musica ricercata con moto giusto - Max Bonnay
  9. Eight pieces from musica ricercata vivace energico - Max Bonnay
  10. Eight pieces from musica ricercata adagio mesto - Max Bonnay
  11. Eight pieces from musica ricercata vivace capricci - Max Bonnay
  12. Eight pieces from musica ricercata andante misurat - Max Bonnay
  13. Dialogo adagio rubato cantabile, sonata for cello - David Geringas
  14. Capricio presto con slancio, sonata for cello solo - David Geringas
  15. Big turtle fanfare from the south china sea - Peter Masseurs
  16. Ballad and dance andantino - Asko Ensemble
  17. Ballad and dance allegro vivace, energisch - Asko Ensemble
  18. Old hungarian ballroom dances - Asko Ensemble

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Par Cymus TOP 500 COMMENTATEURS le 3 avril 2011
Ligeti, né en 1923 en Roumanie et décédé en 2006 à Vienne, est un cas un peu à part dans la musique contemporaine. Tout au long de sa carrière il a produit une musique très abstraite, de laquelle semble absente toute mélodie et qui semble donc très difficile d'approche, alors que, bien au contraire, elle paraît l'une des plus accessibles de son époque. Ligeti n'essaie pas de délivrer un message abscons, mais a toujours mis l'accent sur les textures sonores, la recherche de sensations sonores nouvelles, sans recourir aux instruments électroniques, en travaillant sur les décalage de tons, ou de rythmes, sur les associations de timbres, les harmoniques inhabituelles, etc. C'est une musique en réalité très sensuelle, en ce qu'elle s'adresse avant tout à l'oreille, au sens donc, et qu'elle rappelle, ce que les interprétations musicologiques des plus grands compositeurs nous font oublier: la musique, c'est avant tout du son, et non des sentiments ou de la spiritualité. Le coffret Teldec regorge d'exemples pour illustrer ce propos, que ce soit le requiem, les aventures et les nouvelles aventures, les ramifications, atmosphères pour ne citer que les œuvres les plus connues. C'est ce qui en fait une musique si attractive, toujours passionnante.
Ce petit coffret de cinq CD ne constitue pas, loin s'en faut, une intégrale des œuvres de György Ligeti, mais une sorte d'anthologie, qui nous montre la grande diversité et la richesse de sa musique, avec un parti constant : toujours chercher, inventer et surprendre. Sorti quelques mois après la mort du compositeur, le coffret se présente aussi comme son testament.
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Magnifique coffret fait du vivant du compositeur avec sa collaboration. Cela laisse supposer une interprétation exemplaire, et comme la prise de son est de très bonne qualité, l'écoute est réaliste et particulièrement dynamique.
Un indispensable pour tout amateur de musique !
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HASH(0x8ca5266c) étoiles sur 5 The foundation of a complete Ligeti library 7 décembre 2009
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Like Beethoven and Stravinsky, Ligeti's output divides rather neatly into three distinct style periods. First are the early works from Ligeti's pre-flight years. These are a combination of juvenilia, Eastern European folklorist works, pieces inhabiting a Bartókian sound world, and the occasional bit of internationalist or modernist experimentation that hints at what was to come. Most of these works are of minor importance beyond the world of Ligeti immersion. But a handful, such as the First String Quartet, and a few of the movements from Musica Ricercata, are worthy of his more mature works.

The heart of Ligeti's output, and the basis for the consensus that places him among postmodernism's greatest composers, is the series of masterworks written during his middle period which lasted from roughly 1957 (after his escape from Hungary) to 1977 (marked by the completion of his opera Le Grand Macabre). The "sound surface" compositions from the period, including Atmosphères, the Requiem, Lux Aeterna and much of the Second String Quartet, fall into a genre of acoustic music that was not unique to Ligeti -- it's also associated with Penderecki and Xenakis, and more peripherally with composers like Lutoslawski -- but Ligeti was arguably the greatest of the lot. Central to this musical language is the elevation of timbre as the most important musical parameter, supplanting the traditional pitch-priority that had been dominant in Western art music since its inception. Ligeti's vocabulary in these works consists largely of tone clusters, either in sustained notes, or as the unfolding of many rapidly moving chromatically undulating lines, in both cases creating a composite texture where the primary impression is of the resulting tone color, rather than the melodic or harmonic implications of any individual instrumental line. It was this music that was brought to wider attention through its use to accompany the monolith and stargate sequences in 2001: A Space Odyssey, leading many to think of it as "space music".

Other works from this period follow a model developed in Aventures and Nouvelles Aventures, which are closer to the serial pointillist style of many post-WW2 composers, but with an emphasis on color and rhythmic gestures in a way characteristic of Ligeti (and more musically interesting than many of the more formulaic works of Ligeti's colleagues). A third kind of work from this period explores polymeters and rhythmic phase patterns. In the former category falls the third movements from the both the Chamber Concerto and Second String Quartet. In the latter category would be Continuum and the Three Pieces for Two Pianos.

Le Grand Macabre, by far the lengthiest of Ligeti's works, represented a culmination of his middle period work, and additionally introduced an element of postmodern pastiche. After this, Ligeti seemed to feel that he had reached a dead end. Not wanting to go on rewriting works like Atmosphères and Aventures over and over, Ligeti, like Beethoven, fell relatively silent for a few years. Then, in 1982, the horn trio, followed by the first of the piano etudes, launched a third style period. These late works represent somewhat of a conservative retrenchment from Ligeti's more experimental middle period works, in rather the same way that Stravinsky's neoclassical period represented a step back from the experimentation of his youth. Many of Ligeti's late works, including the horn trio, are unabashedly neoclassical, and return to an emphasis on pitch-priority and musical gestures. Still Ligeti resisted the most hackneyed temptations to which some of his colleagues succumbed (e.g., Penderecki's and Rochberg's forgettable attempts to time travel back to the 19th Century).

Several of these late works have found considerable favor with performers, as they are generally (but not always!) easier to perform, eschew the extended playing techniques of Ligeti's earlier works, and are less challenging for casual listeners. But I'm confident that Ligeti's historical legacy will ultimately depend on posterity's judgment of his middle period works, rather than the more conventional compositions written between 1982 and the end of his career in roughly 2001.

Teldec's Ligeti Project comprises five CDs that focus mainly on the large ensemble works that Sony apparently didn't have the money to record in their Ligeti Edition CDs (though Sony did manage to release Le Grand Macabre which is probably the most expensive of all to put on). Taken together, as other reviewers have pointed out, these five Teldec albums and the eight Sony albums give you almost the entire Ligeti oeuvre. Some piano music is missing: three of the four Piano Etudes from Book 3, the Three Bagatelles for David Tudor (from 1961, consisting of a single note), and a work of juvenilia called Chromatic Fantasy that Ligeti withdrew but is still worth a listen. Also missing is the string orchestra version of Ramifications (though you do get the version for 12 solo strings in LP4), and the tape piece Glissandi from 1957 (which may have been withdrawn by the composer, but is still available on an old Wergo recording). A third sort tape piece, simply called Pièce Électronique No. 3, was sketched in 1958, but not realized until a 1996 residency in the Netherlands. Also nice to have is the original German version of Le Grand Macabre, which you might be able to track down from another Wergo recording. A single-LP edition from Wergo condensed the opera to half its length, a concise and very enjoyable version, but one not currently available on CD as far as I can tell.

But back to Teldec's contribution: with this five-CD boxed set, you get all the liner notes from the five standalone Ligeti Project CDs, but not the accompanying photos and score excerpts. The latter in particular is a shame, since examining a Ligeti score can be highly illuminating. Unlike Penderecki, Cage and Stockhausen, Ligeti always used conventional musical notation and often notated music in 4/4 time even when no pulse was supposed to be heard. One such example is the excerpt from the Kyrie of the Requiem (supplied in LP4 but missing from this set). In addition to being in 4/4, it clearly shows the division of the chorus into five sections (rather than the customary four) with each one representing a fugal voice that is in turn comprised of a kind of four-part canon in augmentation where the clusters fan out from a single unison starting pitch. Nevertheless, purchasing the box set has its advantages: you'll take up about one-third the space on your CD shelf, and you'll probably get a nice discount over buying all five albums individually (though some will suggest, not unreasonably, that the fifth CD is largely redundant).

I don't regret my purchase, and I even had two of the standalone CDs in my collection already (I gave them to my sister-in-law). If you're interested enough in Ligeti to have read through this review to the end, and you can afford this set, then I think you too will not regret indulging in it, and enjoying a few hours of the finest of Ligeti. Scoop up the Sony disks too while you can, and maybe add one of the CD sets of Ligeti's complete piano music to pick up the missing keyboard works, giving you a more-or-less complete collection.

If dollars are a little scarce, or you're not a convinced Ligeti fan/completist, you might consider getting only LP2, LP4 and LE1. Add either LP5 or LE4 for Aventures and Nouvelles Aventures, and perhaps LE6 for the harpsichord, organ and piano duo pieces, and you'll have most of the essential works in a few CDs. Or indulge in the four-CD Deutsche Grammophon set, and you'll accomplish much the same thing for roughly the same price. The DG disks have the advantage that every track is an important piece of music (no early period fluff to contend with), but this does make it harder to add in the missing pieces later if you want to fill out your collection. Either way, sit back with open ears and mind, some good headphones and a quiet place -- and scores if you can find them at your local library -- and transport yourself back to the heady days of the 1960s or 1970s, and imagine (or relive) being blown away by these sounds when hearing them for the first time.
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HASH(0x8c7805f4) étoiles sur 5 Highly recommended box-set 24 août 2008
Par Michael 'De Smurführer' Thomsen - Publié sur Amazon.com
This box should probably be your first choice if you want to get acquainted with the works of Ligeti. The recordings in this box are overseen by Ligeti himself, and they were supposed to be definitive recordings that after his death could show conductors how his music was supposed to be played. As detailed in Richard Steinitz' Ligeti biography, it took two record companies to bring us the complete authoritative works of Ligeti on CD. Sony started a series of cd's called "The Ligeti Edition", but they had to concentrate on the smaller works for solo instruments and chamber ensembles - they simply weren't able to produce the biggest works for choir and orchestra to the composers satisfaction. The project was aborted after 7 cd's, and later continued by Teldec. This box contains all Teldec's 5 cd's of the recordings of the really big works. And as I started out saying, it's recommended as the first Ligeti item to buy.
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HASH(0x8c780bac) étoiles sur 5 Together For Less 7 août 2008
Par Gene Barnes - Publié sur Amazon.com
The skinny: Some of us paid significant sums of money to get these CDs when they were individually wrapped. You can get them now for much less, and in one convenient package. What you won't get are the equally fine 7 CDs that Sony produced under a similar concept (Ligeti, one CD at a time) before they abandoned their work, nor will you get the opera Le Grand Macabre (still available here and there on the Wergo label).

Not to worry, the present 5-CD set is chock full of remarkable music (a great amount available nowhere else, or in not-as-fine performances). Ligeti was a true original. When he moved from one kind of music to another, he adapted his vocabulary to suit the circumstances, and that means almost always that you're in for a big surprise. It's novelty, sure, but novelty with a purpose: Not just to play the enfant terrible, the naughty boy, but with tangible goals of making valid musical statements. Many other Eastern European avant-gardists could only wish they were half as talented in that regard. This is music that opens your eyes. Wide.
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HASH(0x8c780df8) étoiles sur 5 Definitive Ligeti 8 décembre 2009
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THE LIGETI PROJECT is the second of two efforts -- the first being Sony's "Gyorgy Ligeti Edition" -- to offer Gyorgy Ligeti's complete works in performances approved by the composer himself. While Sony's series mainly recorded Ligeti's chamber output, this successor series on Warner Classics was able to record his orchestral works. THE LIGETI PROJECT originally encompassed five full-priced discs released between 2001 and 2004. Happily, Warner Classics later packaged all these together in this box set, and you can enjoy many of Ligeti's key pieces at an economical price. The performers here are top-class and Ligeti's own hand-picked, with among others pianist Pierre-Laurent Aimard continuing on from the Sony series, the Schoenberg Ensemble cond. Reinbert de Leeuw on the pieces for smaller forces, and the Berlin Philharmonic cond. Jonathan Nott on the large-scale works.

Excepting some early pieces written before the composer escaped from Communist Hungary, Ligeti's music generally falls into two periods. The first lasted from the late 1950s to the mid-1970s and is the era of "micropolyphony", an orchestral texture so dense that individual lines can scarcely be made out. From this period we have "Apparitions", "Atmospheres", "Adventures/Nouvelles Adventures", the Requiem, "Lontano", the Chamber, Cello and Double Concertos, "Ramifications", "Melodien", "Clocks and Clouds" and "San Francisco Polyphony". This is the spooky music featured in Kubrick's film 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY.

Ligeti's second stylistic period came after a long hiatus at the end of the 1970s. Now he was mainly concerned with rhythm, including the remarkable music of the African Pygmies and of jazz innovators and with the unusual tunings one finds in Eastern European folk music, ocarinas and mountain horns. To this era belong the Piano and Violin Concertos, "Sippal, dobbal, nadihegeduvel" for soprano and percussion and -- what was sadly to be Ligeti's last work and possibly left uncompleted -- the Hamburg Concerto for horn.

The project has several works which don't fit neatly into these two eras and, to be honest, are basically filler, at least for me. These are the early "Concert Romanesc", a transcription of "Musica Ricercata" for bayan, and a godawful arrangement of old-timey ballroom dances. Ligeti's tape piece "Artikulations" is present here, in a stereo mixdown from four-channel, which is sometimes fun. He supressed its successor experiment "Glissandi" as juvenalia, though it was once released on a Wergo record. These were originally released on the fifth and last disc of the series, which I detested, but in this box set you're still getting the good stuff for less dough, so I can't complain as much and I can't rate the box as a whole less than five stars.

Ligeti's music seems to have had a much wider appeal than other contemporary composers. He was an avant-garde figure, but one keen to write music that is intriguing to the ear instead of merely interesting in paper, and there's a great deal of humour in his work. If you are new to Ligeti, I'd suggest saving THE LIGETI PROJECT for a bit later, after you've succeeded in acquiring the eight volumes of Sony's Gyorgy Ligeti Edition; sadly, Sony has allowed those recordings to fall out of print just like everything on the label that isn't crossover claptrap, so you need to move on those right away. Still, this here is half of Ligeti's amazing body of work, and you should hear it sooner or later.
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HASH(0x8c785150) étoiles sur 5 An Elite Compendium For Avant-Garde Connoisseurs 12 août 2009
Par dv_forever - Publié sur Amazon.com
Ligeti died just a short time ago in 2006. Since then, two record companies have released collections of his music with the intention of capturing that rare avant-garde dollar. This Teldec Edition of 5 CDs I would pick over the competing DG set dubbed "Clear or Cloudy". Ligeti is a difficult composer to be sure but it's interesting that he's become perhaps the most approachable of the high-modernists that came to dominate western art music in the middle of the last century. His music seems to strike a chord with listeners. It has an appeal that has eluded his contemporaries Boulez, Nono, Stockhausen and Xenakis, among others. The fact that Kubrick used Ligeti repeatedly in his films certainly helped with that. Perhaps another filmmaker can do the same for Xenakis? Don't hold your breath on that one.

Now that Teldec has released these splendid recordings in one nifty set, aren't you glad you waited and didn't pay full price for each CD individually? In the world of classical music, rampant re-releases of catalogue material is the norm and there are instances such as these where playing the waiting game pays.

CD 1 contains the Piano Concerto with Pierre-Laurent Aimard. This is one of his signature pieces as he has recorded the work before with Boulez on DG. Whatever version you prefer will be more of individual perception as the performances are quite similar. This latter version is perhaps more definitive as Aimard has this music in his bones by now. This CD also contains the piece "Melodien", the Chamber Concerto and some excerpts from the opera Le Grand Macabre arranged and titled "Mysteries of the Macabre".

CD 2 is a favorite of mine as it contains Ligeti's most famous orchestral compositions, ( Lontano, Atmospheres, Apparitions ), played by the Berlin Philharmonic conducted by Jonathon Nott. The Vienna Philharmonic recorded these works under Claudio Abbado for DG and as fine as they were, these BPO performances supersede them. Plus we have the rarer San Francisco Polyphony and the premiere recording of the Concert Romanesc, a piece that sounds like an undercooked imitation of Bartok. The sound quality is outstanding throughout this CD as well as the whole set.

CD 3 has the Cello and Violin Concertos among some slighter works. This again directly competes with Boulez's work for DG. Overall, with such difficult music, you're not going to harp too much about which is the superior performance. If you own and listen to both, you're a more dedicated listener than most.

CD 4 is another stand out as it has the Requiem, one of Ligeti's most outrageous and insane pieces. Perfect stuff to terrify people who disapprove of avant-garde music. You also receive the Horn Concerto, the Double Concerto and the short and sweet piece for strings titled "Ramifications".

CD 5 delves into Ligeti's chamber repertoire. Here we have a lot of small ensemble work, a mixed bag of sorts. The most thrilling part of this CD are the 11 pieces for solo piano Ligeti called "Musica Ricercata".

Dollar for dollar, this is one of the best values you can find for avant-garde music anywhere. If you're a Ligeti fan, you probably own this by now. If you are not a fan but you have an open mind when it comes to music, give this set a shot. At the going rate of $7 per disc, what do you have to lose? This set contains some of the most original compositions of the last century. Anyone who loves music would be smart to grab this one.
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