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Midst Toil and Tribulation par [Weber, David]
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Praise for David Weber's Safehold Series. Superb! --Booklist, starred review, on By Schism Rent Asunder. A brillant new saga... Its focus remains on the people who embody the strengths and weaknesses of a flawed but ever hopeful humanity. Highly recommended--Library Journal, starred review, on By Schism Rent Asunder. Like its predecessors in the Safehold series, the novel paints a vast, stunningly complex political and military tapestry, with wonderful battle scenes.--Kirkus Reviews on By Heresies Distressed. Gripping...Shifting effortlessly between battles among warp-speed starships and among oar-powered galleys, Weber brings the political maneuvering, past and future technologies, and vigorous protagonists together for a cohesive, engrossing whole.--Publishers Weekly, starred review, on Off Armageddon Reef. Vast, complex, intricate, subtle, and unlaydownable. This looks like the start of the biggest thing in science fiction since Isaac Asimov's Foundation series.--Dave Duncan on Off Armageddon Reef. Effortlessly exceeds the magnificence of its predecessor...I cannot emphasize how much I want to read the next chapter in the Safehold saga.--Fantasy Book Critic on By Schism Rent Asunder. Fantastic in every sense of the word-the kind of book that makes you sit back and think about this reality that we call life. Who can ask for more than that? R. A. Salvatore on Off Armageddon Reef --Various

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David Weber's New York Times bestselling Safehold series of military Science Fiction adventure, which began with Off Armageddon Reef, continues with Midst Toil and Tribulation

WAR AND FAMINE

Once the Church of God Awaiting dominated all the kingdoms of Safehold. Then, after centuries of stasis, the island kingdom of Charis began to defy the edicts of Mother Church--egged on, some say, by the mysterious warrior-monk Merlin Athrawes, who enjoys the Charisian royal family's absolute trust.

What vanishingly few people know is that Merlin is the cybernetic avatar of a young woman a thousand years dead, felled in the war in which aliens destroyed Earth...and that since awakening, his task has been to restart the history of the long-hidden human race.

Now, reeling from the wars and intrigues that have cascaded from Charis's declaration of independence, the Republic of Siddermark slides into chaos. The Church has engineered a rebellion, and Siddermark's all-important harvest is at risk. King Cayleb and Queen Sharleyan struggle to stabilize their ally, which will mean sending troops--but, even more importantly, preventing famine. For mass starvation in Safehold's breadbasket is a threat even more ominous than civil war...

At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied.


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  • Nombre de pages de l'édition imprimée : 608 pages
  • Editeur : Tor Books (18 septembre 2012)
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Les personnages de Safehold sont toujours là, toujours attachants mais l'intrigue n'avance plus. Quel est donc l'étrange sortilège qui nous pousse à acheter le tome suivant alors que chaque épisode est une déception en regard des précédents? Ah oui , bien sur, nous voulons revoir les gbagbas...mais bon, il va falloir patienter encore longtemps je crains....
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On retrouve dans ce tome tous les éléments qui font le succès et l'intérêt de cette série: comment amener une société pré-industrielle et profondémment centrée autour d'une église, une manière de penser, à évoluer et commencer à penser par elle-même. Avec toutes les frictions que cela implique, allant jusqu'à la guerre sainte et au schisme. Sachant que cette évolution est nécessaire pour éviter que dans un futur lointain celle-ci soit exterminée. Le poids qui pèse sur les épaules du personnage principal est lourd.
Weber écrit avec beaucoup de détails et d'explication et met en lumière toute la complexité de l'évolution industrielle dans un contexte tendu tel qu'une guerre. Les personnages sont charismatiques et intéressants.
A lire part tous ceux qui aiment la science-fiction mais qui veulent un peu de fraîcheur par rapport à ce que l'on peut trouver habituellement.
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Par Yvan Tomaselli le 12 décembre 2012
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Une des meilleures seriesque j ai pu lire ces 3 dernieres annees. Vivement le prpchain episode! Intrigue fournie. Personnages attachants et complexes. De vrais mechants. Et une vraie critique des exces religieux. A consommer sans moderation.
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comme le reste des livres de l'auteur super comme le reste des livres de l'auteur super comme le reste des livres de l'auteur super
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Beating the rotting corpse of a dead horse. 11 février 2013
Par skippy - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Man, where do i start? Just finished it, and i have to say i have never struggled to read one of Weber's books. Never. This one took me a month to read, seriously, a Month. I like David Weber's books, he has been one of my go to authors for years. 6 books in and nothing much has happened, i certainly hope he's not trying to cover the 100 years war with this story line...

Seriously though David, you could have told this story up to this point in 3 books. Or did Tor screw you into a 12 book contract? I'm going to get the next book in this series, but if it's more like the last books, i will probably not finish the series if you actually get around to it. Another reviewer above me commented that you have to slog through 2/3 of the book to get to the good stuff, he is most definitely correct. The last 1/3 is good stuff, but the ending made me want to chuck my book into the street, then i remembered its a Kindle(love my Kindle Amazon!). Please David, try and move the story line ahead. I'm personally hoping that you have humanity get back to the stars and kick the Gbaba's butt, but i get the feeling from how long you've strung this out, that's another 15 books down the line.

I'm a long time fan and i highly recommend David Weber's other books(Honor Harrington, Dahak, DeVries, etc.), but i just can't recommend this series.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 A Great Start for a Series is Grinding to a Halt 19 juillet 2014
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I have enjoyed the Safehold series very much; until this book. I was about halfway through when the thought struck me that Mr. Weber must have a contract with his publisher to turn on more books in this series than he can fill if the pace continues like the first five. So he has chosen to cram the book with filler which lends nothing to character development or advancement of the plot. Although I purchased each of the first six books as soon as I had finished the previous the reviews I have seen of this book's followup lead me to believe that Weber's slowdown have gotten even worse and encouraged me to postpone purchasing book seven for over six months. I have too many other good books to read to subject myself to plodding through one. I finally had to give up on Jordan's Wheel of Time series because it became a burden, I hope that this one picks up so I can finish it.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 I'm finding this installment to be exhausting, but the series is still promising and I care about the major characters 11 octobre 2012
Par Jason Wills-Starin - Publié sur Amazon.com
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I've been enjoying this series and it was worth the price of the hard bound to read this book.

Stage 1: Full disclosure, I've read this book and the rest of this series. I've read Weber's Honor Harrington series and other than his Vampire novel, I've enjoyed the vast majority of his work.

Stage 2: Cons: This book is too long, too wordy and focuses far too much on the internal conversations and meetings that are not the keys to the history of safehold or her future. The vast majority of the scenes in this book are someone in a parlour or in conversation about some point of action rather than the action itself. I'd say that 12% of the total novel is action and in this form of fiction I think it needs to be at least double that. Were I to draw a plot line for the story arcs described in this novel, I'd be hard pressed to say how Cayleb changed, how Sharleyan changed, how Staynair changed, how Stohnar changed... the list goes on. This book seems to be about Irys, Princess of Corisande and Merlin, but I fear that because no action occurred near her, her arc fell far too flat. I feel like something important is going to happen with her, but I felt that it was hard to care. Please, I beg the author to make those pages worth the read in the next installment.

Merlin's transformation and that of another character(literally a resurrection of sorts) were the most powerful pieces of this entire work. Battles often fell flat and ran into run-on detail festivals that shortchanged action and the value of men for the history teacher's lexicon and abuse of dates. We are more than time passing. This book should have been the same.

Stage 3: What went right. The heroes had some losses. In a land war, the two enemies were far more equal. The conflicts were slightly more believable. The main character a bit less of a Mary Sue. The consequences of PTSD and decision fatigue were believable and well represented. The challenges of the quantitative and qualitative were well represented. The series remains enjoyable.

Stage 4: Why 4 stars and not 3 or 5. I enjoy the series, but this book stretched as close to the 3 as I'm willing to let still stand in the 4. The editor(s) need to help Weber solve what's killing his most recent books. Someone needs to help him pick and choose his battles and make certain that he writes what his audience wants just as much as he writes what is a joy for him. I struggled with finishing this book in three major places. The reason I finished, was because I am invested in the series and I want to see the end. I was very close in all three instances with walking away from it all. That would have meant a 1 star review.
But the book turns around 175 pages before the end. The magic that makes this series work showed up and finished the story like a lion, not the lamb we've been seeing. All of the build up and pay off showed up and made the work worth standing where it does on the shelf. Not enough to make Weber seem the genius who simply lead us down a primrose path and then rescued us before the end, but a deeply flawed book that cleaned up and while far better textually than Books 1-3 for editing, it was a mere tenth of the power and impact of story. There just wasn't enough in this book to make it worth the size. 4 definitely not 5, but the series is far better than a 3 at this time would explain. The characters you've been reading about show up, even if some of your favorites stand on the sidelines and do almost nothing.

Stage 5: Wait for the next book? I'll preorder it, I'll wait, but I would hope for a little more... cohesion. Payoff. Power.
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Praising with Faint Damnation 4 octobre 2012
Par JJ - Publié sur Amazon.com
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In a way, this book represents everything I like about David Weber. It's complex, it's full of action, and it asks some interesting questions about humanity. Safehold, as a series, has been chocked so full of interesting concept and raw potential that I've picked up every book on day one.

All that said, this book also represents everything I don't like about David Weber. It introduces potential for drama, and resolves that drama "offscreen." Characters angst over things that they really should have gotten over immediately. Battles are tense and dramatic, but are buried under layers of geography and technical detail.

The journey of Irys had some serious potential going in, but is largely let down. The relationship between two characters who have been built up over half-a-dozen books develops largely offscreen. The return of a significant character to the story introduces massive potential for drama, which is completely let down by being resolved amicably, offscreen.

Merlin's crisis near the end of the book felt cheap. It seems like something he really should have come to grips with in the past, rather than something which only now rears its head. And he gets far too much introspection in this story, mainly because the reader needs him to exposit a lot of important information frequently to keep moving.

And I simply could not wrap my head around the geography of this book. I actually had to take physical notes and draw paths on the map to understand what was going on in this story. So many names and places are introduced here, often dumped all at once. By the end, I was skipping the topographical detail entirely to get to the meat of the story.

I did enjoy this book. It should bridge pretty well to the next book, and I imagine I'll like that one too. There were interesting things here, or I wouldn't have given ti a 4/5, but it did disappoint me. And it's become increasingly clear to me that we aren't going to see the second Gbaba War, or at least that we shouldn't.

1) Going back to the scifi setting would remove just about everything interesting in the series. Unlike the Honorverse, where weapons and conflicts are explained and built up over the entire series, we'd end up with another Dahak, where the weapons and tactics are largely irrelevant.

2) Large scale wars are not fun to read about. Large scale battles are interesting, complex, and dramatic playgrounds. But wars between "thousands of systems" simply are not interesting. When you get to that scale, you lose the ability to tell a good story without it feeling very small.
I see two ways this series could end. Either there will be a massive jumpcut to the first battle between the Gbaba and the New Terran Empire, or there is a repeat of The Excalibur Alternative's ending.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Passable addition to the series. 4 octobre 2012
Par Ramuthra - Publié sur Amazon.com
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If you liked the rest of the series, this book is more of the same - there is a building up of advantages, in which each side's pro/con list is fully fleshed out, followed by a deluge of morals tied to anvils. By now, it is clear to everyone that Clyntahn is at best a raging sociopath on one of his good days. I don't feel that its necessary to expound upon his evil anymore. The book reaches its climax much like the others, where Charisian forces get to show off their new battle strategy/technology and the enemies eat lead.

At points, I found myself both entertained and at the same time curiously unable to remember what I'd just read. I literally caught myself reading the same paragraph over and over, and I wouldn't realize it. Most of the book is needlessly wordy, the sentences strung together in complex ways. I reached the end of the book rather unexpectedly - I didn't feel like enough had gone on, and the page number threw me off. I thought I had thirty more pages, practically a giant chapter of content left, when in fact it was merely a massive phone book sized listing of every character who ever existed on the planet for a page at a time. After a while, I found it hard to tell who was fighting who, what with names like Green Mountain and Green Valley and some stock names that were actually repeated. Often, I could only tell who was who by the fact that the good guys were usually winning (or valiantly dying, depending on the situation.) There are way, way too many characters for me to remember and care about every single one. I could probably name eight or nine protagonists, and six of the villains. The reason for the large number of characters is understandable - it lets Weber move the story from continent to continent without someone important actually being there. The end result, however, tends to lack focus.

That was the negative bit. I did like a bunch of things about the story, such as the technological progression. At the beginning of the first book, sail-power and muskets are the order of the day. Now, the world is in the throes of really kicking off the industrial era. Charis, having begun experimenting with steam power in the last book, is pushing on with its 'heretical' innovations. The rest of the world is busy playing catch up as Charis forces, cheating via satellite and superhuman androids most of the time, outmaneuver and annihilate forces that get in their way. The description of the technologies, as well as the processes that went into making them, are very detailed and interesting for anyone who likes that sort of history. Merlin was, and still is, a lethal killing machine who breaks up the monotony occasionally by massacring church forces. The scenario is one of my favorites - quality versus quantity, the technological advantage or the numerical one.

In conclusion, this series has its bright spots, but overall there's a kind of gray pall over the whole thing. If you can pay attention, you'll learn a lot about the woes of the guns that predate metal cartridges and the thin hull of the sail powered ship. If you can't, well, you may not get that much out of the books. If you're still buying and reading the books, you're unlikely to complain much. If you've had your doubts over the last couple novels, you may want to reread them and decide if you still want to buy. Personally, no matter how many dull moments appear in the plot, I'll keep reading just to see how it ends.
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