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The fourth edition of Probability, Random Variables and Stochastic Processes has been updated significantly from the previous edition, and it now includes co-author S. Unnikrishna Pillai of Polytechnic University. The book is intended for a senior/graduate level course in probability and is aimed at students in electrical engineering, math, and physics departments. The authors' approach is to develop the subject of probability theory and stochastic processes as a deductive discipline and to illustrate the theory with basic applications of engineering interest. Approximately 1/3 of the text is new material--this material maintains the style and spirit of previous editions. In order to bridge the gap between concepts and applications, a number of additional examples have been added for further clarity, as well as several new topics.

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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Found no substitute for a difficult subject 21 juillet 2013
Par N N Taleb - Publié sur
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
When readers and students ask to me for a useable book for nonmathematicians to get into probability (or a probabilistic approach to statistics), before embarking into deeper problems, I suggest this book by the Late A. Papoulis. I even recommend it to mathematicians as their training often tends to make them spend too much time on limit theorems and very little on the actual "plumbing".
The treatment has no measure theory, cuts to the chase, and can be used as a desk reference. If you want measure theory, go spend some time reading Billingsley. A deep understanding of measure theory is not necessary for scientific and engineering applications; it is not necessary for those who do not want to work on theorems and technical proofs.
I've notice a few complaints in the comments section by people who felt frustrated by the treatment: do not pay attention to them. Ignore them. It the subject itself that is difficult, not this book. The book, in fact, is admirable and comprehensive given the current state of the art.
I am using this book as a benchmark while writing my own, but more advanced, textbook (on errors in use of statistical models). Anything derived and presented in Papoulis, I can skip. And when students ask me what they need as pre-requisite to attend my class or read my book, my answer is: Papoulis if you are a scientist, Varadhan if you are more abstract.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Classic Book on a Very Difficult Topic 11 mars 2014
Par sp - Publié sur
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
I cut my teeth from the 2nd edition of this classic text and later actually went out and bought the 1st edition (1965)
because multiple people that I work with mentioned that later editions were watered down compared to the original edition.
I think a more accurate statement is that more applications chapters were added in later
editions (entropy, queuing theory, etc..) and the first edition is geared more toward laying out the basic underlying theory.
In any case, any engineer or student working in Kalman filtering or communications would be well served by
having a copy of this book at his/her reach. In my opinion there is never any one best book on any topic but this
book is an element of the spanning set of books that should be consulted by engineering students/professionals on this difficult topic. Other classic books that I would
recommend along with Papoulis are

1. Probability and Stochastic Processes for Engineers by Helstrom (written by one of the fathers of modern detection theory)
2. An Introduction to Probability and Stochastic Processes by Melsa and Sage (Dover has recently reprinted this classic)

Although I am not a big fan of newer textbooks the following books are the best of the more recent texts

1. Ibe, "Fundamentals of Applied Probability and Random Processes" (this book is very straightforward and written for the average student; good place to start for the novice)
2. Kay, "Intuitive Probability and Random Processes using MATLAB" (excellent book; best of all modern texts)
3. Dolecek, Random Signals and Processes Primer with MATALB (really brings the subject to used as supplementary reading)
4. Jacobs, "Stochastic Processes for Physicists" (learn the Ito calculus painlessly... Book is also a good intro for engineers despite the title)
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Overwhelmingly complete, difficult to search 24 décembre 2014
Par reviewbot9000 - Publié sur
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
I have studied probability and stochastic processes in undergraduate mathematics, for a brief stint as an actuary and in graduate school for electrical engineering. I found this book to be the most complete, by far, of any of the books I used and I'm sure it will become a valuable reference text. It is not, however, particularly accessible to a student who has never taken a basic course in probability or seen combinatorics/set theory, but this isn't the reason I give it 4 stars.

The reason for 4 stars is that the book contains an overwhelming amount of information but is nearly unsearchable. The index is poorly designed with, for example, some concepts for the normal distribution under normal and other concepts under Gaussian. A little redundancy is sometimes very helpful in the index. In the table of contents, page numbers for the subsections are not stated. This is very difficult when the subsections are not stated at the tops of pages, chapters can be 100 pages long and declarations of the new subsections appear midway down a page in roughly the same font as "Example X" or "Theorem Y". There are also typically 200+ number equations in each chapter. I ultimately had to settle on a system of dog-earing and scratch notes for where to find key concepts.

Another criticism, some of the problems are extremely difficult without identities that are proven in the text. This makes solving the problems less of an exercise in learning math and more an exercise in book skimming. There is a professor out there that put an errata and hints document online that was very helpful.
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3.0 étoiles sur 5 Material Presented in Clear Albeit Unorganized Fashion 3 mars 2014
Par Daniel Greenheck - Publié sur
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
I'm using this book for a a graduate level engineering course on probability theory and random stochastic processes. I took a probability theory course in undergrad and ended up getting a C, so I was very worried about approaching the subject a second time. There's no getting around the fact that the subject area is difficult. However, this book explains the concepts quite well and provides ample examples.

However, the examples also get in the way of the core material. The book is laid out very poorly and there is little organization within the chapters themselves. The delineation between the theory and the examples is not easily apparent, so it often feels like a jumbled mess. Honestly, a better layout with the examples perhaps separated from the core material and I would rate this book 5-stars.

In conclusion, I recommend this book, but the lack of organization means self-study is more of a chore than it should be.
1.0 étoiles sur 5 Doesn't really do anything well. 18 décembre 2015
Par DejaEntendrew - Publié sur
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
This book is not for the uninitiated in random variables. This book serves best as a reference, and even in that endeavor it could be better. It is not a textbook that you read through. It is the most dense text I've read in my engineering studies by a long shot. I find it annoying when an author presents an idea by first working and example, then explaining the concept in words. I don't learn that way, I don't know of anyone who learns that way, but the author does it consistently throughout. There are far too many example problems and there simply is not enough accompanying narrative to make them useful. Also, not enough figures to help demonstrate concepts. Made an A in my course but no thanks to the text.
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