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Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol. 1: REDemption (The New 52) (Anglais) Broché – 13 novembre 2012

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"Just about the perfect book... with solid action sequences, and intriguing plotlines involving high adventure, the New 52 doesn't get better than this."—PopMatters

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No sooner has Batman's former sidekick, Jason Todd, put his past as the Red Hood behind him than he finds himself cornered by a pair of modern day outlaws: Green Arrow's rejected sidekick Arsenal, the damaged soldier of fortune, and the alien Starfire, a former prisoner of intergalactic war who won't be chained again. As a loner, Jason has absolutely no interest in this motley crew of outlaws. So what's he going to do when they choose the Red Hood as their leader?

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Si on m'avait dit que jason todd aurait sa propre série ...
On pourrait croire que seul judd winick puisse bien écrire ce personnage mais c'est faux, scott lobdell réussit l'éssai et approche assez de nouveautés pour que nous en redemandions.
Le "p'tit nouveau" dessinateur de chez dc kenneth rocafort apporte par son style agressif une dynamique qui colle parfaitement.
Quand aux outlaws: starfire et arsenal, ils ont chacun la force, le charme et l'humour pour que cette "équipe" fasse rapidement partie de nos chouchous. Pour les gens outrés par les "moeurs" de starfire sachez qu'à l'origine de sa création en 1982, celle ci avouait déja à l'époque que les relations sexuelles sur sa planete étaient égalent au sport sur là notre. Donc ni voyez pas une fille légére mais juste des coutumes differentes.
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Si vous lisez les commentaires américains, c'est comme les teaser du cinéma, c'est le meilleur comics jamais écrit.
Alors que c'est vraiment nul. Certes des dessins de Kenneth Roccaforte sont sublimes (je pense à découper quelques images pour m'en faire des posters), mais cela ne suffit pas hélas loin de là. J'aurais envie de dire que le scénario est insipide, mais ce serait encore trop surestimé. Le scénario est aux abonnés absents , tout simplement. Aucune histoire, des personnages inexistants, des dialogues bien cool pour des heros bien bad ass mais non Mr Lobdell ça ne fonctionne vraiment pas, en tous cas pas pour des lecteurs un tant soit peu exigeants.
Peut-être la cible est les teenagers, les pre ados qui se contacteront de ces bastons sans queue ni tête. Et encore .
Bref en un mot à éviter !
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Par Balkhar le 18 novembre 2012
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Trés bon comic, les dessins sont de bonne qualité et l'hisoire nous montre ce qui est a arrivé a Jason Todd aprés sa résurrection. Vraiment interressant
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Par Laurent S. le 14 janvier 2013
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Les dessins sont magnifiques et le scénario vraiment original et sympa !
Les 3 persos deviennent vite attachants et j'ai hâte de lire le tome 2.
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HASH(0x98eaf0fc) étoiles sur 5 Jason Todd's New Outlook on Life...and it's Just as Crazy as Before! 13 novembre 2012
Par Anarchy in the US - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
When it came to all of the Bat-family titles in the New 52, I had no intention of looking into them because there were so many, aside from only Scott Snyder's Batman. But I heard that Nightwing had some ties to the Court of Owls story, so I picked up that trade for that reason--and I liked it. Red Hood on the other hand? Well I enjoyed Jason Todd pre-52, but again, I didn't want to delve too much on all the Bat-titles. But I heard a lot of bad things or great things about Red Hood and the Outlaws. So what the heck, I figured I give this a try. And I have to say: this is really fun book.

RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS VOL.1: REDEMPTION collects issues #1-7. Starting with issue 6 (odd that this takes place before issue 1 and is collected here first...) see's Jason Todd, AKA Red Hood, finding himself hurt from a previous adventure. He's healed back to life thanks to Princess Koriand'r, AKA Starfire, and see's her as a compliance for his usage. Jason sets out and recruit Roy Harper, AKA Arsenal, to further his agenda. When an old friend comes to Jason to inform him an ancient enemy named the Untitled, has broken a truce since the dawn of humans with his previous mentor Ducra of the organization known as the All-Caste. Jason is the last member of All-Caste, and see's into avenging Ducra and what she stood for.

Before I go into some of the fun stuff, let me straighten some things out.

First is this: I know of Scott Lobdell's work on Marvel for majority of the 90's, but I never actually read any of his work before until now. I can't go too much into his work, since I don't follow it like others have, but I've heard many negatives for his work on all three DC 52 titles Superboy, Teen Titans, and Red Hood. For Red Hood, it had a lot to do with the new characterization of Starfire. Here is my second insight: I've barely read anything regarding Starfire or the Teen Titans, so I'm not one to judge her. And third: Because the Batman and Green Lantern titles received minor changes of continuity going into the New 52, Red Hood being a Batman title carries on most of those aspects in-tact. Jason was resurrected, Talia trained him, and his vendetta with Joker and Batman still stands.

Okay, now that's cleared up, let's get to it. I found this quite a fun and weaving tale. The characters have a lot of underlining conversations with so much wit; it makes the characters feel complex and relatable.

Lobdell makes the cleaver volume title live up to its name, that being of redemption. Lobdell uses past continuity for Jason still being an anti-hero (or anti-villain) pre-52, in that he still kills when need be and only bad people, has a complex way of the situation...but now adds the story element of training under the All-Caste in continuity, which doesn't disrupt his rich background and further adds to Jason's rich background for future stories. Even further, it's all done in a manner that new readers can identify with and not need prior knowledge of Red Hood. Pretty impressive. And because of the new training organization Jason went through, he's become more complex and less...evil, though that's pushing it. More like less angry with life and how to treat others. I like this new direction for Jason Todd and it makes his resurrection more acceptable with each passing of time.

Starfire and Roy are two characters who get some New 52 changes, both still falling in-line with the theme of redemption. Roy is now a disgraced ex-partner of Oliver Queen (Green Arrow) instead of being an adopted son. Other then that, he's still a wise cracking character, who deep down has a heart of gold. And Starfire, which, again, I lack any real background on, is an alien princess who was raised a slave, and has a seeded hatred for mankind. She has royalty complex about her as well, but finds humans interesting in that they could do good things as well. Add all three character complexes, and you get a pretty darn good story of three outcasts finding more about them together, then they would of apart.

As for art, I have never heard of Kenneth Rocafort until now, but I can tell you this is one artist that is going to be huge sometime down the road in comics. He draws so much detail with his pencils, it's like a cross between Jim Lee and the late Aspin-artist Michael Turner. Absurd amount of detail, rich and crazy panels, splash pages of action, and some sexy (and absurd) depictions of women. This is one artist I want to see more of and it wouldn't surprise me if he becomes a big name in a few years.

As for faults, I have very few. But I can't deny some of the outcry from fans. Again, I can't speak out for Lobdell as a writer (since I haven't read his past work). But one of which, is the depiction of Starfire. She is drawn and portrayed very stereotypical with a level of sexism that could have been toned down, just a tad. I know Lobdell has her background that she is sexually free, but some of the undertones are a little too far. She sleeps with Jason and Roy, but that's not it. Lobdell actually puts the words "Will you have sex with me?" in a comic. I'm a grown adult, so it doesn't bother me. It just isn't something that needs to be said in most non-mature comics. And the following scene afterword literally shows both characters after the sex scene. It could have been said and shown differently for both cases, that's all. And because of Starfire's over zealous nature, I can see why some people were/are up in arms over her portrayal.

But note, her sexual nature (as well as Jason's and Roy's early character depictions) are all toned down later in the book, as well as later issues to come.

Aside from the feedback regarding Lobdell's reputation and Starfire's depiction, I found RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS VOL.1: REDEMPTION to be a pretty darn good series that I'm willing to follow. If you can get past Starfire's depiction, then you'll enjoy the action, great character interaction, and phenomenal artwork for a new outlook on Jason Todd; a character I'm sort of glad came back to life.
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HASH(0x98eaf24c) étoiles sur 5 Nowhere Near as "Bad" as people claimed it to be! 21 novembre 2012
Par Deborah Ramos-Galvan - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
I just got finished reading vol. 1 and I liked it so much, that I am already writing a review for it! And that says A LOT about how GOOD the trade is on it's own! Let me start by saying something almost forbidden, I think Jason Todd might actually be my favorite "Robin" even though he is the Red Hood now. He is just such an interesting piece of the puzzle that is the Bat-Family! Death was just about the best thing that could've happened to Jason Todd and the Bat verse, and this has been proven more than once in Red Hood the Lost days, Hush, and Under the Red Hood (note these stories are listed in chronological order so if you choose to read them, which you definitely should, if you keep them in this order it will help bring fluidity to Jason's timeline)

When Jason Todd comes into Red Hood: Redemption, you see how slowly he is actually starting to heal and little by little he is finding his inner Hero again. He meets up with 2 other "outcasts" (StarFire and Arsenal) and they quickly start to become a surrogate family for Jason. The story is both very fun and fluid. There is plenty of action, just enough mystery, and even a little dash of mysticism, to keep you invested in the story all the way until the end. When the end comes, you will most likely want more!!

Honestly I don't understand why people were trying to Give Red Hood and the Outlaws so much hatred to begin with. StarFire might be a little "loose" and "sexually liberated" but she is nowhere near as much of a "Bimbo" or a "Sex Doll" as fans were claiming. She still has her slave history in tact, and her "memory loss" doesn't actually indicate a lack of intelligence. It is stated that the way she processes memories is just more advanced than a normal humans' and she has the ability to truly Lock away those pesky memories that sometimes like to keep us awake at night. I also highly doubt that she "forgets" much of anything. You see hints of this dropped in her inner monologues and conversations with her team mates. You really don't even see any sex. It is just before and after panels. StarFire still kicks a lot of butt and Loves her friends, so minus the "new 52" chip on her shoulder and her slight resentment of humans for reasons not completely known for the time being, I don't think she has changed all that much as a character. I think her "we only live once" attitude actually makes her a much more firey and interesting character. In fact I actually quite enjoyed StarFire's potrayal, and trust me she is anything but "Passive" or "Submissive." Sure her outfit is Skanky, but what female Superhero's outfit actually looks like it fits her right? Arsenal was kind of meh as a character for me, but it isn't because he is unlikable at all. His jokes are pretty good and Every Downer (Jason Todd) Needs it's upper (Arsenal)and he definitely makes for some good comic relief, personally I am just rarely interested in the resident comedian.

Overall this story deserves 4.5/5 stars, but the reason it got dropped a point is because I see a lot of potential in this book and I believe it can actually get much better than it already is. This is one of the few Bat Titles that really leaves a lot of open space for character and story development. And I believe that the Red Hood is a vital member to the Bat-family after all because one day they are gonna need someone to play even further outside of their rules and take out the trash. Perhaps one day he will save a fellow Bat-Brother's life by killing an antagonist who almost managed to off one of the "batties." And it will be very interesting to see how the Bat-family reacts to this. Quite simply I Loved it and Believe it is a must read if you are into the bat comics.
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HASH(0x98eaf1bc) étoiles sur 5 Outlaw or Outlandish 14 octobre 2013
Par Skyler Sneathen - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché Achat vérifié
I remember Scott Lobdell from his X-Men days, you know when the X-Men was the comic everyone wanted to write, draw and or read! Lobdell definitely contributed to that. Hear he contributes very little. Now first off I love the notion of a Red Hood comic, does he need the supporting cast? Probably no, but I'll welcome them. It's nice to have new teams, but Outlaws? I am not sure about that either. They are hardly Outlaws and more or less Red Hood's buddies helping him on some personal mission, while being side lined by other sub plots. Meanwhile, Starfire is a complete lack for a better word - whore. She sleeps with Jason off the pages, then on the pages she bluntly asks if Speedy wants to have sex. He's all for but doesn't want to offend his boy Jason. Starfire's response - who cares, she can sleep with whomever she wants, whenever she wants and wherever she wants. Never mind she has little attention span into the guys' lives and the guys find this hilarious. She's the perfect woman, right? NO! Yes, she looks amazing but I think the artist had too much fun drawing her. In addition, Todd's helmet has lips.... why?
The art is great, so much detail and the book has great humor I'll give it that. But again Outlaws? When part of the story takes place in the Middle East I thought great they'd get in trouble and rouse things up for the U.S. State Department or something. If anything Vol. 1 was more of a origin in a sense of the team. They do all get to know each other (quite well - I'm just awaiting that threesome now thanks to Starfire's subtlety) but couldn't it be done in half of the novel? I want seem BREAK THE LAW!
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HASH(0x98eaf318) étoiles sur 5 Decent Story, Good to See Todd Again! 10 janvier 2013
Par Critic's Corner - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Format Kindle Achat vérifié
I admit I'm not that familiar with The Outlaws. I did enjoy the Red Hood, aka Jason Todd, from Lob's book "Hush", but Hood is leaner and meaner in this one.

Anyone who reads reviews knows the basic idea that Jason teams up with Roy, formerly known as Arsenal, and Starfire, where all humans look alike to her and she's pretty free with the sex card.

Several of the scenes are clearly sexist, such as Starfire in various states of nudity, which is OK for a red-blooded American male like me, but that's not what I wanted from this book. I wanted some adventure, and did discover some.

I liked how Jason was trained by the All-Caste, they get betrayed and Jason feels the need for revenge and drags his friends into it. We also have an assassin named The Essence, who was once an "item" for Jason and now wants to wipe him out.

Themes of vengeance run throughout the book: a man who becomes alien to get his revenge where a spaceship accidentally crashed into his car one day (yeah, it happens). Or when the All-Caste get wiped out (after a few millennia you'd think they'd guard themselves better) and Jason wants his revenge.

Touching scenes as Jason recalls his time with the Bat and contemplates the Joker, though these items distract from the main theme.

Pros: Good art, almost "Image" like in its portrayal of the women of the book.

Cons: Too much gabbing, not enough action.
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HASH(0x98eaf348) étoiles sur 5 The New 52 at its best 27 avril 2014
Par Manny R - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
Scott Lobdell has done a fantastic job with this book. At first, I felt skeptical because I wanted to read an interesting book on Jason Todd, or Red Hood. I felt like Starfire and Arsenal would just ruin the plot and the way Jason usually handles things. Boy was I wrong. The story has major character development as the three learn to cope with each other and it's very interesting. Each character themselves are interesting in their own way. Arsenal is a major smart a$$ and his dialogue is clever and funny. Starfire is cool and nonchalant, but she's very powerful when her anger gets to her and the resulting battles are fun to read. Jason is the main character of course and he is still looking through his past trying to find a way through life.
The story is very interesting for anyone trying to read comics. Scott Lobdell has done a phenomenal job with the story writing and Kenneth Rocafort's artwork is by far some of my favorite (next to Greg Capullo and Chris Burnham). This book is around $8 and is one I will definitely love having in my collection
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