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Rich Versus Roach CD, Import

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  • CD (1 juillet 1991)
  • Nombre de disques: 1
  • Format : CD, Import
  • Label: Mis
  • ASIN : B0000046Y8
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Disque : 1

  1. Sing, Sing, Sing (Previously Unissued, Alternate Take)
  2. Sing, Sing, Sing
  3. The Casbah
  4. The Casbah
  5. Sleep
  6. Figure Eights
  7. Yesterdays
  8. Big Foot
  9. Big Foot (Previously Unissued, Alternate Take)
  10. Limehouse Blues
  11. Limehouse Blues (Previously Unissued, Alternate Take)
  12. Toot, Toot, Tootsie Goodbye

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Buddy Rich s'est retrouvé plusieurs fois confrontés à d'autres batteurs: les drum battles les plus connues sont celles avec Gene Krupa... Mais il y en eu aussi avec Art Blakey (très difficile à trouver, en LP uniquement), avec Louis Bellson (LP uniquement aussi) et ici avec le Maître du be-bop, Max Roach. C'est l'une des battle les plus intéressantes qui soit. Les deux batteurs ont deux styles très marqués et pourtant complémentaires. Tempos rapides, jeu de balais, mailloches, échange de 4/4, solos, un déluge de musicalité et virtuosité!! Indispensable pour tout batteur!
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HASH(0x8a52f888) étoiles sur 5 The drum lover's dream come true! 15 mai 2005
Par John Carfizzi - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
The late Don DeMicheal (one of jazz music's foremost writers, and a fine drummer as well) once wrote about this session calling it the "drum lover's dream come true". DeMicheal went on to say that the two drummers are heard "throwing ideas back and forth as if engaged in a mad, joyous tennis match. And how they inspire each other". It is certainly a great tribute to the commanding artistry of both Mr. Rich and Mr. Roach, that here we are several decades after this remarkable session was recorded and the album is still the subject of a much heated debate among jazz fans, drummers, as well as students of jazz (as can be witnessed in many of the reviews found here), with many praising the drummer who is their favorite and (very sadly) putting down the drummer who is not their favorite. The truth is that BOTH Mr. Roach AND Mr. Rich deserve to be called CHAMPIONS! Both have given so much to jazz! Yes indeed they both have totally different and diverse styles, but isn't having different and diverse styles what makes jazz music such a great and unique art form? For those of you who are interested in reading a SERIOUS analysis of this recording (and not just the childish remarks of "my favorite is better than your favorite"), I suggest that you go to your nearest research library and locate a copy of the March 24, 1966 issue of DOWN BEAT. It contains a very interesting, notated analysis of two of the tracks from this great recording (completely transcribed) by drum authority and percussion composer Rupert Kettle. (For those who are unfamiliar with him, Mr. Kettle has written many articles for many publications, such as SOUNDS & FURY, MODERN DRUMMER, as well as DOWN BEAT, analyzing in detail the styles of many of the great jazz drummers, including Elvin Jones and Louis Bellson). As Mr. Kettle points out in the article (on page 19) "The 1959 Mercury album presents the playing of possibly the finest representatives of their respective approaches and at the same time presents both men as mature musicians, at the height of their creative and technical powers". I feel that jazz fans and drummers on both sides of this debate would do well to read this article. Mr. Kettle enjoys, understands and appreciates the playing of both Mr. Rich and Mr. Roach, as do I. So to the people on both sides of this debate, I say, take the time to find this article, it will help you to understand the playing of BOTH of these drumming greats much better than reading most of the childish comments that I am again sorry to say have been posted here. I will sum up this remarkable album by again quoting Mr. DeMicheal when he wrote that "the winner is the listener".
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HASH(0x8a52f8dc) étoiles sur 5 Rich in one ear and Roach in the other equals MAGIC 21 octobre 2002
Par Kevin Nieman - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
I have always been fascinated by the tribal lure of the drum, and Buddy Rich has always been the pre-eminent drum virtuoso of all time, in my opinion.
Yes, there are those who dislike Rich's bombastic playing as opposed to Max Roach's more calm and intellectual approach to his instrument. I cannot argue with that other than to say that this CD is a perfect example of both men's styles. Rich pounds the drums like a madman, and Roach plays them like a lover. Rich exhudes flash and fireworks, and Roach embraces subtlety and a carefully placed silence. Both men hammer out their styles like professionals, and some may say that it comes out as a draw.
Whatever your personal taste is regarding these two drum masters, this is a CD that drum fans and jazz fans can enjoy for generations to come. The debate over who was the better drummer will never be solved, but at least we can hear these two jazz giants battle it out, knowing that they were loving every minute of it.
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HASH(0x8a52fd14) étoiles sur 5 Hardcore Drum Porn 8 août 1998
Par Un client - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
This is an album for drummers and extreme drum lovers only, who would likely give this record five stars. All others would be advised to consider Buddy's work with Dizzy Gillespie for jazz music which is better rounded. Max's fans should seek out Sonny Rollins' 1958 classic Saxaphone Collossus. "Figure Eights" is a drums-only track which showcases Buddy's blinding speed an Max's resourcefulness on the toms. The artists play no-frills, four piece set ups, so what you get is a 64 minute blast of drum set virtuosity without any gimmicks. Recorded in the 50's, both artists are at the top of their form. So who wins this drum battle? Buddy's the better technician, but Max is the better musician.
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HASH(0x8a8c90e4) étoiles sur 5 Showcase of two great drummers 4 décembre 2004
Par Victoria Tarrani - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
This CD has a superb selection of music performed by the entire ensemble. Each selection allows two great drummers with widely contrasting styles to exhibit their own interpretations of the music. To that end it is not only music to enjoy, but an opportunity for drummers of all genres to hear more than one way to approach music. It is also filled with technique, regardless of musical style or preferred genre.

One thing to note is in any CD (or video) of "drum battles" between the older legends, such as Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Gene Kruppa, etc., the drummers are not competing with each other as much as showcasing. That generation of drummers each had an established niche based on their styles and approach to drums, and in interview after interview with the likes of Rich, Kruppa and others they were always complementary towards and respectful of other drummers.

What I especially like about this CD is it provides a rare glimpse into Roach's playing in a number of sets designed to showcase his drumming. I never tire of listening to Buddy's amazing speed and rhythm, but I cannot get enough of Roach and only wish there were more recordings (audio and video) that focused on his drumming.

If you're a drummer you have a rare opportunity to listen to two great drummers approach music from two widely diverse directions with consumate skill and flawless playing. If you are not a drummer, this CD is still valuable because the music is great and to be savored.
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HASH(0x8a8c91e0) étoiles sur 5 Don't count Out Gigi!! 27 janvier 2002
Par Il Dottore - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
I don't agree with the consensus that there isn't good music here. True, drums are dead-center in this set. But Gigi Gryce arranged all the music and it is all beautiful. Listen to Phil Woods backed by Rich go up against S. turrentine backed by Roach and tell me that this isn't exciting music. Moreover, the drums engage in fascinating dialogue more than straght out competition. Liston to sing sing sing, a beautifully full and rich statement of the theme frames two extended solos, first Rich's break neck snare work and then Max's more thoughtful and complex rythms (his use of silence and space is striking in relation to Rich's relentless roles). Ultimately Roach makes Rich looks a bit simplistic and outdated, but Rich's speed keeps him in the running, and throughout the music they swing away. I'm not a drummer and i give it 5 stars as a great overlooked classic.
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