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  • CD (30 novembre 1999)
  • Nombre de disques: 1
  • Format : Import
  • Label: Mis
  • ASIN : B00002MXN2
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Disque : 1

  1. Piano Quintet In A Major, D667 'The Trout': I Allegro vivace
  2. Piano Quintet In A Major, D667 'The Trout': II. Andante
  3. Piano Quintet In A Major, D667 'The Trout': III Scherzo: Presto
  4. Piano Quintet In A Major, D667 'The Trout': IV Theme & Variations: Andantino
  5. Piano Quintet In A Major, D667 'The Trout': V Finale: Allegro giusto
  6. String Quartet In D Minor, D810 'Death And The Maiden': I Allegro
  7. String Quartet In D Minor, D810 'Death And The Maiden': II Andante con moto
  8. String Quartet In D Minor, D810 'Death And The Maiden': III Scherzo: Allegro molto
  9. String Quartet In D Minor, D810 'Death And The Maiden': IV Rondo-Finale: Presto

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HASH(0x96e90480) étoiles sur 5 Great Chamber music from Vienna 10 mai 2007
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Here are two classic accounts from the 1950s and 1960s of chamber works by Franz Schubert. Members of Willi Boskovsky's original Vienna Octet are partnered by the great English pianist, Clifford Curzon, in the famous 1958 "Trout" Quintet recording, a stereo remake of their earlier version with Walter Panhoffer; while the Vienna Philharmonic Quartet (led by Boskovsky) provides a highly compelling reading of the D minor "Death and the Maiden" quartet. In both works the Viennese players set a standard of chamber music playing with which other ensembles simply cannot compare. It is to do with their rhythm, articulation and sense of phrasing, all of which are uniquely Viennese. These recordings were highly celebrated in their day and remain as classics of the recorded chamber repertoire. Excellent sound by Decca in both recordings.
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HASH(0x96e90540) étoiles sur 5 a "trout" without much spice and a "Maiden's" quartet without "Death" 17 août 2006
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Format: CD
Though Amazon's information is scanty, this appears to be a cheap reissue of Decca 417 459-2, first issued on CD in 1988, which pairs two famed recordings: the "Trout" quintet by Clifford Curzon and members of the Wiener Oktett around 1st fiddler Willi Boskovksy from 1957, and the "Death and the Maiden" quartet issued in 1963 by the Wiener Philharmonisches Quartett, coupled then with Schubert's 10th quartet. Both ensemble stemmed from the Vienna Philharmonic and shared Willi Boskovsky as their 1st fiddler. See my review of the original Polygram CD issue for detailed commments (Schubert: Trout Quintet; Death and the Maiden).

These two recordings have enjoyed almost universal critics' approval since their first publication - and I don't agree. The quintet has good moments - its fourth movement, with its famous "Trout" theme and variations, is one of them, thanks to the lively tempo and carefree mood adopted by the musicians - but it lacks the kind of muscle and strong accentuation Serkin and Marlboro friends brought to it in 1967 (Schubert: Piano Quintet "Trout"; Mozart: Clarinet Quintet), or more recently partners gathered around Emmanuel Ax and Yo-Yo Ma (Schubert: Quintet, Op. 114 "The Trout" / Sonata, D. 821 "Arpeggione") or Thomas Adès and members of the Belcea Quartet (Adès: Piano Quintet; Schubert: "Trout Quintet"). I refer you to my reviews of all these. 1st fiddler Willi Boskovsky easily wails and the mood is generally plaintive. If I may dare the image, at the hands of Curzon and the Vienna Octet it is more "the boys wooing girl" than "the boys setting out for a merry brawl".

Likewise the quartet has lots of "Maiden" but not much "Death", and the Wiener Philharmonishes Quartett is obviously more attuned to the piece's charm than to its gripping tension. Maybe that's what they call "viennese tradition", and it may have (or have had) its adepts - but if so it is the Vienna that neglected and misunderstood Schubert during his (all too short) lifetime.

There are better options for that specific coupling - although none that I have heard is entirely convincing. See my reviews for Gilels-Amadeus Quartet (Schubert: Trout Quintet, Death and the Maiden / Amadeus Quartet), Dame Moura Limpany and Gabrieli Quartet (Trout Quintet/Death & The Maiden), Frank Glazer-Fine Arts Quartet (Schubert: Trout Quintet/Death and the Maiden Quartet).

P.S. : judging from the numerous "unhelpful" votes I am getting on this one, this negative review seems to ruffle the feathers of the congregation of admirers of the Vienna Octet. Rather than just anonymous votes I'd like to read serious counter-arguments. Am I hearing wrong when I hear a gentle approach strong on charm but short on tension? Or am I "wrong" in my expectations of how Schubert's compositions should be understood and approached, and in thinking that there is more beef and dramatic tension in them that the Vienna Octet provides? But if so, I'm in the company of many performers, before or since. Anyway, I thought I was indeed expressing a very consensual and balanced review, in effect saying that if you want a gentle approach to Schubert's "Death and the Maiden", if you think that the piece is more about "the maiden" than about "Death", and likewise that "The Trout" is more about "boy woos girl" than about "the boys go out on a merry fishing outskirt", then this version is for you. But if, like me, you think Schubert's 14th is about "snarling death coming at the Maiden and the Maiden screaming and begging and struggling", if you think it is a piece of gripping tension, and "the Trout" a carefree, muscular, rambunctious party, you won't really find it here. Is it "unhelpful" to say so?
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