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Les Symphonies

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Page Artiste Sir Georg Solti


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  • Interprète: Georg Solti, Multi-Artistes
  • Orchestre: Chicago Symphony Orchestra
  • Chef d'orchestre: Georg Solti
  • Compositeur: Ludwig Beethoven, Not Applicable
  • CD (13 juillet 2011)
  • Nombre de disques: 7
  • Label: Decca
  • ASIN : B000T9QF8S
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Disque : 1

  1. Symphonie n 1 op 21 en ut majeur - 1. adagio molto - allegro con brio
  2. Symphonie n 1 op 21 en ut majeur - 2. andante cantabile con moto
  3. Symphonie n 1 op 21 en ut majeur - 3. menuetto (allegro molto e vivace)
  4. Symphonie n 1 op 21 en ut majeur - 4. finale (adagio - allegro molto e vivace)
  5. Symphonie n 2 op 36 en re majeur - 1. adagio molto - allegro con brio
  6. Symphonie n 2 op 36 en re majeur - 2. larghetto
  7. Symphonie n 2 op 36 en re majeur - 3. scherzo (allegro)
  8. Symphonie n 2 op 36 en re majeur - 4. allegro molto

Disque : 2

  1. Symphonie n 3 op 55 heroique en mi bemol majeur - 1. allegro con brio
  2. Symphonie n 3 op 55 heroique en mi bemol majeur - 2. marcia funebre (adagio assai)
  3. Symphonie n 3 op 55 heroique en mi bemol majeur - 3. scherzo (allegro vivace)
  4. Symphonie n 3 op 55 heroique en mi bemol majeur - 4. finale (allegro molto)
  5. - overture "egmont", op.84
  6. - overture "coriolan", op.62
  7. - overture "egmont", op. 84

Disque : 3

  1. Symphonie n 4 op 60 en si bemol majeur - 1. adagio - allegro vivace
  2. Symphonie n 4 op 60 en si bemol majeur - 2. adagio
  3. Symphonie n 4 op 60 en si bemol majeur - 3. allegro vivace
  4. Symphonie n 4 op 60 en si bemol majeur - 4. allegro ma non troppo
  5. Symphonie n 5 op 67 en ut mineur - 1. allegro con brio
  6. Symphonie n 5 op 67 en ut mineur - 2. andante con moto
  7. Symphonie n 5 op 67 en ut mineur - 3. allegro
  8. Symphonie n 5 op 67 en ut mineur - 4. allegro

Disque : 4

  1. Symphonie n 6 op 68 pastorale en fa majeur - 1. erwachen heiterer empfindungen bei der ankunft auf dem lande: allegro ma non troppo
  2. Symphonie n 6 op 68 pastorale en fa majeur - 2. szene am bach: (andante molto mosso)
  3. Symphonie n 6 op 68 pastorale en fa majeur - 3. lustiges zusammensein der landleute (allegro)
  4. Symphonie n 6 op 68 pastorale en fa majeur - 4. gewitter, sturm (allegro)
  5. Symphonie n 6 op 68 pastorale en fa majeur - 5. hirtengesang. frohe und dankbare gefühle nach dem sturm: allegretto
  6. - overture "leonore no.3", op.72b

Disque : 5

  1. Symphonie n 7 op 92 en la majeur - 1. poco sostenuto - vivace
  2. Symphonie n 7 op 92 en la majeur - 2. allegretto
  3. Symphonie n 7 op 92 en la majeur - 3. presto - assai meno presto
  4. Symphonie n 7 op 92 en la majeur - 4. allegro con brio
  5. Symphonie n 8 op 93 en fa majeur - 1. allegro vivace e con brio
  6. Symphonie n 8 op 93 en fa majeur - 2. allegretto scherzando
  7. Symphonie n 8 op 93 en fa majeur - 3. tempo di menuetto
  8. Symphonie n 8 op 93 en fa majeur - 4. allegro vivace

Disque : 6

  1. Symphonie n 9 op 125 chorale en re mineur - 1. allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso
  2. Symphonie n 9 op 125 chorale en re mineur - 2. molto vivace
  3. Symphonie n 9 op 125 chorale en re mineur - 3. adagio molto e cantabile
  4. Symphonie n 9 op 125 chorale en re mineur - 4. presto - allegro assai

Disque : 7

  1. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - how long had you been conducting beethoven symphonies?
  2. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - which of the great beethoven conductors of your youth...
  3. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - did you have to teach the chicago symphony...
  4. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - now the eroica
  5. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - I wanted to ask you a question...
  6. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - the seventh symphony...are there special problems...
  7. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - now the eighth...
  8. Sir georg solti in conversation with william mann - the ninth is obviously...

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SOLTI GEORG / CHICAGO S. O.

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cet enregistrement (...) est en réalité une réédition des années 1970.
l'orchestre de CHICAGO joue magnifiquement et la prise de son DECCA est superbe (de + l'enregistrement est remastérisé).
les options de SOLTI en matière de tempo sont discutables,cela faisant parfois dans le solennel dans certains mouvements.
Dans sa 2° version (1990) le chef révisera certains de ses tempi qui seront plus dynamiques.
Donc : selon ses goûts opter pour la 1° ou la 2° version.
ASTUCE pour les reconnaitre:1° version ,avec Martti TALVELA (box clair)/ 2°version avec Hans HOTIN (box foncé)
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Le Beethoven de Solti est puissant, bien joué, les timbres de l'orchestre de Chicago sont remarquables, la prise de son est très bonne ! L'ensemble constitue un beau coffret, pour peu que l'on adhère à la vision du chef : le Beethoven de Solti, ample et souvent lent, manque parfois de souffle épique et de folie. C'est très beau, donc, mais ce n'est pas un Beethoven héroïque qui nous est proposé.
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Ca faisait longtemps que je cherchait Solti pour beethoven en souvenir de mes vinyles totalement usés.... Même si ce ne sont pas tout le temps des originaux des années 80 il y a de très belles choses et la patte Solti bien plus agréable que d'autres interprètes
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Ok le son . a part ça ? .....ben rien . Monumental , turbo propulsé ou ennuyeux à souhait , la preuve qu 'un haut niveau de technicité n 'est pas garant d ' un bon résultat . Certains aimerons . Moi pas . Un manque d 'ame patent . je retourne a Furtwängler , Walter , Toscanini .
Certainement le plus grand ratage du maestro que j 'admire tant a l 'opéra .
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4.0 étoiles sur 5 Solti's "Via Media" Approach to Beethoven is Worth Hearing 12 novembre 2007
Par Johannes Climacus - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Of Sir Georg Solti's two Beethoven cycles with the CSO, I generally prefer the first, reissued here in a newly remastered edition commemorating the tenth anniversary of Solti's death. By the early 1970's, when these recordings were made, Solti had moderated his volatile temperament sufficiently to be able to project the lofty qualities in Beethoven's music. The slow movements are far more reflective than one might have expected from this conductor. The one in the Ninth Symphony, for instance, conveys a sense of rapt solemnity that recalls Furtwängler at his best (though with superior sound, of course, and more alert playing than the latter achieved in his famous live Bayreuth performance, reissued on EMI). In general Solti combines Furtwänglerian weight with Toscaninian dynamism--an approach to Beethoven which will strike some listeners as "the best of both worlds" and others as an uneasy compromise. I vacillate between these two opinions, sometimes within the compass of a single symphony. For example, I found the first movement of the *Eroica* far too slow and ponderous, while the Funeral March struck me as one of the most gripping I have ever heard. The best performances in the set are 2, 4, 6, 7, and 9. The Seventh, in particular, is quite thrilling--the combination of weight and dynamism works especially well in this symphony; the dancelike aspects of the music are not compromised by the fundamental seriousness of Solti's conception. The Ninth, too, is splendid, with (as indicated above) a sublime traversal of the slow movement and a stirring, beautifully sung finale. The Second must rank with Bernstein/DG as one of the most vibrant accounts ever recorded. The "Pastoral" is more genial than one would have expected from Solti, but one misses the authentic Austrian lilt of Böhm, or the rich lyricism of Walter. On the other hand, I appreciate the rhythmic vitality Solti brings to a work which, in lesser performances, can seem too languid by half. I also enjoyed the spectacular horn playing in the Peasant's Merrymaking and subsequent Storm episode. The First receives some admirably crisp playing, at snappy tempos, though in the end I find Solti's approach too portentous for a work which clearly harks back to Haydn. The Eighth could use an infusion of Beethovenian "unbuttoned" humor, but is otherwise appropriately incisive and well played.

Overall, I enjoyed these performances more than I expected to, and in the case of the Second, Seventh and Ninth thought that Solti achieved something like greatness. His later, digital cycle seems altogether at lower voltage, while his earliest versions of 3, 5 and 7 with the VPO (recently reissued by Decca) are too frenetic. The first CSO Beethoven cycle is the one to have, then, if you're interested in hearing Solti's distinctive *via media* in Beethoven. The playing of the CSO is glorious throughout and though the sonics are more variable than we would expect from Decca/London (largely due to the vicissitudes of the recording venues, especially the notoriously difficult acoustic of the Medinah Temple in Chicago), the sound is never less than acceptable and frequently excellent.

Though I would not rank this set alongside Karajan's justly famous 1963 cycle, or the recently reissued Bernstein/Vienna (DG), I can imagine listeners who want to hear a great American orchestra in this repertoire finding Solti/CSO more than satisfactory.

NOTE: While I still endorse my estimation of this set, I have been recently re-assessing Solti's later, digital, Beethoven cycle, whose merits I tended to overlook when I wrote the review of his earlier Chicago cycle a few years ago. After some careful comparative listening, I have recently come to a favorable view of the later cycle, which now strikes me as, overall, more thoughtful, nuanced and affectionate than the older recordings. The sound also superior--less clinical, warmer, though not necessarily better focused. Though my opinions are still in flux, given that these two sets are now virtually in the same price range (consult sellers on this Website), I might tilt toward the later one (if it's just a question of comparing Solti with Solti--for a general recommendation I would still favor Karajan/1962 or 1977, Bernstein/Vienna (DG) or possibly Szell/Cleveland). The earlier Ninth has greater cogency than the later, while the later Seventh is considerably more refined in conception and execution. Neither Eroica is particularly outstanding (Solti and the CSO sound too portentous here), though the earlier one is better played, and the later one marginally better shaped. Neither is as exciting or volatile as the conductor's 1958 account with the VPO (nla, but once available in a two-CD bargain issue from Decca). When it comes to the First, Second and Eighth, I definitely prefer the digital accounts, which, though less viscerally exciting, are altogether more elegant and carefully crafted. Both eighths are rather too serious for such a light-hearted score, but the digital one sings more lyrically where it needs to. Right now I incline toward the later Fifth as well; it conveys greater majesty, if rather less urgency. Concerning the fourth and sixth I currently incline toward the later versions, again because of a greater warmth and elegance, though the earlier Sixth was arguably fresher. I hope this addendum doesn't confuse the issue for prospective listeners, but I thought I had to weigh in with my most recent thoughts on Solti's Beethoven.
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Strongly recommend this box set of Beethoven's Symphonies 14 novembre 2013
Par Cynthia Hwang - Publié sur Amazon.com
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The performance of Beethoven's Symphonies by Georg Solti is simply beautiful and irresistible! I strongly recommend this box set of Beethoven Symphonies to Beethoven's music lovers.
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1.0 étoiles sur 5 DECCA IS LYING! There has been no remastering! Nothing but false advertising! 3 mars 2008
Par dv_forever - Publié sur Amazon.com
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In honor of the 10th anniversary of Solti's death, the company for which he recorded for decades decides to do something special for him. They re-release his Chicago Beethoven cycle from the 1970s. It is a strong, traditional cycle but not as perceptive as many were in that day, primarily the great Karajan.

I've always liked the 9th by Solti in this cycle, obviously modeled on Furtwangler but without the spiritual rapture of that conductor. I already owned this Solti set in an earlier incarnation and now it's advertised as being remastered with newly improved sound! Yeah, great!

So I buy it since I'm an audiophile always of search of perfection and what do I hear when I compare this "remastering" to the prior release which has been around for nearly two decades? Absolutely no difference whatsoever. Trust me on this, I have a great ear for this kind of thing. I listen on headphones in great detail. The sound is absolutely the same.

Looking through the liner notes, there is no mention of a date for the new remastering, there is no mention of a new technological method used, like 24-bit for instance. There is nothing. It is the same release, dressed up and slapped with a cover sticker on it that says "newly remastered with improved sound". BALONEY!

If you're never owned this cycle before and want to hear Solti in Beethoven, this boxed set is your ticket. These are good, not great performances, except for the 9th which is very, very good. The sound was always fine but I purchased this with the expectation that it would be improved because there is plenty of room for improvement. The people at Decca are liars and false advertisers. This product gets one star as a consumer warning. As for the performances, it's a three star cycle.

P.S. An extra CD in the box has Solti in a 50 minute interview about the symphonies. It's worth listening to once, not worth the purchase price of this unremastered cycle. Go to hell, DECCA!
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5.0 étoiles sur 5 Solti's Nine Unsung Heroes 20 mars 2012
Par Ryan Kernaghan - Publié sur Amazon.com
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Beethoven Symphonies 1 - 9. Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chorus. With Pilar Lorengar, Stuart Burrows, Yvonne Minton and Martti Talvela. Recorded 1972 to 1975. Decca/London.

There is something delightful to be found in almost every corner of Sir Georg Solti's first cycle with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. I find it bizarre that this cycle never seems to get the rave reviews it deserves. I, for one, would rate it as the best. Individually, his interpretations may not suit all tastes for various reasons (personally, his Fifth does not attain the incredible heights it can). Overall, however, there is a vitality to these performances that is most rewarding. I found every single performance in some way revelatory. Part of this is Solti's gift for bringing out orchestral detail as well as his passion and genuine feeling for dynamics. Overall, this remains the most satisfying cycle I have yet acquired (in comparison with Bernstein's 1960s cycle, Karajan's 1960s and 1970s cycles, the Norrington and Harnoncourt cycles).

Here is my response to each interpretation:

Nos. 1 and 2: This is a buoyant and totally endearing recording of the First Symphony. The rhythms sparkle and the percussion is bouncy. Both 1 and 2 in this cycle are handled with nice playing and tempos that are just right.

No. 3: This remains my favourite interpretation amongst a strong list of contenders. Solti's tempi may surprise some - they are not fierce, but impassioned. The orchestra seem to love every moment of this wonderful symphony and every movement seems just about right. What is uniform throughout is a strong sense of mystery and power, with strongly articulated timpani and especially magnificent playing from the brass and strings. The scherzo is the best rendering I have heard of this particular movement, especially because it has a genuine scherzo feeling, rather than a glossed over, grandiose one. Best of all is a rapturous and deeply committed rendering of that magnificent adagio.

No. 4: The cycle moves along to yet another surprising and continuously captivating interpretation. In particular, the second movement in this Fourth is beautiful, quite enchanting. As with the other recordings in this cycle, the orchestra continue to be buoyant and full of life. One of the best Fourths.

No. 5: Solti's Fifth has strong contrasts and some of his ideas are excellent. Overall though, it just doesn't come off like some other strong individual interpretations. But the concept of the playing (especially in the percussion and brass) is very strong.

No. 6: This is a lovely and strong account of the Pastoral. It is quite lively and the tempi match it - the merriment of the symphony is very much underlined. Still, the storm sequence is powerful too (although that piccolo could be more pronounced amidst the clamour of the thunder).

No. 7: This is one of the highlights of a consistently enjoyable cycle. Solti, as with the other symphonies, brings out so many orchestral colours in this score and the results are very enjoyable. Tempi are generally broad, surprisingly so in the finale. Whilst this recording doesn't quite have the taut and knife-edged drama with sharp contrasting joy (a symphony of light and shade if ever there was one), it still ranks as one of the best for its exploitation of various orchestral colours. As with the rest of the cycle, Solti excels as a master of orchestral detail and it is often surprising to hear instruments stand out in parts which are at other times glossed over.

No. 8: This is a fairly delightful account and Solti observes the dynamic contrasts astutely.

No. 9: If it wasn't for Furtwangler's incredible 1951 Bayreuth recording, which is a transcendent listening experience, this would rank as my absolute favourite interpretation of the Ninth. This is an overwhelming, deeply felt performance with high energy and genuine pathos. Every movement is laid out with extraordinary care and the tempi are rarely rushed. The recording tends to be in the Furtwangler camp as a whole, the drama of the piece is almost bursting out of the speakers. It makes an immediate contrast with such interpretations as Karajan's 1963, which sounds tame and overly refined by comparison. Best of all, the quartet of soloists is gorgeous and very well balanced in the recording (no one is blocked out and Lorengar, Burrowes, Minton, Talvela are all heard to maximum effect). The Chicago Chorus, Orchestra, the soloists and Solti all triumph here, giving their all in a glorious, heartfelt performance. Highly recommended.

Overall, this cycle is truly the most consistent I have yet found. Solti has clearly thought out each and every symphony in great detail and there is so much to enjoy throughout. Even though individual performances are eclipsed in other cycles, the overall quality of these recordings is unsurpassed.

I should add that this set includes some of Beethoven's greatest overtures as well (Egmont, Leonore III and Coriolan). Each of them receives a magnificent performance, very much in the line of the symphonic recordings - both intense and vital.
5.0 étoiles sur 5 Re-release of superb 1975 ADD set. 8 juin 2017
Par James - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This is my favorite Beethoven set. Solti. Chicago. 1975. Another reviewer gave it one star because it is not remastered as advertised. I am GLAD it is not. This the same set as the set with the famous Beethoven portrait. But that set is not available except in used or perhaps incomplete sets. I ordered the original set last year and only got symphonies 2 3 5 6 8. 1 4 7 9 were missing. So I welcome this new re-release and repeat that I am HAPPY it has NOT been remastered!
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