Tissot Homme Montre T0674171104100 Acier Inoxydablebrassard Quartz
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|Numéro du modèle||T0674171104100|
|Numéro de pièce||T0674171104100|
|Type de Verre||synthétique saphir|
|Diamètre du boîtier||42 millimètres|
|Epaisseur du boîtier||12 millimètres|
|Matière du bracelet||Acier Inoxydable|
|Longueur du bracelet||homme standard|
|Largeur du bracelet||19 millimètres|
|Couleur du bracelet||Argent|
|Couleur du cadran||Bleu|
|Type de Mouvement||Quartz|
|Type de Garantie||Fabricant et revendeur|
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Je m'étais offert cette montre pour me marquer mon 1/2 siècle, mes cinquante ans, cela devais rester un objet commémoratif du souvenir et j'ai eu la surprenante déception de recevoir une montre avec le fond de cadrants plus bleu foncé et les trois petits cercles chrono etc etc de couleur grise métalisé......!!!
Cela reste néanmoins de la super qualité, c'est du TISSOT, avec emballage et présentation ainsi que documentation TOP CLASSE......!!!!
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Candidly, there's lots of better swiss watches then this. Since Omega and Tissot are owned by the same parent company, Tissot is viewed in the 'mid tier' of it's own line-up, let alone versus other watch makers. However, what I couldn't find was one that warrants the delta between this watch and those, IMHO.
Now, before some Rolex-lover starts firing off angry replies, all I'm saying is that for ~$350, with a sapphire crystal and coming from a solid, well known maker - you can't go beat this price and you can't go wrong with this product.
One day, I'll step up to a Rolex or Omega. Then some century or so later, maybe I'll step into a Brietling, but between now and then, this gets the job done very, very well and I'll have this watch way out into that future, I'm sure...and even if not - I won't have to be talked down from jumping off a cliff because of what I paid for it.
Buying a watch is obviously very personal, and, while some might be happy to just have a brand name on their wrist to puff up their appearance, others do put a lot of time and thought into it, and I write this review with those folks in mind.
I've always liked watches, even as a lad, and I've always known Swiss Made is kind of the bench mark for traditional quality among those who know what's what when it comes to watches, so a fine Swiss Made watch was what I always wanted. No offense to amazing Japanese movements (or those from other nations) but for me, even though Citizen (and I have one, and love it) and Seiko and such do put out some truly world leading technology, even at very reasonable prices, I just wanted the heritage of Swiss Made.
It's kind of like a NIssan GTR is very stunning at doing what it does, but it is not a Lambo or a Ferrari, even if it can outperform such rivals. While one could say they have a Lambo or a Ferrari and not even need to say what model, because the brand name says enough already, with the Nissan one would be careful to say they have "the GTR" rather than just saying they are going to cruise down in the "Nissan." It's a subtle thing, and not meant to be materialistic or shallow, really, just an appreciation that some elements of heritage are more about the depth of history of a company, rather than it's current leading products. Even Lexus, renowned as a luxury car, struggled to find acceptance with the LFA which, while astonishing, just didn't possess a "supercar" pedigree.
With watches then, if one is so inclined to lean toward Swiss Made, nothing else really has the same allure, and such is what drives the popularity of such brands as Rolex, Omega, Patek, IWC, etc. But, given that many of the upper brands are out of the reach of the common man, price wise, what is one to do?
For me, I began with Invicta, back in the days when it was not a ridiculed brand, but actually was up and coming as potentially making a mark in the watch world as an "affordable" Swiss Made entry. Without much watch education at all, back then, I didn't even know that my first watch was a direct rip off of the Rolex Daytona, and that it wasn't even Swiss. All I knew is that it looked great, (and why wouldn't it, considering it was trying its best to imitate a Rolex!) worked brilliantly and I was able to afford it. I was so happy with it, in fact, that (as happens to many Invicta owners) I bought a second Invicta, and went on to buy a few more.
What Invicta did so well, for me, was fit my general three-fold guideline, of meeting Function, Satisfaction and Price. First, Function -- does a product do what it says? In the case of my Invictas they certainly did -- they kept great time, had features I wanted (chronograph, water resistance, day/date, etc), and were completely reliable. Second, Satisfaction, more about the intangibles of style and how I "feel" using a product (in this case how much I liked what was on my wrist) was where Invicta scored again -- I just didn't see ANY other watch maker with such exciting and varied designs, not even with watches for five or ten grand (which frankly all just looked the same, with very little design flair). And Price, factor three, well, again of course Invicta did great there, and once again, within its price bracket, no one else was providing what Invicta could, so my brand loyalty was pretty much locked in, and I didn't look much outside of Invicta offerings mostly because, even when I did, I just didn't find anything that came close, not even at twice or ten times the price.
In time, I did learn, the more I tried to educate myself about the world of watches, that Invicta was increasingly earning itself an awful reputation among average customers, and especially among "watch snobs" who seemed to hate the brand with an almost religious zeal. While at first, to me, it seemed a case of sour grapes, that Invicta brought Swiss Made masterpieces to the masses at affordable prices (and there does seem to be an element of that going on), I also saw more and more legitimate complaints (beyond watch snob issues of just ripping off designs and having ridiculously inflated MSRP's that are "discounted" for purchase) about horrible quality control combined with even worse customer service, and I was saddened to read many very frustrated reviews that Invicta didn't seem to care about addressing.
To me, the watch snob part of it, the accusation of Invicta trying to be something it wasn't, didn't really apply, since I never saw Invicta billed as a "high end" or "bragging rights" brand anyway, and also since I didn't buy my watches to impress anyone but me (meaning I didn't really care if a small group of uptight people were offended by the brand's existence). The other issues, however, began to worry me. I didn't buy my Invictas as any kind of investment for posterity, but the idea that they might fall apart at some point, with zero customer support for repair, was worrisome. True, I'd had no issues to date (and still haven't) and, overall, Invicta still gets more good reviews than not, but, given that I pretty much had all the Invictas I liked anyway, it did seem time to take what I'd learned about "better" watches and consider upgrading to something more respectable, not in the eyes of watch snobs, but just for me, to know that I was buying something really worth having.
As I say, I don't buy my watches for other people, I buy them for me. Comments are nice (and my Invictas always get a lot of attention) but ultimately it's about me liking what's on my wrist, and feeling like it was worth it. Invicta had thus far filled the bill because, around three hundred dollars, nothing else came close (and still doesn't in my humble opinion), but I recall one post on a watch forum where a person commented that, for the price of several Invictas, one could wait, save up, and instead buy something far superior. That stuck with me. It seemed I was being impetuous, buying with short-sightedness, collecting up a lesser brand instead of investing, long term, in something of true quality.
That's what led me to looking at Tissot, as an entry point into the world of refined watches. It's a fine brand, no doubt, and, as a member of the lauded Swatch Group (home of Omega, Breguet, Longines, etc.) it is very well-ranked. Perhaps equally important, it's easy to buy one! One of the problems of even looking for a better watch is where to go to find brands that are not carried as often in the States, but Tissot is marketed pretty readily on this side of the pond.
My main issue with Tissot, however, in looking to buy one, was just not seeing much I liked. I mean, yes, great brand and all that, stepping up to a sapphire crystal and, hopefully, solid quality control and service (although "luxe" brands, including Tissot, and even such higher end brands as Tag, also get their fair share of "Invicta-esque" negative reviews, reporting poor quality and lousy customer service) but nothing really stood out as an interesting or noteworthy design. And, at much higher prices than Invicta, what was I gaining? Would it tell time dramatically better? Last far longer? For twice the price, what was the benefit??
Such is what plagued me in considering to spend more on a watch -- at day's end, even if I pay five, ten, twenty or eighty grand for it, the watch still just tells the time, maybe has a chronograph or date function or whatever, so what does a more expensive watch bring me, beyond just stupid bragging among shallow snobs? Even if I had fifty grand, I wouldn't spend it on a watch that does nothing for me, so certainly I wasn't going to toss away even four hundred dollars just to say I had a "branded" watch on my wrist.
That led me away from Tissot, into more research, and I finally came across, and fell in love with, Certina, again from the Swatch Group, a brand not easy to find State-side (nearly impossible, in fact). I learned in that process that Tissot, though well-ranked, is very "entry level" in the eyes of many with discernment and experience (although, again, this is a very subjective and opinionated place, the world of watches) and a Certina, or even a Mido, was a much more respectable way to affordably enter the Swiss Made realms. Plus, because it was not something common in the States (like Tissot) a Certina had an air of added rarity to it. When I saw the designs, I was sold.
A long search eventually led me to a fantastic store, Olfert & Co., in Germany, and they deal with American buyers. Sweet! I settled on a classic DS First Ceramic, which is easily very dressy, or can be paired with a more casual ensemble, and, after a month of waiting on overseas shipping, it arrived, and I learned, first hand, the difference that quality makes. Compared to any watch I've ever owned, or even been lucky enough to handle, it is unparalleled in beauty and craftsmanship.
Now, I know, you're asking, where the heck is the Tissot review??? What's all this about Invicta and Certina!!!! Well, I needed to share that back story to make this review relevant.
For me, was this Tissot "worth" it....well, just for finding out what a Tissot is, compared to the supposedly much lower tier of Invicta, and the assumed to be at least somewhat higher tier of Certina, yes, it was worth it to buy this piece and get an education.
Price wise, it sits a solid one to two hundred dollars above Invictas (the ones which tend to be the Swiss Made models, and especially the Reserve Models, which have never disappointed me) and, for that, I don't think it's worth it. Unless you are just buying for the brand, the watch itself does not seem VASTLY "better" than my top Invicta favorites. In fact, it was a bit disappointing, especially after my experience with Certina. I expected much more from this Tissot.
It does have a heft of quality, but the bracelet in particular (rather narrow, for my taste) feels somewhat....cheap. The clasp seems ill-fitting, unnecessarily hard to open and close. The bezel feels clunky in rotation. The dial is much less "blue" in person, more of a washed out blue-gray, almost, with the three silver dials taking prominence. The chronograph works fine, but is a but boring in operation compared to models that give a bit of show about it, having a dial spin for the first thirty seconds or some such thing. The date window is small, not easy to see, and hands are also not easy to read, for the time, since they blend too much into the face. A poor lume (the glow in the dark stuff on the hands) makes reading the time at night pretty impossible. The relatively smaller case (40mm from side to side) is near to losing presence on the wrist, although the elements of polished shine on the bezel and bracelet do keep it from disappearing entirely.
In short, I'm surprised to say that almost any of my less costly Invictas do more than this Tissot. Yes, you're getting Swiss Made brand recognition for those who care to advertise, but for me that's not enough of a perk. To pay more, I expect to get more. I really wanted to be "wowed" by this watch, which I got in particular because it is a design I have long loved (the blue face, three silver dial thing) and, sadly, I just wasn't wowed much at all.
Now, I'm not saying it's a gruesome piece, not by ANY means. It's attractive in its own right, and I'm certainly keeping it, but I supposed I'm a bit spoiled by having watches that make more of a statement. As a Tissot, of course this makes a statement of its own, but it's really a matter of deciding if such is a statement you want to make, for the asking price.
So, if you're looking to step into the world of higher end Swiss Made watches, my humble advice is to pass on Tissot, or at least shop around before rushing into a purchase. Handle some options, in person, if you can. If you're shopping online, well, since you're already up around the four hundred dollar mark, with this entry level piece, add a bit more to the pot and look at offerings from Mido, for example, for a dressier look, or for sure please give Certina a look, which is my new favorite brand on earth. The ones on Amazon are not that great -- go online to look at various models, or just go to the Olfert & Co. website (www.olfert-co.de) to see a much better selection of the Certina line (with better pics). You'll see the prices are very much in line with what Tissot is asking, but, overall, you're getting a watch much more "worth" these higher asking prices, at least in my opinion, based on experience.
Comparatively, every aspect of my Certina far outshines this Tissot -- by a wide margin. Just the nearly liquid flexibility of the bracelet is a night and day difference, compared to the cheaper feeling Tissot. The movement of the bezel, the strength and duration of the lume, the feature set (my DS First Ceramic has a 12 hour chronograph, for example), and just all elements of craftsmanship are far superior. Where the Tissot makes me scratch my head and say, "So...this is Swiss Made?" the Certina makes me sit back and say "Wow, so THIS is Swiss Made!"
So, to conclude, I think, for four hundred, no, this Tissot is not "worth" it, and, while it might cause watch snobs to feint, to say such blasphemy, an Invicta would be, I think, the better choice, in terms of options, styles, features and of course price, if you're just looking for a watch you can love at a price that's not too much to ask.
If, on the other hand, you just really want a "legitimate" Swiss Made watch in your collection and four hundred is the top of your budget, you could get this watch and be pleased, but I suspect if you're up around the four hundred mark, seeking options, you likely could stretch a bit more, to aim for a Certina, which is a much more satisfying, exclusive and prestigious entry into Swiss Made watches, or so has been the case, for me. If this Tissot had been my "first" Swiss Made piece, moving up from Invicta, I'd have been disappointed, and wondered, frankly, if higher priced (but still somewhat affordable, as in less than a grand or so) pieces are just a bunch of overblown hype, but thankfully, my Certina arrived before this one did, and I was able to realize, "Oh! So that's what all the fuss is about!"
I still don't see that I'd ever pay more than maybe $1,500 at the absolute MOST for any watch (like I say, at some level, you're obviously just paying for brand brags, and aren't getting any "more" watch for your dollar) but I do see now, for sure, that, with the right models of the right brands, the adage of getting what you pay for certainly applies. While I don't think this particular watch supports that maxim -- since paying more, in this case, didn't get me more, and maybe even got me less than a less expensive offering -- I do see now that there is a bigger and brighter world of watch wonders to be found, but also I see that it takes more than just brand hopping to reach it.
In other words, what I learned, and what I share here is that, if you're just venturing into this complex world, wanting to go better than Invicta or another "sub" brand, please considering going better than Tissot, as well. If it's time to upgrade, definitely make the upgrade worth it!
Function, three out of five.
Satisfaction, three out of five.
Price, two out of five.
Overall score, 8 out of 15.