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Twenty-Four Italian Songs and Arias of the 17th and 18th Century: Medium High Voice (Italien) Broché – 30 septembre 2015

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très beaux airs de compositeurs connus en majorité italiens pour sopranos
pour développer la voix agréablement sans difficultés majeures
avec les conseils d un professeur de chant ou pas
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C'est une partition comportant des airs de travail pour les "futures" sopranes, airs connus et reconnus.
très bon article qui me satisfait parfaitement
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HASH(0x92d5d1ec) étoiles sur 5 5 Starts But With a Qualification 11 mars 2001
Par RdgJr near NYC - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
I own both this 26 song book/Cd as well as the 24 song book/CD from John Keene and Schirmer. I use the John Paton 26 song version in order to read the excellent one page introductions it provides for each song.. However my singing teacher feels that the piano accompaniments in the Paton book are pretentious, and he prefers the piano accompaniments in the Keene/Schirmer book. So, I use the CD and music from the Schirmer book but I do my research via the Paton book. The Keen/Schirmer book has a lot less melody ornamentation than the John Paton book. In my opinion, which is the opinion of a beginner, the ornamentation added to the melody in the John Paton book is excessive and is also confusing in that he never explains how to reconcile all the little notes he added, to the larger font melody notes that often seem to be at odds with the tinier notes. What is deeply, desperately need, I strongly feel, is a recording of tenors, sopranos, and baritones actually singing all 24 (or 26) of these songs! Please, if anyone knows of the existance of such as recording, post it in a user review. It would be a tremendous help. Also, note that in both the Keene/Schirmer version and the John Paton version, the piano accompaniment often does not include the melody. So, it can be "dicey" when trying to learn one of the songs to figure out the melody if the only resource available is the accompanying CD. Personally, I record the melodies into a sequencer program on my PC via a midi attached digital keyboard, but the average singer is not likely to have the technical expertise to do that. It would have been very helpful if the accompanying CD's had recorded each song twice, the second time with the melody superimposed on top of the accompaniment. My singer teacher tells me that these 24 (or 26) songs are the "bible" among singing students. Thus, a singing student really has no choice but to buy at least one of these two editions.
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HASH(0x938783b4) étoiles sur 5 An absolute essential for the serious voice student 21 août 2001
Par Un client - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
My voice teacher insisted I purchase this book and I am glad I did. We use it each week for development work, vocalizing, and learning new pieces. These songs are incredibly useful for working out the kinks you may have with other pieces, as well as just being a pleasure to sing for their natural beauty. I have a second copy of the book with the CD; I agree with the other reviewers that the CD accompaniment is way too fast. I have Cecilia Bartoli's CD, referenced by another reviewer, also and I have used it to help learn or refine some of these songs. Even so, the accompaniment CD has been useful for me in practice since I can't accompany myself. If you have a choice, I would get the version with the accompaniment CD. If you don't like the CD, you're not out more than a couple of extra dollars over what you pay for just the book.
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HASH(0x916fb60c) étoiles sur 5 a good book for middle and high school 6 novembre 2013
Par M. Shrewsbury - Publié sur Amazon.com
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This is a great book for younger and older singers. The pieces are easily read (as I get older this becomes more important to me!) and although the recorded accompaniments aren't always helpful to the vocal line it certainly helps to have them for performances. It's much less expensive than paying an accompanist. I use this book for ages 9 and older. The one thing that would make it better would be if the songs were recorded once with the vocal line and again with just the accompaniment. Here is the song list: Alma del core; Amarilli, mia bella; Caro mio ben; Che Fiero Costume; Come Raggio Di Sol; Danza, Danza, Fanciulla Gentile; Gia Il Sole Dal Gange; Il Mio Bel Foco; Lasciatemi Morire; Le Violette; Nel Cor Piu Non Sento; Nina; Non Posso Disperar; O Cessate Di Piagarmi; O Del Mio Dolce Ardor; Per La Gloria D'Adorarvi; Pieta, Signore; Pur Dicesti, O Bocca Bella; Se Florindo E Fedele; Se Tu M'ami, Se Sospiri; Sebben, crudele; Tu lo sai; Vergin, Tutto Amor; Vittoria, Mio Core.
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HASH(0x91648ca8) étoiles sur 5 Very good for vocal studies 18 novembre 1999
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Format: Broché
This is the quintessencial collection for vocal studies for the medium high voice. A real tradition.
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HASH(0x914b57bc) étoiles sur 5 The "24" good for teaching only, dubious history, questionable material 19 novembre 2005
Par R. Scott White - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: Broché
Although the music in this book has been used "ad infinitum" since the late 1880's, even the most rudimentary scholarship has shown that the editing (and in at least one case, the composition) of these pieces is not to be trusted.

The editor of "The 24" and its sister two volume set "Anthology of Italian song" is Alessandro Parisotti. Mr. Parisotti was a publisher who was suspiciously eager to have his own edited works published. This "24" has its share of dubious songs. Three quick examples:

1.) "Se Tu M'ami" is attributed to Pergolesi, but the style is laughably un-Pergolesi-like. No original of the score exists before Mr. Parisotti "discovered" it in time to publish the original 24. It is quite likely that Parisotti is the composer.

2.) "Il mio bel foco" is fine until the last 11 measures, where once again there is no original of what's in "the 24". It appears that Parisotti sliced, diced and re-composed the last 11 measures including French sixth chords, and a piano accompaniment which is distinctly not from the Baroque era.

3.) "Danza Danza fanciulla..." does have an original; it's all figured bass (no treble accompaniment written at all.) It's OK to place your own accompaniment there, but Parisotti's offbeat (and unnecessarily difficult) accompaniment does not follow the typical contrapuntal style of the Baroque period at all.

There are several other problems with the realizations of these 24 pieces - too many to go into here, but worth exploring in research.

That being said, Parisotti does get credit for at least noticing these pieces and arranging them for student voices (which may or may not have been his intent). The current edition is ridiculously cheap - which actually reflects the rather large (and much improved) collections of Baroque Italian songs that are out there.

It still (for some reason) remains a staple of too many voice teachers out there (possibly because they are "comfortable" in some way), so accompanists should continue to purchase it due to the large number of voice students and performers who (unfortunately) rely on it.

It probably deserves two stars, but because it's receiving way too many five star reviews, I'm giving it just one.
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