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  • Interprète: Chor der Bayreuther Festspiele, Gwyneth Jones, Harald Ek, Hermin Esser, Karl Ridderbusch
  • Orchestre: Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele
  • Chef d'orchestre: Karl Böhm
  • Compositeur: Richard Wagner
  • CD (30 juin 2007)
  • Nombre de disques: 2
  • Label: Deutsche Grammophon
  • ASIN : B000P6RAW0
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Disque : 1

  1. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - overture
  2. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - 1. introduktion. "hojoje! hojoje! hallojo! ho!"
  3. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - kein zweifel! sieben meilen fort!
  4. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - mit gewitter und sturm aus fernem meer
  5. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - 3. szene, duett und chor. "he! holla! steuermann"
  6. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - mit gewitter und sturm aus fernem meer
  7. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - introduction
  8. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - johohoe! traft ihr das schiff im meere an
  9. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - 5. duett. "bleib, senta! bleib nur einen augenblick!"
  10. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - mein herz, voll treue bis zum sterben
  11. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - 1. introduktion. "hojoje! hojoje! hallojo! ho!"
  12. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - "die frist ist um" - "ew'ge vernichtung, nimm uns auf" (holländer, mannschaft des holländers)
  13. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - 3. szene, duett und chor. "he! holla! steuermann"
  14. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - durch sturm und bösen wind verschlagen
  15. Le vaisseau fantôme acte I - südwind! südwind!
  16. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - 4. szene, lied und ballade. "summ und brumm, du gutes rädchen"
  17. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - hilf, himmel! senta! senta! (mädchen, mary, erik, senta)
  18. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - 5. duett. "bleib, senta! bleib nur einen augenblick!"

Disque : 2

  1. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - 6. finale. "mein kind, du siehst mich auf der schwelle"
  2. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - wirst du des vaters wahl nicht schelten?
  3. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - entr'acte
  4. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - 7. szene und chor. "steuermann, laß die wacht!"
  5. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - johohoe! johohoe! hoe! hoe!
  6. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - "willst jenen tag du nicht dich mehr entsinnen" (kavatine)
  7. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - verloren! ach, verloren!
  8. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - fühlst du den schmerz (senta, erik)
  9. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - auf hohem felsen lag ich träumend
  10. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - 6. finale. "mein kind, du siehst mich auf der schwelle"
  11. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - mögst du, mein kind, den fremden mann willkommen heißen
  12. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - wie aus der ferne längst vergang'ner zeiten
  13. Le vaisseau fantôme acte II - verzeiht! mein volk hält draußen sich nicht mehr
  14. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - 7. szene und chor. "steuermann, laß die wacht!"
  15. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - 8. finale. "was mußt ich hören"
  16. Le vaisseau fantôme acte III - erfahre das geschick, vor dem ich dich bewahr' (der holländer, erik, senta, daland, mary, chor)

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Par jfe33 le 1 avril 2014
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le plus: direction vibrante de Böhm en direct de Bayreuth
le moins: une senta (la pourtant grande Jones) bien crillarde!
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HASH(0x99f2ae34) étoiles sur 5 Great Bargain, Good Performance 9 avril 2008
Par Steven Muni - Publié sur Amazon.com
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There are many wonderful versions of Wagner's Flying Dutchman available, and the competition is pretty strong. This recording is an excellent memorial to the late baritone Thomas Stewart, an American who performed primarily in Europe, being a long-time member of the Staatsoper in Berlin.
Although he may not have the instrument of some well-known Dutchmen like George London or Simon Estes, Stewart is an excellent singing actor and clearly portrays the loneliness and anguish of the title character. But he has to face tough competition, including the wrenching pain of Hermann Uhde or the gritty realism of Theo Adams, not to mention the sumptous voices of London or Estes.

His Senta is Dame Gwyneth Jones, a great English dramatic soprano of the 60s and 70s. Jones is in good but not great form here--plenty of emotion and her famous vocal wobble only a little in evidence. Again, she is up against some tough competition, like the incredible Leonie Rysanek or the ferociously dramatic Astrid Varnay or the searingly passionate Anja Silja, perhaps the best Senta of them all.

Karl Ridderbusch sings an excellent Daland, and the smaller roles are adequate if not memorable. Kubelik paces the orchestra well in this live 1971 performance at Bayreuth.

My personal favorite studio recording is the Klemperer version, with Adam and Silja. Adam is not everyone's favorite Dutchman, but I like the grainy texture of his voice in this role. And Silja is, I think, the finest recorded Senta. My favorite live recording is the 1955 Bayreuth performance conducted by Joseph Keilberth, (a badly under-appreciated Wagnerian conductor), and starring Hermann Uhde and Astrid Varnay. Despite the sometimes mushy mono sound, Uhde's and Varnay's performances simply haven't been surpassed for their intensity. But this version is quite good and for the price you can't beat it.
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HASH(0x9a08a228) étoiles sur 5 A first-rate live Dutchman from 1971 23 septembre 2007
Par Santa Fe Listener - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
Although there are stretches of immature writing, The Flying Dutchman has held the stage almost since its inception because of the taut story, intense emotions, and flashes of genius on Wagner's part. All of that is splendidly captured in this live performance from Bayreuth in 1971. Karl Bohm displays expert command of dramatic pacing, and the sonics (from Radio Bavaria, I believe) are clear. Bohm thumps too hard in the final scene and goes slack in Senta's Ballad, yet on the whole he justifies his reputation as an opera pit meastro.

But this set's greatest virtues are the two leads. Thomas Stewart's reputation has been revived after a period of some neglect. He had the most distinguished Bayreuth career of any American, and I've long admired his Wotan for Karajan in Die Walkure (DG) and on a slightly lower level, his virile Hans Sachs for Kubelik (on several labels, including Myto). Here he makes for an acute, intelligent Dutchman with a splendidly focused bass-baritone in place of the all too prevalent woly bass. Stewart isn't the last word in suffering or haunted inwardness, but he far surpasses Theo Adam in Klemperer's otherwise glorious version (EMI) and sounds more suitably Germanic than Jose Van Dam for Karajan (EMI).

Stewart is paired with the young Gwyneth Jones as Senta, and I msut say she sounds utterly convincing. The voice, forceful but feminine, was in prime shape in 1971, and her dramatic instincts (always Jonnes's strength even after her voice frayed) hold your attentin from beginning to end (I dont hold it against her that Bohm loses impetus in the Ballad). Sheerly as a dramatic singing cast, this one is hard to beat. Karl Ridderbusch adds considerably as an authoritative Deland who doesn't bluster or mug.

All in all, I have no hesitation placing this budget reissue near the top of my list for this opera.
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HASH(0x9a088708) étoiles sur 5 Very fine Holländer in One act version. 12 mai 2014
Par pekinman - Publié sur Amazon.com
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First off, DG was making the best recordings at Bayreuth in the 1960s and early 1970s. This Holländer along with Böhm's legendary Tristan from 1967, and Boulez's Parsifal from 1970 were the only 3 DG recordings.
Philips was the main recording agent on the Green Hill at the time, and excellent as they were, DG were better.

The Böhm Tristan and Boulez Parsifal are justly famous and should be in every Wagnerian collection and even the collections of discerning opera-philes who want only the VERY best recordings in their libraries.

This Holländer is, I think, worthy of the same treatment. It isn't The Best but it is a wonderful capture of the Bayreuth acoustic. No fancy engineering, just a couple of mikes properly placed and that does the trick.

Böhm's conducting is along the lines of Clemens Krauss, rather quick and vehement and very dramatic. The North Sea surges and blows like few others on record. This is one of the more magnificent festival orchestras in my experience of recordings from this venue. DGG's sound is immediate and in-your-face but not harsh, as it can be with this company, with a fine bass depth and tops that shine without shrillness.

Thomas Stewart is a very romantic Holländer, lighter-voiced than usual but still having a hefty lower range, and a high range that approaches helden-tenorishness. Senta, is portrayed with great depth of expression by Gwyneth Jones who is completely steady, free of wobble. This is an fine document of the inherent beauty of her voice before it became more or less a factory whistle in later years. The thing with Gwyneth is that her intense and powerful voice often sounds like its wobbling when it is simply in high throttle and emitting syne waves at a high pitch and fast velocity. I've heard her in hyper-drive live in the house when the entire upper balcony in the San Francisco Opera were plugging their ears with their fingers, experiencing temporary deafness after her final lines in Die Walküre in 1985. Never to be forgotten. The Russian consulate staff was sitting near me and even they were impressed... da..da! God bless Gwyneth. She may not be ideal, as was Anja Silja for Sawallisch in 1962, also from Bayreuth (THE recording if you want a live one never to be repeated again), but she was a treasure. Karl Ridderbusch is a superb Daland, right up there with Karajan's fatherly Kurt Moll, my favorite in this part.

The supporting cast is very good, though Hermin Esser's Erik starts off wretchedly in his Cavatina but steadies down quickly after he has warmed up. This one-act version, I think the best version of this opera, more intense, like Das Rheingold, in one fell swoop, includes the much-loved 'Redemption' motive at the very end which should reassure those who hate this opera without it.

The Sawallisch from 1962 with Franz Crass and Anja Silja is still The One. But you can't have just one of any of Wagner's titles.
HASH(0x9a0883fc) étoiles sur 5 Yes, but... 11 novembre 2010
Par P. Ho - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
This 1971 recording from the Bayreuth Festival under the direction of Karl Bohm is one of the performances that I turn to in appreciation of Bohm's Wagner recordings. I have a three other "Hollanders" also recorded from Bayreuth (55, 59, 82) which are just as exciting but overall more consistently sung than this particular one (I gave away the Antol Dorati studio version with Rysanek and London which I could never get excited about).

First off Karl Bohm's conducting is simply wonderful. Filled with almost crude energy that works extremely well with such a relatively youthful work, Bohm's conducting never flags while the recording sounds much like Bohm's own recordings of the Ring and Tristan also from Bayreuth. The other hero in this performances is of course Thomas Stewart as the stalward Dutchman, who for some reason is underrated mostly due to one knit picky reason or another--it's a live performance for goodness sake! Warts and all! He sings most beautifully while coping with his strenuous music quite admirably. He gets wonderful support from Karl Ridderbusch's mellifluous Daland; it certainly takes a singer of Ridderbusch's caliber from making Daland become a bore.

Speaking of warts and all, then there's the rest of the cast. Specifically we have the one and only Gwyneth Jones as Senta. As she is caught here one can hear the beauty and radiance for such a romantic heroine, but one also hears that vibrato that widens into a wobble at the top and serious tuning problems in the middle range. And yet after all these years I have learned to live with her taking the positive with the technical faults. One either can take it or leave it. The Erik and Steuremann are tolerable, and Mary suitably ancient.

Certainly not a first choice but still very exciting and one that I turn to more often than not. As a first choice however personally I'd recommend the 1982 "Hollander" from Bayreuth with Estes and Belslev. But if those names don't excite you then check out the Bayreuth 1955 with Varnay and Uhde or the 1959 with Rysanek and London. But they are in mono. With these available I have had no reason to check the other more recent ones.
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HASH(0x9a088a74) étoiles sur 5 Disappointing; other recordings far surpass this 25 mars 2008
Par Ralph Moore - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD Achat vérifié
I am a great fan of Thomas Stewart, which is why I bought this recording; I think his Wotan for Karajan and his Sachs for Kubelik are true monuments to his lovely voice and interpretative skills, but this "Holländer" simply does not hit the spot. I wondered why I was not previously aware of it and having played it, I can see why it is somewhat disregarded compared with other, classic accounts such as the live 1955 Bayreuth recording conducted by Keilberth. Sure, with Keilberth, you have to put up with relatively congested mono sound but it is now available in stereo on the Pristine label; they used the Eclipse stereo issued in the 70's as the basis for their own re-mastering which is well worth the extra cost. However, even in mono the intensity of the drama of the piece really emerges vividly when you have the voices and acting skills of two such performers as Uhde (who died prematurely) and Varnay.

Stewart never really gets under the skin of the tormented Dutchman and barely hits his stride vocally - maybe Bohm's rather rushed conducting harried him. As for Gwyneth Jones, that infamous wobble seems to be more prominent here than it is in her superlative Ortrud in Kubelik's studio "Lohengrin", recorded around the same time as this live performance; it is too obtrusive to allow me to admire her customary commitment to characterisation. Ridderbusch is his usual smooth, rotund self (the voice, not the man), Harald Ek as the Steersman is very good, displaying a fine, robust voice and really differentiating amongst the three verses of his ballad before succumbing to sleep - but a tenor called Hermin Esser, the Erik, is truly awful.

As a whole, this is not really worth purchasing when, if you want stereo, you can hear either the Pristine issue mentioned above or the splendid London and Rysanek in Dorati's 1961 set or even Karajan's later, troubled version with the noble, intense Van Dam and the best Daland in Kurt Moll - but Vejzovic is a bit of a trial compared with Silja and Varnay and Karajan too low-key and "symphonic". (I personally do not rate Theo Adam's Dutchman in Klemperer's EMI set, but others seem to like it very much; for me, he hasn't enough voice.)

So I reluctantly give this the thumbs down - I wanted to like it - and would steer you towards any of the other three sets I mention above.
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