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  • Chef d'orchestre: Carlo Maria Giulini
  • Compositeur: Giuseppe Verdi
  • CD (12 mars 2012)
  • Nombre de disques: 2
  • Format : Compilation
  • Label: Parlophone
  • ASIN : B005FVFWHU
  • Autres versions : CD
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Disque : 1

  1. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II seq - Nicolai Gedda
  2. Te deumquattro pezzi sacri remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  3. Stabat materquattro pezzi sacri remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  4. Ave mariaquattro pezzi sacri remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  5. Libera memessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  6. Requiem aeternammessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  7. Libera me dies iraemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  8. Lux aeternamessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  9. Agnus deimessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  10. Sanctusmessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  11. Hostias et precesmessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  12. Domine jesu christemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  13. Confutatis maledictismessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  14. Ingemiscomessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  15. Recordaremessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  16. Rex tremendaemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  17. Quid sum misermessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  18. Tuba mirummessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  19. Kyrie eleisonmessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  20. Requiem aeternammessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  21. Dies iraemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  22. Liber scriptus dies iraemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  23. Requiem aeternammessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  24. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  25. Dies iraemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  26. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  27. Liber scriptus dies iraemessa da requiem remast - Philharmonia Orchestra
  28. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  29. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  30. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  31. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  32. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  33. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster II - sequen - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  34. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster III - offer - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  35. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster III - offer - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  36. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster IV - sanctu - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  37. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster V - agnus d - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf

Disque : 2

  1. Quattro pezzi sacri 1997 digital remaster laudi al - Dame Janet Baker
  2. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster VII - liber - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  3. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster VII - liber - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  4. Messa da requiem 1997 digital remaster VII - liber - Elisabeth Schwarzkopf
  5. Quattro pezzi sacri 1997 remastered version ave ma - Dame Janet Baker
  6. Quattro pezzi sacri 1997 remastered version stabat - Dame Janet Baker
  7. Quattro pezzi sacri 1997 remastered version laudi - Dame Janet Baker
  8. Quattro pezzi sacri 1997 remastered version te deu - Dame Janet Baker

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Par claude toon TOP 500 COMMENTATEURSMEMBRE DU CLUB DES TESTEURS le 2 avril 2012
Format: CD
Nouvelle édition de ce Requiem de Verdi par Giulini capté en studio en 1962 dans une collection très économique "Master Tape". Innovation : le texte se trouve sur le CD2 sous forme d'un fichier PDF. No comment.

Dans la précédente édition "Legendary", de nombreux commentateurs avaient déploré la mauvaise qualité du son sur les forte. On se débarrasse du sujet épineux tout de suite. Et hélas, on regrettera encore la dureté et le flottement du Chœur dans le Dies Irae, alors que le dialogue des bois qui suit est d'une transparence rare. Dommage, mais définitif a priori. Cela dit l'enregistrement reste globalement très bon (voix féminine sans pincement).

Pour l'interprétation, je risque fort de répéter que cette version reste un modèle de tension, "de fatum". Tous les atouts étaient réunis à l'époque pour réussir une gravure illustre, et 50 ans plus tard, la magie demeure.
Un quatuor vocal de rêve : Nicolai Gedda dans l'ingemisco demeure tellement persuasif, soutenu par un orchestre d'un équilibre et d'une clarté absolus. Nicolai Ghiaurov se veut poignant mais sans affectation quelques mesures plus loin dans le Confutatis. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf et Christa Ludwig nous étreignent entre l'aigu le plus pur (idéal pour cette œuvre tournant le dos aux effets lyriques) et la gravité empreinte d'humanité de la seconde.
Giulini avec ce Philharmonia au sommet de ses moyens, un orchestre choyé par les meilleures baguettes du temps, fluidifie l'orchestration verdienne.
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Tout est réuni bien sûr pour faire de cette version un must; les solistes au plus haut de leur art , l'orchestre, le choeur et surtout la direction inspirée, fervente, lyrique au possible en même temps qu'empreinte de religiosité de Giulini. Un pur moment d'émotion bouleversant et unique. Une version a avoir obligatoirement dans sa discothèque.
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On est obligé de monter le volume pour entendre les parties de l'oeuvre en nuance "piano" et de baisser le volume pour ne pas être agressé dans les parties "forte".
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HASH(0x9995eea0) étoiles sur 5 Reply for Laszlo 14 juin 2012
Par Richard Frankel - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Laszlo wanted to know if this is a new remastering. It isn't. It's the same 1997 remastering used for the last few reissues. I know that remastering, and it's quite decent, although better results could be achieved today: more slam, more transparency, more treble sweetness. But I've read that the incipient overload that can be detected on choral fortissimos is on the master tape, so I'm not sure how much better the sound can ever be. For me, it's much more than good enough not to get in the way of the performance.

And this has always a condender for "Best Performance Available", despite its two main limitations: all four soloists are major artists, but none sounds completely, idiomatically Italianate. Giulini's conducting is profoundly insightful and poetic, but is at certain points just a bit less fiery than one might wish. Still, no other performance on record is clearly superior in all respects to this one. At the very least, it's a good place to start.

(By the way, the remastering date is printed at the bottom of the back cover. IT's TINY in amazon's photo, but readable.)
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HASH(0x9995eef4) étoiles sur 5 One of the best Requiems, no doubt, but I need your feedback 25 janvier 2012
Par Laszlo - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
EMI knows very well that they can repackage this item, as well as other true great recordings in their vaults, every five years or so and keep selling it. That's called Marketing and it is their prerogative.
If you already have its previous release, as I do, only a true improvement then, can make me buy this again. And Giulini's EMI Requiem, in my view, always needed "better sound". Whether that was attained here, I do not know, but I have seen EMI doing wonders with some of those "Great Recordings of the Century", a series I truly liked.
EMI is releasing this new/old series with the caption 'Original recording remastered'. Remastered when? Is there any difference here, or is it just a repackaging of the last one? Truth to tell, EMI has never been very generous with investing on remastered sound.
So, I am leaving the question open for those of you whose opinion I respect on this regard, without having to look for it on BBC Magazine or GRAMOPHONE. With your "Comments"-response, this quasi-review can be considered fulfilled, and, if it is a true improved remastered sound, I should can consider buying.
Thanks in advance.
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HASH(0x9b582348) étoiles sur 5 No longer the standard recommendation - if it ever was 2 juin 2014
Par Ralph Moore - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
To challenge the much vaunted supremacy of this recording in the face of legion five-star reviewers is asking for trouble but I'll do it anyway, because I genuinely believe that this is by no means the paragon it has been held up to be.

My credentials for saying so are merely my own pair of ears, forty years of listening to this piece live and in recordings and as a collector of thirty-plus versions, most of which I find superior to this one.

First of all, the recording has peaking and overloading problems inherent in the master tape which will not be addressed by another re-mastering; the 1997 engineering is probably the best that can be achieved. It doesn't bother me much but it's there and will be a more important factor for audiophiles.

Secondly, it may be that Giulini takes the more spiritual approach that some require in this work but for me that results in some loss of excitement and tension in what is undeniably a supremely operatic and histrionic treatment of liturgical music. Again, this is not key but other versions are simply more involving and moving.

Thirdly, the soloists are neither uniformly good not necessarily aptly voiced for their roles. I instantly exempt Ghiaurov from that observation; he is simply immense, flawless and a model for all subsequent interpreters. Ludwig is very good but sometimes shrieks and sounds far less comfortable than in her later recording with Karajan; she blends far less well with Schwarzkopf than they did in the Böhm "Così" from around the same time. The real trouble starts with Schwarzkopf and Gedda; she positively screams in the "Salva Me" of the quartet in the "Dies Irae" and too often mews and swoons where solid tone is needed. She is too often tremulous and short of breath; she never was a Verdi soprano, although she raises her game for the finale and her floated B flat is good. Neither is Gedda a Verdi tenor; his tone is too plaintive and bleating although he sounds best in the Offertorio - which is taken rather sedately - and gets full marks for his trill.

It is true that the Philharmonia Chorus and Orchestra, Pitz-trained and Klemperer perfected respectively, are superb and Giulini's grip on proceedings is sound within the constraints of his more refined and restrained vision of how the music should go.

So while I acknowledge its place in the hearts of many as the recording which introduced to them to this astonishing work, I would urge newcomers to sample better versions by Reiner, Karajan, Bernstein, Muti, Solti et al - and even Plasson, my latest discovery. But of course, one kicks a sacred cow at one's peril...

The bonus with Janet Baker in the "Quattro Pezzi Sacri" is well worth having, even if they are not amongst Verdi's most inspired compositions.
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HASH(0x9b582714) étoiles sur 5 Boring 14 janvier 2015
Par pekinman - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
Giulini's first recording of Verdi's Requiem was long considered the standard by which every other recording was measured, and indeed, all recordings previous to it. It was my first Verdi Requiem recording. Now I can understand why I did not 'take' to this piece for many years.

This is one of those sets that has not lived up to its p.r. Giulini's conducting is quite fine, his orchestra is superb but the other factors fall short of my favorite recordings. The soloists were all great singers but there are problems here. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf's beautiful light lyric soprano is completely ill-suited for this music. She has to push beyond loveliness to be heard at times, almost shrieking at one point. Her husband, Walter Legge, was the producer of this set so we know why she got the job. Nicolai Gedda was also a great singer but he was not a natural voice for the Italian repertory. He lacks 'squillo'. He has the requisite volume and most certainly the intelligence and musicality to pull it off very well, but he doesn't hit the mark as far as emotional impact or vocal thrill goes. Christa Ludwig had what it took to be a fine mezzo in this work, but she sounds so polite here. Very German, no chances taken. Only Nicolai Ghiaurov is idiomatic among the soloists, yet even he sounds a little muted. His legato is beautiful as is the voice but, for instance, his 'Confutatis' only hints at what he might have done under more dynamic and less controlled circumstances.

I always felt that Walter Legge was too much the anal control freak in all those famous early EMI recordings under his production guidance. There is something constrained about this Verdi Requiem. Some will like it because the overtly dramatic elements are reigned in making this what they like to call a more 'spiritual' performance. It certainly is nothing like Muti's first two recordings, or Fricsay or Serafin and others who unleash the forces of hell where they should be unleashed. That's not to say there aren't moments in Giulini's recording that don't do that, it's just that when they do they are still very polished and correct. Never does this recording skirt the precipice of hysteria that is inherent in parts of this work, notably in Sequenza, Rex Tremendae and Libera Me.

Schwarzkopf's Libera Me is pretty much a flop. It's like listening to Woglinde sing Brünnhilde's Immolation Scene. She did not have the means to encompass the power to project the terror of the text and music. She had 'squillo' but it was two sizes too small for what is called for in this tremendous part.

The Philharmonia Chorus sings as if they were overly conscious of their 'Star' status on the London scene. They, along with the Philharmonia Orchestra, were a Legge invention, and they were splendid, usually. They sing magnificently here but sound academic and over-rehearsed. They sound like they were singing Mendelssohn's 'Elijah' or Handel's 'Messiah'. There is not a note out of place or out of tune, but the effect is sterile and churchy.

The sound on this EMI set is full and clear, plush without being over-stuffed. But there is a 'covered' aura over the proceedings, as if it were recorded at too low a level. It has impact but the top decibels sound over-loaded at times.

I cannot recommend this Giulini recording under the strangulating grip of Walter Legge's musical vision. It is as constipated and airless sounding as all those Schwarzkopf/Fischer-Dieskau Lieder-in-aspic recordings he produced at about the same time.
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HASH(0x9b5827f8) étoiles sur 5 Poor Recording 23 mai 2013
Par Arnar - Publié sur Amazon.com
Format: CD
There are significant issues with the sound. Despite efforts to fix the distortion heard in the most powerful parts of the work it has not yielded much improvement. The sound is also still rather constricted which doesn't help either.

Moreover, I think Giulini's devout approach does not suit Verdi. Indeed I feel that this work is more secular than it is set out to be. Therefore, I prefer the more secular opproach of Reiner who probably felt the same, recognising at the same time that Verdi was an atheist.

Overall: This suffers from poor sonics and is too devout an approach to Verdi's operatic requiem.

Instead, for instance, buy the one with Mehta, Caballé, Domingo et al. It sounds so much better in every way.
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